Blank Stare Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Njoku and Knox would be something. I’d love it for the right price and I’m sure Josh would too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Alphadawg7 said: We dont have a 4th and not sure I would be ok sending a 3rd. All for a 4th if we had it, and I think he could fetch a 4th from someone else. So what can we offer as I think a 3rd is too much before we truly know what we already have at TE. 5th 5th and additional late pick or future pick 5th and Sweeny 5th and Kroft 5th and Yeldon (since they lost Hunt) Not sure how any of those work cap wise, just thinking players off the top of my head. I would do any of those trades. But not sure I would feel good about a 3rd and going into next years draft without a 3rd and 4th round pick. But I do love the idea of a Knox Njoku pairing for years to come. Just the athleticism alone between them too would significantly impact all the other players on the team as they could really put a lot of pressure on the defense. They lost Hunt? He get suspended again or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Rc2catch said: Not to be a Debbie downer here but take a peak at Njokus catch % he’s quite inconsistent as well. He floats in the 50-60% range. Obviously more to catch %’s but I personally would never support trading Knox at this stage. Similar to Allen his ceiling is just too high to give up on I looked it up, fair enough. I think I’m just going off my eyes. I watched a lot of Browns in 2018, and liked what I saw from Njoku, while I wasn’t very impressed with Knox last season, but I get the potential. I wouldn’t offer Knox, but if someone demanded him, I’d give him away if it meant an upgrade at the TE position. Whether or not Njoku is an upgrade is the subjective part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I just due the 3rd. His 5th year option is picked up so he is on contract next two years. That is why I would go to a third I get it from that perspective, but Njoku hasn't exactly broken out and lived up to his potential either. And with a young promising TE in Knox, plus Tommy has upside and even Kroft has some if he's healthy, a third feels a bit premature and a little rich. I wouldn't hate it, but not sure I would advocate for it either. Just simply on the fact I think Knox is going to have a much improved year and could easily put up a season better than Njokus best season so far which is still only 56 catches for a little over 600 yards and just 4 TDs. If this season was already over and Knox had a so so year, I would be all for it. Just still high on his potential, so I dont feel the urgency to move a 3rd for another TE that still has a lot of question marks and hasn't exactly been a stud yet himself. Like I said, I would do a 4th to pair him with Knox though, just dont have one of those. So I would focus on a 5th or a 5th and another pick and a player. I would be all for that. Edited July 3, 2020 by Alphadawg7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: I'd start with a #4 and a #6. I might be tempted to part with a #3. A third huh? More than I’d pay for a possible one year rental that could potentially turn into a couple games if the season is cancelled. I guess I’d consider a 4th but wouldn’t be happy about it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nanker Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 This is no joke you. Amirite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, RaoulDuke79 said: Love him when he played for the Canes. He's better than anyone we have at TE until Knox learns to catch. Njoku can’t catch either but I’d take him over Kroft 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) Would absolutely do it for the right price Edited July 3, 2020 by John from Riverside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I think we already have our injured TE in Kroft and I have yet to see where Njoku is a huge upgrade for us. I would not hate move but I hope we trade him for a 5th or less. Healthy Njoku > Healthy Kroft hands down. I'd make this happen. We need a better TE room. The worst thing that happens is a competition upgrade and possible cut or trade of Kroft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, NewEra said: A third huh? More than I’d pay for a possible one year rental that could potentially turn into a couple games if the season is cancelled. I guess I’d consider a 4th but wouldn’t be happy about it I wouldn't give up much if he only has one year left. Now......if they can come to terms on an extension, that would be a different story. As you say, that “one year” might only turn out to be a few games, and that draft pick could help you for years. Strange to even think that way! . Edited July 3, 2020 by Augie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 22 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Njoku can’t catch either but I’d take him over Kroft Njoku can't catch. Kroft can't catch. 