WotAGuy Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Wasn’t he 5th year option about $10M? If so, makes sense the Bills didn’t resign him for those dollars that the Fins gave him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Man Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Imagine how big a number an actual pass rusher will get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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RyanC883 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 8 minutes ago, Jerry Jabber said: Ian Rapoport @RapSheet The #Dolphins are giving Shaq Lawson a 3-year deal worth $30M, source said. A nice payday. really suprised we didn't match that. That's not outlandish, esp. given he played 1/2 snaps with 6.5 sacks. not sure what great pass-rushers/DE's are avaialble in FA. And the draft does not look great. The top guy Chassion from LSU has no numbers to back up his athletic ability (looks like the guy from Michigan who went high last year). And the others look like 2nd rounders who will go in the 1st (Gross-Matos, Epenesa). I guess Baun at LB is possible. 4 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Beane is showing he puts a number down for a guy and won’t go over it. In particular when the guy has been in the building for 4 years. Beane and McDermott know what they are doing. I trust their evaluation of anyone on the defense. they have proven to be trustworthy. Wondering what the replacement strategy is, however. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 2 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: really suprised we didn't match that. That's not outlandish, esp. given he played 1/2 snaps with 6.5 sacks. not sure what great pass-rushers/DE's are avaialble in FA. And the draft does not look great. The top guy Chassion from LSU has no numbers to back up his athletic ability (looks like the guy from Michigan who went high last year). And the others look like 2nd rounders who will go in the 1st (Gross-Matos, Epenesa). I guess Baun at LB is possible. they have proven to be trustworthy. Wondering what the replacement strategy is, however. They are gonna get us someone. You know Beane has his wizard hat on tight all week. Ha Edited March 16, 2020 by atlbillsfan1975 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poblano Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 So far Miami is paying two (below) average players 10 millions avg/year. Is good for me 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 He's a nice player and would have been good to keep at a reasonable price. But not at $10M per for only 50% of the snaps. Can't keep everyone, and I'm OK with not overpaying to keep Shaq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 No state income tax and warmer weather. I wonder if Shaq gave Beane the opportunity to match it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do The Reich Thing Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Congrats Shaq and best of luck to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fansince88 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 10 mill....pass. This crew will replace him. Not worried. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: No state income tax and warmer weather. I wonder if Shaq gave Beane the opportunity to match it? Side note: This really isnt as big a deal to players as us fans make it. They pay state income tax for where ever each game is played. So at best it's a 50/50 savings. Plus, almost none of these guys are looking that deep into the numbers. 3 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: He's a nice player and would have been good to keep at a reasonable price. But not at $10M per for only 50% of the snaps. Can't keep everyone, and I'm OK with not overpaying to keep Shaq We're paying Trent Murphy $9.775M this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: He’s more of a run tackler but I wish him well except for 2x a year Ummm Joe, please give a justification in retaining Trent Murphy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hebert19 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 10m too much. 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: We're paying Trent Murphy $9.775M this year. Not for long 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Stop Billeiving Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 18 minutes ago, Putin said: With every signings so far I get more and more depressed, Bean better do something BIG and SOON , Patience young grasshopper. The same thing happened last year and we wound up with a great free agency group. Outside of Hopkins, is there anyone we really would have wanted at the years.money they signed for? None of my favorite targets have come off the board yet. As for Shaq, I didn't want to lose him but the Phins overpaid. Just my opinion, but generally the teams making the huge signings in the first wave of free agency tend to regret it. We're hopefully taking the smarter approach again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 17 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: $10M/yr is about right, and would rather have him at $10M than Murphy at $9.77M Murphys deal was $7.5m a year for 3 years.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 old regime guys always go out first 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Aussie Joe said: Murphys deal was $7.5m a year for 3 years.. Yes, that's an overall average. But when you look at the real numbers and add base salary and bonuses, his hit this year is $9.775M https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/trent-murphy-14456/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBob Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, Virgil said: I could honestly care less where he goes. He’s a worse Marcellus Wiley So then you still care some?? How much exactly do you still care? ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Allen Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Good for him. He worked hard, and deserves his payday. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 5 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Side note: This really isnt as big a deal to players as us fans make it. They pay state income tax for where ever each game is played. So at best it's a 50/50 savings. Plus, almost none of these guys are looking that deep into the numbers. Agents are well aware that they don't have to pay state income tax on at least 50% of their games. It's just a small advantage these teams have when recruiting free agents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 14 minutes ago, Do The Reich Thing said: Congrats Shaq and best of luck to you Maybe If he would have gone to let’s say Atlanta or Arizona BUT Miami ( best of luck) NO I’m not doing that 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Etsh Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Im laughing at the wording “affect” the quarterback- Not sacks or hurries necessarily but maybe like a stiff breeze or a bad smell. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Happy for Shaq, he got payed! But he is the ENEMY now!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 33 minutes ago, Putin said: With every signings so far I get more and more depressed, Bean better do something BIG and SOON , It appears the FO doesn’t know what to do and started treading water while other teams stepped up their game in the wake of virus imposed restrictions. I truly hope I’m wrong! 13 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Murphys deal was $7.5m a year for 3 years.. There’s no room here for logic! It’s PANIC TIME!! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Bummed about this too. But didn’t you anticipate this would happen? I was thinking Shaq would get around $12M which is what he can earn Miami. I didn’t see the team spending that much on him, so I knew he was gone and was ok with it. Not bummed by any means Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardhatharry Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Wasn't worried when Mario Williams went to Miami... Still don't care about who goes to Miami. Congrats Shaq you went to a team that is going nowhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, Hardhatharry said: Wasn't worried when Mario Williams went to Miami... Still don't care about who goes to Miami. Congrats Shaq you went to a team that is going nowhere. Still mad at Thurman for signing there tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Only Hughes and Ferguson remain from the disastrous Wrecks Ryan Era. And Hughes wasn't acquired by Ryan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 44 minutes ago, Putin said: With every signings so far I get more and more depressed, Bean better do something BIG and SOON , Seriously? A little over 3 hours into the 'legal tampering' window and you're depressed?? Don't you have an election to rig or something? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Good luck Shaq. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Putin Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 3 minutes ago, ExWNYer said: Seriously? A little over 3 hours into the 'legal tampering' window and you're depressed?? Don't you have an election to rig or something? The only thing I rigged was Craft’s 1st SB ring , the election was Ukraine NOT me !!!! Edited March 16, 2020 by Putin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eSJayDee Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 I would've been very happy retaining him for ~$8m/yr. IMO, $10m is not out of line for someone of his caliber. Somewhat surprised someone didn't offer more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 minute ago, ScottLaw said: Wasn’t Murphy a wrestler? If so, that is all the explanation you need.... He is a ginger, so already a +1 in McD's book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QCity Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Not even the least bit concerned about facing him twice a year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 To the fins? Your dead to me shaq 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 1 hour ago, MJS said: I'm sure our coaching staff knows exactly how to neutralize him. Yeah give him $10m per year I think he disappears in the Florida heat. They could have easily matched this but didn't see the value in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Shaq played well because McDermott is one of the leagues best defensive coaches. Shaq, IMO, will not be heard of much with the Phins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Wow. $10 million per year? I was expecting more like 8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 (edited) 12 minutes ago, White Linen said: Shaq played well because McDermott is one of the leagues best defensive coaches. Shaq, IMO, will not be heard of much with the Phins. Love Shaq but unfortunately I agree. Edited March 16, 2020 by LABILLBACKER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Good luck down there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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