Inigo Montoya Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) I looked back at the wide receiver stats for the 2019 season to see where our WRs ranked in the three main metrics, Yards / Receptions / TDs. The Bills will have three different receivers who were all highly productive in 2019. When you look at their ranks remember that there are 32 teams in the League and all three of our WRs rank inside the top 32 in every category except for Beasley falling to #38 in yards. *** Check out the rankings linked to below, they have numerous WR with the same number of TDs clumped together. I'm not sure how they assign individual ranks for WR with the same number of TDs. That seems a bit arbitrary. 2019 NFL WR RANKINGS YARDS RECEPTIONS TDs *** Diggs 15 31 29 Brown 19 22 26 Beasley 38 25 27 We have gone from a team with arguably the worst WR corps, to one of the best units in the League in two years. There are weapons all over this offense now who can score points. Let's hope that Diggs can get similar production with Allen in Buffalo. If Diggs is even close to his production last year, this offense is going to be exciting to watch. I think the days of watching "defensive battles" every Sunday is over. https://fantasyfootballers.org/wr-wide-receiver-nfl-stats/ Edited May 4, 2020 by Inigo Montoya 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, Inigo Montoya said: I looked back at the wide receiver stats for the 2019 season to see where our WRs ranked in the three main metrics, Yards / Receptions / TDs. The Bills will have three different receivers who were all highly productive in 2019. When you look at their ranks remember that there are 32 teams in the League and all three of our WRs rank inside the top 32 in every category except for Beasley falling to #38 in yards. YARDS RECEPTIONS TDs Diggs 15 31 29 Brown 19 22 26 Beasley 38 25 27 We have gone from a team with arguably the worst WR corps, to one of the best units in the League in two years. There are weapons all over this offense now who can score points. Let's hope that Diggs can get similar production with Allen in Buffalo. If Diggs is even close to his production last year, this offense is going to be exciting to watch. I think the days of watching "defensive battles" every Sunday is over. https://fantasyfootballers.org/wr-wide-receiver-nfl-stats/ The WRs will help, but it’s all on Josh Allen. 15 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, NewEra said: The WRs will help, but it’s all on Josh Allen. That is the real key as many say, a WR is only as good as the person throwing to him. It was a nice article this morning on Knox as Brown was stating he believes Knox will take a huge step this year. If we have a season which I think we will albeit with no fans, we should see a big step forward with this offensive unit. I’m excited for Moss as well as Singletary in the running game. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CSBill Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) Can't argue that Josh Allen is the key, and I would say if he just stays where he was last year--minus a few head scratchers he throws in there just for the Monday highlight shows--this offense will be better. However, I think the one area that will improve and will be the bigger factor in an improved offense is the run game. First, less Josh, more the backs. And now having two top backs (assuming Moss works out), will make a big difference. Let's face it, by the end of the season Gore was more a liability than a help. A full season of Singletary as #1, and a strong #2 guy, with an o-line that should be better as they get to year 2 of working together (remember, the o-line was completely overhauled last year), and the run game will improve. Because of that, it will give more opportunities in the passing game, and as long as Josh Allen doesn't regress, this offense will be much better. Why? = Better running attack to "matriculate the ball down the field." [You got to be a certain age to know where that comes from.] Edited May 3, 2020 by CSBill 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) I really miss Austin Proehl Edited May 3, 2020 by HOUSE 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cripple Creek Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 14 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I really miss Austin Proehl You’re funny that way. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 You can’t just aggregate Diggs’ stats into Brown and Beasley’s. Diggs will be taking catches away from those guys. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maryland-bills-fan Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: That is the real key as many say, a WR is only as good as the person throwing to him. It was a nice article this morning on Knox as Brown was stating he believes Knox will take a huge step this year. If we have a season which I think we will albeit with no fans, we should see a big step forward with this offensive unit. I’m excited for Moss as well as Singletary in the running game. heh? So I could be an all-pro if Montana or Bradey were throwing to me? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 I think it’s obvious that Diggs, Brown and Beasley will be big time contributors and if Gabe Davis or Isaiah Hodgins can step in at that 4th spot Allen should always have an open receiver. It’s going to take a lot of development on Allen’s part. Knowing where all your receivers are at in their routes and getting the timing down can be tricky. Throw in Knox, Singletary and Moss, it can be tricky to keep track of where everyone’s at. Ideally I’d like to see Allen force the ball to Diggs early and often, especially if he gets lost in his progressions, that’s why he’s here. Between the top 3 someone should always be open but against the better secondaries in the world Allen may have to delegate the ball to Davis, Hodgins, Singletary & Moss. Needless to say our offense went from bottom half of the league to potentially upper echelon. It all rests on Allen’s shoulders and whether or not he can correctly go through his reads. Should be a top 5 offense if we live up to our potential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, NewEra said: The WRs will help, but it’s all on Josh Allen. And seeing how Allen gave Brown and Beasley close to career years last season, there should be plenty of optimism. 