'No Croom can catch'. Smith can't catch and is a penalty machine. O'Leary couldn't catch because he didn't wear gloves. Why don't we just petition the league that TEs are ineligible receivers? ? * As for getting another TE, I'm all for it. Might as well get a 12, cheaper than two six packs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, oldmanfan said: People get on Croom a lot but to me it looks like he has potential Potential to do what? He’s a fringe roster guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 I’d kick that tire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) Do it. If they will take Kroft then great. If not, throw in a draft pick or whatever vet OL/DL we plan on cutting. Edited July 3, 2020 by ngbills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 55 minutes ago, NewEra said: A third huh? More than I’d pay for a possible one year rental that could potentially turn into a couple games if the season is cancelled. I guess I’d consider a 4th but wouldn’t be happy about it It would be conditional on having the parameters of an extension worked out. But he is an immediate and significant upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 No thanks. Draft compensation plus contract demands will be too much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 39 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: It would be conditional on having the parameters of an extension worked out. But he is an immediate and significant upgrade. Gotcha. You think he’s THAT much better than Knox huh? I see them in a similar light. Athletic freaks that are meh as blockers with suspect hands. You’ve probably watched more tape on him than I but I’m just not sold on him being a proven commodity. Still some “ifs” in my book, but I agree that he’d be a great addition considering our current unit of TE’s is extremely underwhelming after knox’s potential Edited July 3, 2020 by NewEra Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, NewEra said: Gotcha. You think he’s THAT much better than Knox huh? I see them in a similar light. Athletic freaks that are meh as blockers with suspect hands. You’ve probably watched more tape on him than I but I’m just not sold on him being a proven commodity. Still some “ifs” in my book, but I agree that he’d be a great addition considering our current u it of TE’s is extremely underwhelming after knox’s potential Yes. I have only ever had 1 first round graded tight end. It was David Njoku. And I am a Knox fan. I like him a lot, but if you can keep Njoku healthy he is a game changer. Knox is a complimentary weapon. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 This is an EASY yes (and I’m a big fan of Knox). If the Bills trade for Njoku it will be the best TE room in franchise history. There I said it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 David Njoku, former 1st rd pick. Had a pretty productive 2018 season. If he could be had for a late rd pick or a depth player we're gonna cut anyways, i say go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 1 hour ago, NewEra said: A third huh? More than I’d pay for a possible one year rental that could potentially turn into a couple games if the season is cancelled. I guess I’d consider a 4th but wouldn’t be happy about it 2 years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 11 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: This is an EASY yes (and I’m a big fan of Knox). If the Bills trade for Njoku it will be the best TE room in franchise history. There I said it. Real high bar there 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gambit Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 People really want to trade a 3rd for a guy who has had 1 decent year and has had injury issues? I'm not saying I wouldn't want to trade for him, but definitely not worth a 3rd. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Gambit said: People really want to trade a 3rd for a guy who has had 1 decent year and has had injury issues? I'm not saying I wouldn't want to trade for him, but definitely not worth a 3rd. A 3rd is way to high I would trade a 5th or a player 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 21 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: 2 years Oh ok. My bad. A third is sounding better, but would prefer to give up less obv Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Knox is going to be a star. Best TE talent Bills have ever had. He is Jeremy Shockey 2.0 I really like Kroft as #2. And as I posted before I'm fine with Lee Smith as #3 TE. I'm also fine with Sweeney as #3 TE, and a reserve OT playing in the heavy formations. That said Njoku is a talent. Give them DiMarco and a #4. That adds more talent at TE and gets rid of a useless position. Dress 4 TE and line up one in the backfield from time to tie if needed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Knox is going to be a star. Best TE talent Bills have ever had. He is Jeremy Shockey 2.0 I really like Kroft as #2. And as I posted before I'm fine with Lee Smith as #3 TE. I'm also fine with Sweeney as #3 TE, and a reserve OT playing in the heavy formations. That said Njoku is a talent. Give them DiMarco and a #4. That adds more talent at TE and gets rid of a useless position. Dress 4 TE and line up one in the backfield from time to tie if needed. Knox is a serious TE prospect. Fans are stuck on the drops, and that's a problem. But this guy has talent to be a top TE. I'de love to add Njoku though and run double TES. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 38 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: Real high bar there Sad but true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Knox is a serious TE prospect. Fans are stuck on the drops, and that's a problem. But this guy has talent to be a top TE. I'de love to add Njoku though and run double TES. You can correct drops most of the time though Perry Tuttle never could. Bills history at TE is as bad as any position on any other team in NFL history. Zero ProBowls. Knox has as good a chance to end that streak as any TE they have had. All that, said, I'd still add Njoku if they can as he would be an upgrade over Kroft at a minimum. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: Knox is going to be a star. Best TE talent Bills have ever had. He is Jeremy Shockey 2.0 I really like Kroft as #2. And as I posted before I'm fine with Lee Smith as #3 TE. I'm also fine with Sweeney as #3 TE, and a reserve OT playing in the heavy formations. That said Njoku is a talent. Give them DiMarco and a #4. That adds more talent at TE and gets rid of a useless position. Dress 4 TE and line up one in the backfield from time to tie if needed. Would anyone want DiMarco ? Not meaning to bash the guy, but I’m not sure I wouldn’t ask for someone else in a trade. Knox has all the tools, but I hope he can put it together. His greatest asset is also his greatest flaw. It’s the fact that he didn’t play in much college. He looks like a talented guy who hasn’t seen much game action. It means he either has a ton of potential, or he’ll never be able to learn the intricacies of the game at this point. Hopefully he gets it. I don’t dislike the guy. I’m just hoping he isn’t a liability on the field, like he was much of last season. Edited July 3, 2020 by SirAndrew Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 28 minutes ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Knox is a serious TE prospect. Fans are stuck on the drops, and that's a problem. But this guy has talent to be a top TE. I'de love to add Njoku though and run double TES. This!!!! We watched NE and Baltimore do it. The Panthers did it with Olsen and Shockey , Cams rookie year. You want to see Josh excel??? We could accomplish that rare feat of winning the offseason AND regular season. Other than KC, who would have better Offensive weapons? Maybe some comparables but better? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 59 minutes ago, Gambit said: People really want to trade a 3rd for a guy who has had 1 decent year and has had injury issues? I'm not saying I wouldn't want to trade for him, but definitely not worth a 3rd. that’s above average for non-RB 3rd round picks and he still has a couple years cheap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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White Linen Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 3 hours ago, BornAgainBillsFan said: If he's demanding to be traded because he's afraid of competition at his position, count me all the way out!! Lousy culture fit for the Bills. Let him go infect the Jets. I think the team sent the message first by signing Hooper to a huge contract and then drafting a player in the 4th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 Knox is the best TE ever? I like the guy and think he can grow to maybe what you say, but that is a reach. Maybe,Imean that in a nice way, not disparaging Metzelaars. I met him when I was. Little boy that tower of a man, and he not only was a great pass catcher, but could block Sowell before this generation of TE’s. He was a stud back then and as humble as could be. im really hoping Knox, I really am he is the next gen. But he hasn’t proven it yet to be a The next Kittle. Let him prove it this year and I think you’re right he could do it. Then we can anoint him. I’m all for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airbornetrooper Posted July 3, 2020 Share Posted July 3, 2020 4 hours ago, oldmanfan said: People get on Croom a lot but to me it looks like he has potential Potential to marry into the Pegula family? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted July 3, 2020 Author Share Posted July 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, White Linen said: I think the team sent the message first by signing Hooper to a huge contract and then drafting a player in the 4th. They picked up his 5th year option though given Stefanski's affinity for running two TE sets. The Browns are not happy about this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornAgainBillsFan Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 18 minutes ago, White Linen said: I think the team sent the message first by signing Hooper to a huge contract and then drafting a player in the 4th. The team is trying to improve their roster. Good team players encourage that, and accept the challenge to their position (and bust their butt to keep it). Bad team players try to bail out, and find an easier situation for themselves. And again, this only applies if that's the reason Njoku wants out. It could be that the Browns disfunctionality hasn't improved under Stephanski. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 30 minutes ago, machine gun kelly said: Knox is the best TE ever? I like the guy and think he can grow to maybe what you say, but that is a reach. Maybe,Imean that in a nice way, not disparaging Metzelaars. I met him when I was. Little boy that tower of a man, and he not only was a great pass catcher, but could block Sowell before this generation of TE’s. He was a stud back then and as humble as could be. im really hoping Knox, I really am he is the next gen. But he hasn’t proven it yet to be a The next Kittle. Let him prove it this year and I think you’re right he could do it. Then we can anoint him. I’m all for it. I’m with you, although I don’t want to put down Knox too much. Bills fans have basically anointed him as a future great. He has potential, but I don’t see any guarantees that he’ll become great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florida Bills Fanatic Posted July 4, 2020 Share Posted July 4, 2020 Coming out of college Njoku was recognized as a significant talent with a high upside. He has battled some injuries and is on a team where he is usually the last option to receive targets. They didn't bring in Hooper and pay him good money to play in Njoku's shadow. The Browns will try to trade him but I doubt that they get an offer in the range that they probably want. If there wasn't a cap problem in NE, I could see the Cheaters taking a run at him. The Saints could have an interest as well. I think the Bills like the guys that they already have and won't spend draft capital or money to acquire him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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