stuvian Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/27/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-nfl-draft-jordan-love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TroutDog Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 If he can control his ego, he’ll have two more years with the Pack. In my opinion, he’s earned that. The question is how much like Favre he’ll be as Favre wouldn’t help the young buck if I recall correctly. If he gets the two years, he’ll be 38 and that is a heck of a career. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 No. Next question? 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 31 minutes ago, stuvian said: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/27/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-nfl-draft-jordan-love Guardian editor: "Hey, Connolly! NFL draft is over, and the website needs an article!" ? * Connolly: "Uh, I'll get right on it, Chief!" ? * Guardian editor: "DON'T CALL ME CHIEF!!" ? 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Done? No. Has the countdown now started? Yep. I think he might regret running Mike McCarthy out of town because McCarthy was willing to run a Rodgers centric offense. That isn't how LeFleur rolls. It is going to be the stretch zone and Rodgers is going to be judged by how well he executes the system rather than by how many plays he makes when things break down. At times last year when the system wasn't functioning you could see Rodgers's frustration mounting. Green Bay will win more games with LeFleur as they did last season, and Rodgers still played "well" but he is now just a piece of the puzzle rather than the engine that made the offense go. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Nope, he is a bit egotistical but he is still QB1 in GB for the foreseeable future. I don't think he will be the mentor type even though he knows exactly how it feels to be the young QB drafted to be the heir to a superbowl winning QB. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Why is this pick so difficult for so man to understand. He's not done, but he's pretty close. Why not draft his replacement now? Isn't that the smarter way to do it? 7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Was Bart Starr done...? Rodgers curve has flattened in GB. He has to now reinvent his style to be successful. He needs a new offence system to allow continued success. He may have to change teams to get the mental approach that will be necessary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I don't understand why GB's management hasn't upgraded their WR corp. Can you imagine all the contortions our local sports media would go through if the Bills management did not improve the Bills WR corp. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragoon Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I don't know whos draft was dumber, Green Bay's or Philly's.....what were they possibly thinking? I hope Rodgers forces his way out. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, GunnerBill said: Done? No. Has the countdown now started? Yep. I think he might regret running Mike McCarthy out of town because McCarthy was willing to run a Rodgers centric offense. That isn't how LeFleur rolls. It is going to be the stretch zone and Rodgers is going to be judged by how well he executes the system rather than by how many plays he makes when things break down. At times last year when the system wasn't functioning you could see Rodgers's frustration mounting. Green Bay will win more games with LeFleur as they did last season, and Rodgers still played "well" but he is now just a piece of the puzzle rather than the engine that made the offense go. Feels like that offense really doesn't have a ton of talent at skill positions Dillon should help with Jones i guess - but Adams and ??? at WR and TE. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 No. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 They can't afford to get rid of him for 2 years. Too big of a cap hit. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurmasThoman Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 5 minutes ago, Dragoon said: I don't know whos draft was dumber, Green Bay's or Philly's.....what were they possibly thinking? I hope Rodgers forces his way out. Teams weigh their options on scales we can't possibly begin to imagine. What is the ROI on every contract they hand out--and those are metrics that are based on everything from season ticket sales to hotdogs. A "controversial" rookie quarterback on a cheap deal, with a strong defense and running game, might bring an ROI that far outstrips whatever it is ARod brings to the table. 13-3 and 1 playoff game at home is the same as 10-6 and 1 playoff game at home, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Deleted my prior post. Misunderstood his contract details because of that article. He’s got 4 years left on it at very reasonable hits for a QB of his ability. That really makes the Love pick confusing to me. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 (edited) All good things come to an end. The question is - When He isn't getting younger He has had issues with coaches Is drafting a QB a sign? Maybe, maybe not. But I would expect a change sooner than later if the Packers don't win with him this season. Edited April 28, 2020 by SlimShady'sSpaceForce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordio Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Why is this pick so difficult for so man to understand. He's not done, but he's pretty close. Why not draft his replacement now? Isn't that the smarter way to do it? This is exactly right. The Pack are being proactive with their QB situation the same way when they drafted Rodgers. Unless injury, Love won't see the field until year 3. He is a project. Rodgers cap ramifications if the Pack decided to get rid of Rodgers these next two years is huge. My guess is AR has two more years in GB & I doubt he helps Love much, kind of the same way Favre really didn't help him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 The curse of Danica lives on. Stenhouse looks alot better post Danica maybe Rogers should dump her. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brennan Huff Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Zero chance. His contract makes him untradeable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 No Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein's Dog Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Mr. WEO said: Why is this pick so difficult for so man to understand. He's not done, but he's pretty close. Why not draft his replacement now? Isn't that the smarter way to do it? The pick is controversial because they are a contending team that could have done improvements for next season and been a contender. Instead they went with a backup QB and backup RB. Most people consider them draft losers for a reason. It has to frustrate the fans and Rodgers not to see the FO improve that receiving core. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 2 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Done? No. Has the countdown now started? Yep. I think he might regret running Mike McCarthy out of town because McCarthy was willing to run a Rodgers centric offense. That isn't how LeFleur rolls. It is going to be the stretch zone and Rodgers is going to be judged by how well he executes the system rather than by how many plays he makes when things break down. At times last year when the system wasn't functioning you could see Rodgers's frustration mounting. Green Bay will win more games with LeFleur as they did last season, and Rodgers still played "well" but he is now just a piece of the puzzle rather than the engine that made the offense go. I agree with all of this and it begs the question whether it is advisable to relegate a no-doubt future HOF QB to that sort of role when he still has a lot of ability. This is a "win now" league, after all. Sure, GB won more games last year but didn't many see them as a paper tiger when the playoffs rolled around? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lurker Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 IMO, he's got at least two more years there, simply based on the immovability of his contract... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, eball said: I agree with all of this and it begs the question whether it is advisable to relegate a no-doubt future HOF QB to that sort of role when he still has a lot of ability. This is a "win now" league, after all. Sure, GB won more games last year but didn't many see them as a paper tiger when the playoffs rolled around? Yea they are certainly a contender to take a step back in 2020. Their schedule is tougher but not impossible. Having the Bears and the Lions in the division helps. The Vikings are the best team in the NFC North though for my money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: The pick is controversial because they are a contending team that could have done improvements for next season and been a contender. Instead they went with a backup QB and backup RB. Most people consider them draft losers for a reason. It has to frustrate the fans and Rodgers not to see the FO improve that receiving core. Getting a WR in FA would have been a better route. A draft pick can/will take time to develop, time Rodgers doesn't have. But all they signed was Devin Funchess and 36 year old Marcedes Lewis. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 This question is a fan/ media thing, he isn’t going anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 13 minutes ago, Einstein's Dog said: The pick is controversial because they are a contending team that could have done improvements for next season and been a contender. Instead they went with a backup QB and backup RB. Most people consider them draft losers for a reason. It has to frustrate the fans and Rodgers not to see the FO improve that receiving core. Yes and they were heavily criticized in 2005 for drafting Rodgers with Favre still under contract. Looking at 2005 draft grades - lots of C-, D’s, and even Fs, but when you look 5 years out - that draft in 2005 is now all A’s and one of the best drafts of the year. Did it hurt GB in the short term - maybe, but Rodgers won them a Super Bowl and has made them relevant for over an additional 10 years. This pick is no different - if Love works out they are brilliant and if he fails - they still have time to find another QB before Rodgers retires. The timing is perfect and it is exactly what GB should be doing. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 He's still playing at a very high level, so no. *Ted Thompson is the reason he doesn't have more rings. It all began with letting Greg Jennings get away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 8 minutes ago, Rochesterfan said: The timing is perfect and it is exactly what GB should be doing. It is far from an "absolute" scenario. This is a "win now" league...and the situation under which Rodgers was still available in 2005 when the Packers drafted is much different than what transpired last week. The Packers have holes -- particularly in the "playmaker" category -- and ignored them to draft a project QB. It seems LaFleur is proving to be yet another power freak who will do it "his way" even though he has a HOF QB on his roster and a window to compete for Super Bowls. When you plan for 3-4 years ahead in this league at the expense of doing what you can to win now -- particularly with a guy like Rodgers behind center -- it's not a particularly smart move. Now, if LaFleur and the GM have analyzed their roster and don't think they could do enough with Rodgers to truly compete in 2020? That's something completely different. If Love turns out to be really good in 3-4 years people will look back and say how great it was for GB to take a chance on him...but if they've pissed away a shot at a SB title this year or next because of it I don't think you can say it was necessarily the right decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I won't weep for Aaron Rodgers. One of the biggest douche bags in sports. 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prickly Pete Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 I can't stand Rodgers, and have no interest in seeing the Packers succeed, so I hope he becomes a pain in the ass for all involved, and the team sucks for decades like the Bills did. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Dragoon said: I don't know whos draft was dumber, Green Bay's or Philly's.....what were they possibly thinking? I hope Rodgers forces his way out. They drafted RB, TE and three offensive linemen. And they have Favante Adam's who caught 83 balls for just under 1000 yards in 12 games. Maybe they were thinking there are other ways to help Aaron. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepthefaith Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, gjv001 said: I don't understand why GB's management hasn't upgraded their WR corp. Can you imagine all the contortions our local sports media would go through if the Bills management did not improve the Bills WR corp. Their opening day roster is not yet finalized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 He’s not done. It’s worth noting a couple things though on Rodgers. He’s a different guy than Brady. He may have thrown hints of retirement out there. The other thing is he has a propensity to get hurt and when he does they haven’t been able to adequately replace him. If they like Jordan love enough to give him a 1st rd grade they have him under control now for 5 years. It may piss off Aaron but it’s not personal, it’s business. im more surprised that the Steelers didn’t address the position more. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 10 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: im more surprised that the Steelers didn’t address the position more. That thills me. I hate Schittsburgh and their inbred fanbase. I'd love to see that franchise wither. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soflabillsfan1 Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 Terrible move. No reason to draft Love this year. Farve fell off a cliff the year they drafted Rogers. I don't see Rogers doing that for at least 3-4 years. Grab a guy in the 3rd or 4th every year and see if you can develop someone. Grabbing a backup Qb after you just went 13-3, insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Rochesterfan said: Yes and they were heavily criticized in 2005 for drafting Rodgers with Favre still under contract. Looking at 2005 draft grades - lots of C-, D’s, and even Fs, but when you look 5 years out - that draft in 2005 is now all A’s and one of the best drafts of the year. Did it hurt GB in the short term - maybe, but Rodgers won them a Super Bowl and has made them relevant for over an additional 10 years. This pick is no different - if Love works out they are brilliant and if he fails - they still have time to find another QB before Rodgers retires. The timing is perfect and it is exactly what GB should be doing. Taking a QB yes but they needed more WR support in Green Bay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessAccepted Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 4 hours ago, stuvian said: https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2020/apr/27/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-packers-nfl-draft-jordan-love Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted April 28, 2020 Share Posted April 28, 2020 32 minutes ago, soflabillsfan1 said: Terrible move. No reason to draft Love this year. Farve fell off a cliff the year they drafted Rogers. I don't see Rogers doing that for at least 3-4 years. Grab a guy in the 3rd or 4th every year and see if you can develop someone. Grabbing a backup Qb after you just went 13-3, insane. Favre had a really good season in 2004, and IMHO better than his 2003 season when he made the Pro Bowl. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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