whorlnut Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 ...and this is what we get. Yeah, yeah, yeah...we are missing Tre and Milano. I get that. But Milano was a fifth rounder and Tre has been overall underwhelming this season. Either way...Edmunds looks completely terrible, Oliver is almost non-existent, and Epenesa looks completely lost. It’s beyond pathetic. There really isn’t an excuse with all the premium picks spent on making this a premium unit. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Not sure how they fix it. Major issues with the front seven. DE (Murphy and Hughes) are not getting it done. Continue to give up contain and cannot get to the QB. Interior gets consistently pushed back. LB’s continue to be out of place. Edmunds is not progressing for a 3rd year starter. We need a thumper at LB and an edge rusher who is a difference maker which isn’t going to happen this season. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davspo Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 McDermott needs to own it and take over defensive play calling 16 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Our defense probably liked it better when we were playing trash QBs last season 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bills6969 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I’m more disappointed in the FA signings— Addison, Jefferson, Butler. These guys have done diddly- poo. We have 0 pass rush. One of these guys was supposed to replace the production of Shaw Lawson. Lol. 4 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Edmunds and Oliver are not living up to their 1st round statuses. That is very true 16 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain_Quint Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Hughes looked lost today. They hit the nail on the head when talking about setting the edge. I dont know if it was him or someone else but it was a huge problem all game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, davspo said: McDermott needs to own it and take over defensive play calling Yep. Frazier has been so bad this year. But In saying that, they don’t have a lot of talent outside of their secondary which have been under forming to begin with Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, bills6969 said: I’m more disappointed in the FA signings— Addison, Jefferson, Butler. These guys have done diddly- poo. We have 0 pass rush. One of these guys was supposed to replace the production of Shaw Lawson. Lol. Addison and Jefferson have been fine 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Frazier may get fired if this keeps up a few more games 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, Captain_Quint said: Hughes looked lost today. They hit the nail on the head when talking about setting the edge. I dont know if it was him or someone else but it was a huge problem all game. I’m waiting for someone’s weekly post about his matchup win rate 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DollaBills Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Is Beane still a wizard? I think so. Unlike whaley and such his QB prospect is looking way more promising Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChanticleerBillsFan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 We have one of the highest paid defensive lines in the league and do not stop the run or pressure well..... 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 I am a huge Beane fan. I think McDermott sold Brandon on the belief they didn’t need a CB early in the draft. We are seeing otherwise. 1 minute ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: We have one of the highest paid defensive lines in the league and do not stop the run or pressure well..... What does that tell you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Is Beane still a wizard? he puts on his wizard hat... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It wasn't the d that lost 14 points early. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Call_Of_Ktulu Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Milano gets guys into position and we really needed White tonight. I thought our offense would put up at least 30+ tonight. Trent Murphy needs to be gone. Epenesa needs to be starting out there, he is one player that can push the pocket or go outside. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Virgil said: Addison and Jefferson have been fine They really weren't today. They were not setting the edge. Rushing inside all night and allowing the runners to get around the edge. 3 minutes ago, Steve Billieve said: It wasn't the d that lost 14 points early. They can take the blame for the other 28 points though. Plenty of blame points to go around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, MJS said: They really weren't today. They were not setting the edge. Rushing inside all night and allowing the runners to get around the edge. In this game, yes. Overall, they've been good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 10 minutes ago, Virgil said: Edmunds and Oliver are not living up to their 1st round statuses. That is very true Oliver and Harrison had one tackle each tonight. Woof. For all the draft picks the Bills have hit on.......major questions about Edmunds, Harrison, Oliver and AJ. Also makes you question the pick spent on Fromm when they could have addressed LB or CB. 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, TFBillsfan said: Oliver and Harrison had one tackle each tonight. Woof. For all the draft picks the Bills have hit on.......major questions about Edmunds, Harrison, Oliver and AJ. Also makes you question the pick spent on Fromm when they could have addressed LB or CB. I could not have said it better myself 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkeerie Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Don't forget. In addition to missing Milano, Tre and Wallace, we're also missing Star. Beane said that Star helps the line backers by tying up defenders allowing the MLB especially to make plays. It's no wonder our front seven especially looks ordinary this year. That has then put more pressure on our secondary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Oliver and edmunds are huge busts. Edmunds is an atrocious football player and hopefully this is the last year he starts for the bills. Oliver is probably fine as a starter when surrounded by good players on the line but considering where he was drafted, he's a bust. We need 4 new starters in the front 7. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tierlifer Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Is Beane still a wizard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, Virgil said: Edmunds and Oliver are not living up to their 1st round statuses. That is very true Edmunds is playing injured so I'll wait before saying that. But Oliver... yikes. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paulus Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Virgil said: Edmunds and Oliver are not living up to their 1st round statuses. That is very true I bet you they do once McBeane takes the playcalling from Frasier. Edited October 14, 2020 by Paulus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 16 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: We have one of the highest paid defensive lines in the league and do not stop the run or pressure well..... Very, very good point. In addition, how many dumb penalties tonight between Offside and roughing the passer? Unacceptable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 22 minutes ago, Bangarang said: Our defense probably liked it better when we were playing trash QBs last season That's the big difference. Plus: no Star, no Lorax, no Shaq, no Jordan Phillips. It shows. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuncha Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 D line is getting blown off the ball, no pass rush no penetration its sad. LB's look slow and out of position. Hopefully they can fix this. Someone on the D has to step up and become a leader. LORAX was that guy....his leadership is missed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jpsredemption Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Epenesa pick made no sense. Premium picks should be spent on speed rushers. Oliver has been a huge disappointment and Edmunds is just not good. I’d let him walk and not pick up the option. Need a Luke Kuechly type, Edmunds does not have the body type nor aggressiveness to play the position in the nfl . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 34 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said: Not sure how they fix it. Major issues with the front seven. DE (Murphy and Hughes) are not getting it done. Continue to give up contain and cannot get to the QB. Interior gets consistently pushed back. LB’s continue to be out of place. Edmunds is not progressing for a 3rd year starter. We need a thumper at LB and an edge rusher who is a difference maker which isn’t going to happen this season. all great points. but simple gap discipline would be helpful. Lawson is missed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 It's clear that Edmunds is out of his element at MLB. Our defensive line is designed for speed and penetration, which means we are abysmal at stopping the run. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 12 minutes ago, Jerome007 said: Edmunds is playing injured so I'll wait before saying that. But Oliver... yikes. Oliver should be a DE. way too small at NT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 These are facts folks. Absolute ZERO pressure from the front 7. This defense looks like complete trash. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just now, BillsEnthusiast said: It's clear that Edmunds is out of his element at MLB. Our defensive line is designed for speed and penetration, which means we are abysmal at stopping the run. we need a real MLB. move Edmunds outside. he is always out of position, and when in position often pushed around. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hampton Josh fan Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Beane and Sean should be well aware of the underperformance of the free agents and defensive draft choices. The problem is will they pull the trigger on a deal for a linebacker who can play the run and a cornerback who can defend big receivers. If they're willing to give a few draft choices, the teams that are rebuilding will give them some talent. Beane seems reluctant to trade draft capital. It's obvious we will have outscore teams in shootouts to win games. The scary thing is that Sean preaches discipline and the Bills had so many bad penalties. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 49 minutes ago, whorlnut said: ...and this is what we get. Yeah, yeah, yeah...we are missing Tre and Milano. I get that. But Milano was a fifth rounder and Tre has been overall underwhelming this season. Either way...Edmunds looks completely terrible, Oliver is almost non-existent, and Epenesa looks completely lost. It’s beyond pathetic. There really isn’t an excuse with all the premium picks spent on making this a premium unit. For sure. This D stinks. And if the O has a bad outing (like tonight) we are toast. Even when we have been at full strength we let teams hang around. Going to be a long season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 Just no playmakers on this defense. Even when the D is playing well, they are just “sound.” Never really making big plays, like sacks or turnovers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 1 minute ago, RyanC883 said: we need a real MLB. move Edmunds outside. he is always out of position, and when in position often pushed around. Honestly, you know who's always pushed around? Friggin Harrison Phillips. You can literally watch 99 go backwards on every single play. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 14, 2020 Share Posted October 14, 2020 17 minutes ago, ChanticleerBillsFan said: We have one of the highest paid defensive lines in the league and do not stop the run or pressure well..... They’re so terrible! So much for Oliver being the next Aaron Donald.. Edmunds also should be moved out to OLB.. but at this point I’m not sure if I’d exercise his 5th year option.. Also, Eric Washington has seemed to set this defense back quite a bit... and it looks like losing Bill Teerlinck has been of a huge detriment to this defense.. What can Allen do at this point??? Our defense is right up there with some of the worst defenses in the league!!! 42 points! Does Allen need to score 50 points every game? Not to mention our running game stinks! Even the best QBs need good teams around them... Outside of Allen, Diggs, Beasley, Smoke, Davis, Dawkins, Morse and Williams this team stinks! All our promising players on defense took a step back.... I think it’s coaching.. Frazier and Washington suck as coaches and should be fired! Good news is we have a QB, some nice receivers and some nice players on the OL.. Just gotta put a team around them.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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