8 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 44 minutes ago, HOUSE said: I really miss Austin Proehl I miss the WR group of Kelvin Benjamin, Zay Jones, Andre Holmes, Ray Ray McCloud, Jeremy Kerley and Robert Foster with a TE group of Clay, Jason Croom and Logan Thomas. ? 1 1 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, NewEra said: The WRs will help, but it’s all on Josh Allen. I wonder if the narrative will shift if Allen succeeds? Will people say Diggs, Brown and Beasley are carrying Allen? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockinon Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 With the additional weapons at Allen's disposal, I believe his job will be easier. He has grown and will continue to grow. Brown also makes a valid point about Knox. He is going to take on a bigger role this year. People like to point fingers at the drops, but when he gets more reps, he'll improve. Add in a strong running attack and RB's who can also catch, this offense can become dominant. I don't expect KC dominant, but maybe top 10. I am excited. Top 10 offense and a top 5 defense....the possibilities!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) Our entire team is excellent. There are absolutely no excuses now. If we don’t win playoff games, it’s on the QB. If we can’t win with this team, then we need to go get a vet QB next year and win before we have to start paying these young guys. Edited May 3, 2020 by Brianmoorman4jesus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 Remember when David Nelson was our #2 WR? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 The WR Corp is now complete. Last year they essentially played with two WRs and a paperweight. Allen never even looked at the third option. Now, assuming Beasley can get over his dropping issues, it’ll be virtually impossible for the opponents to cover all of these guys, and still keep one eye in our backfield for Singletary. Should be interesting. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 who’s The Bill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Charles Romes said: You can’t just aggregate Diggs’ stats into Brown and Beasley’s. Diggs will be taking catches away from those guys. Not really what he was saying. More that they are all upper tier receivers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IDBillzFan Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 I appreciate the stats and review, but I think the one thing we can all agree on is there is only one stat that matters when it comes to wide receivers: will Josh Allen ever have a 300-yard game? Until then, nothing else matters. Except power rankings. 2 7 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 8 minutes ago, IDBillzFan said: I appreciate the stats and review, but I think the one thing we can all agree on is there is only one stat that matters when it comes to wide receivers: will Josh Allen ever have a 300-yard game? Until then, nothing else matters. Except power rankings. Yes he will. Are you happy now? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 17 minutes ago, Hebert19 said: Not really what he was saying. More that they are all upper tier receivers. Yeah. Who do you double cover now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 37 minutes ago, Brennan Huff said: Remember when David Nelson was our #2 WR? And people thought he was good.. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 I am very happy with the Starting 3. My hope is the depth can step up and start pushing the starting three 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I am very happy with the Starting 3. My hope is the depth can step up and start pushing the starting three ^this-if one of those guys goes down the Bills could be in trouble. Hopefully Knox and Singletary improve significantly which would lessen that blow, but past the first 3 receivers they’re still lacking 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 3 minutes ago, Ya Digg? said: ^this-if one of those guys goes down the Bills could be in trouble. Hopefully Knox and Singletary improve significantly which would lessen that blow, but past the first 3 receivers they’re still lacking So are the vast majority of teams in the NFL. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ya Digg? Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Doc said: So are the vast majority of teams in the NFL. Good point-I guess I’m just hoping we are past the point of NEEDING to put Andre Holmes on the field as a receiver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, CSBill said: Can't argue that Josh Allen is the key, and I would say if he just stays where he was last year--minus a few head scratchers he throws in there just for the Monday highlight shows--this offense will be better. However, I think the one area that will improve and will be the bigger factor in an improved offense is the run game. First, less Josh, more the backs. And now having two top backs (assuming Moss works out), will make a big difference. Let's face it, by the end of the season Gore was more a liability than a help. A full season of Singletary as #1, and a strong #2 guy, with an o-line that should be better as they get to year 2 of working together (remember, the o-line was completely overhauled last year), and the run game will improve. Becasue if that, it will give more opportunities in the passing game, and as long as Josh Allen doesn't regress, this offense will be much better. Why? = Better running attack to "matriculate the ball down the field." [You got to be a certain age to know where that comes from.] On your first paragraph, I agree, especially if the dropped passes issue is fixed, hell, Josh would have been at sixty plus percentage on completions if only a third less passes were dropped, and that would likely result in more points scored, and more wins. Jmo of course. Go Bills!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Doc said: I miss the WR group of Kelvin Benjamin, Zay Jones, Andre Holmes, Ray Ray McCloud, Jeremy Kerley and Robert Foster with a TE group of Clay, Jason Croom and Logan Thomas. ? Well, I wouldn’t say I was missing it...? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 24 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: And people thought he was good.. Might have been the worst group of receivers in NFL history 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 (edited) Yes, it's on Josh now. Heck, it was on Josh last year and he showed good improvement with just Brown, Beasley, and Knox(who had many a game changing drop) added to the group. Now we've added a legit WR in Diggs and two rookies with solid potential in Davis/Hodgins. If Josh takes the same step forward from year 2 to 3 as he did from 1 to 2 then this offense is going to be hard to handle. Couple that with a good already, but seemingly improved defense, and we have a legit contender on our hands. Edited May 3, 2020 by H2o 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 34 minutes ago, CaptnCoke11 said: And people thought he was good.. I think people underestimate how good Fitz could be. That was our best passing offense Bledsoe and it featured 7th rounders and castoffs. and the only issue with this core is they can’t ride all the rides at Disney world. Would love to have some more size to them but they are a very good trio. 1 minute ago, H2o said: Yes, it's on Josh now. Heck, it was on Josh last year and he showed good improvement with just Brown, Beasley, and Knox(who had many a game changing drop) added to the group. Now we've added a legit WR in Diggs and two rookies with solid potential in Davis/Hodgins. If Josh takes the same step forward from year 2 to 3 as he did from 1 to 2 then this offense is going to be hard to handle. Couple that with a good already, but seemingly improved defense, and we have a legit contender on our hands. If Allen can’t led us to 24 points/ game (which is about average) this year, he’s never going to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 hour ago, Brennan Huff said: Remember when David Nelson was our #2 WR? and #1 in our hearts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffAlone Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Doc said: I miss the WR group of Kelvin Benjamin, Zay Jones, Andre Holmes, Ray Ray McCloud, Jeremy Kerley and Robert Foster with a TE group of Clay, Jason Croom and Logan Thomas. ? My goodness, that really was horrid. like, all time bad level 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 43 minutes ago, MAJBobby said: I am very happy with the Starting 3. My hope is the depth can step up and start pushing the starting three This Davis kid looks like he might get on the field. Brings something different than the other 3. 2 minutes ago, BuffAlone said: My goodness, that really was horrid. like, all time bad level incredible how recently this happened and how quickly it changed. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 hours ago, Inigo Montoya said: I looked back at the wide receiver stats for the 2019 season to see where our WRs ranked in the three main metrics, Yards / Receptions / TDs. The Bills will have three different receivers who were all highly productive in 2019. When you look at their ranks remember that there are 32 teams in the League and all three of our WRs rank inside the top 32 in every category except for Beasley falling to #38 in yards. *** Check out the rankings linked to below, they have numerous WR with the same number of TDs clumped together. I'm not sure how they assign individual ranks for WR with the same number of TDs. That seems a bit arbitrary. 2019 NFL WR RANKINGS YARDS RECEPTIONS TDs *** Diggs 15 31 29 Brown 19 22 26 Beasley 38 25 27 We have gone from a team with arguably the worst WR corps, to one of the best units in the League in two years. There are weapons all over this offense now who can score points. Let's hope that Diggs can get similar production with Allen in Buffalo. If Diggs is even close to his production last year, this offense is going to be exciting to watch. I think the days of watching "defensive battles" every Sunday is over. https://fantasyfootballers.org/wr-wide-receiver-nfl-stats/ I have been watching some of the 2018 season on replay and I realized that the best reciever on that team would be maybe our 5th best recieving option now and that truly that was the Shady and Josh show the last month of season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 1 minute ago, Buffalo Timmy said: I have been watching some of the 2018 season on replay and I realized that the best reciever on that team would be maybe our 5th best recieving option now and that truly that was the Shady and Josh show the last month of season. was it Foster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said: was it Foster? I think Zay is good enough to be our 5th reciever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Who Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 2 hours ago, PromoTheRobot said: I wonder if the narrative will shift if Allen succeeds? Will people say Diggs, Brown and Beasley are carrying Allen? Last line of defense for some folks. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 hours ago, NewEra said: The WRs will help, but it’s all on Josh Allen. It takes two to complete a pass and the Bills have ranked pretty high in drops during Josh's tenure so far, so it's at least as much on them as it is on him. Certainly he has room to improve, but he's better than his completion percentage would indicate, and that should show up in stats (and more importantly, wins) now that the receiving corps has been upgraded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Boy Posted May 3, 2020 Share Posted May 3, 2020 4 hours ago, NewEra said: The WRs will help, but it’s all on Josh Allen. We were second on the league, behind Miami, in dropped passes! While Josh has to get the ball out faster AND hit the long ball better, it is most definitely not “ All on Josh Allen.” 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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