Jets Quinnen Williams Arrested in NY

[BruceVilanch]

"New York Jets defensive lineman Quinnen Williams was arrested Thursday night for allegedly possessing a gun at LaGuardia Airport, according to Port Authority officials.

Williams, 22, was about to catch a plane out of town when he was arrested at 9:15 p.m. for criminal possession of a weapon, an Authority spokesperson said.

Williams, who was drafted No. 3 overall by the Jets in 2019, had a permit for the weapon, but it was licensed in Alabama, the spokesperson said. Under New York law, it is generally only legal to carry a concealed weapon in the state if it has a New York license.

It is unclear if Williams is being accused of trying to take the gun on the plane.

Neither the Jets nor Williams’ agent, Nicole Lynn, immediately responded to requests for comment.

Lynn, an agent for Young Money APAA Sports, tweeted earlier Thursday that more than half of the players represented by the agency were heading to Mexico for an event together. It was not immediately clear if Williams was en route to the event."

 

NY POST

 

 

[whatdrought]

I have several thoughts about this... 

 

1- I feel bad for whatever stupid lapse of judgment and lack of wise council caused this kid (22yr old) to not realize how much of an idiot he was being here. This will cause him issues- hopefully nothing too serious. 
 

2- We got the better DT in the draft. That was clear in play, but this drives that home some. 
 

3- Anything that makes the Jets look like more of a pile of ***** is good for me!

[Warcodered]

I mean he had an actual permit for it so it's mostly just being an idiot about interstate gun laws/transportation laws. If you're going to own a gun it's on you to learn the laws that apply to it.

Edited March 6, 2020 by Warcodered

[BruceVilanch]

Just now, Warcodered said:

I mean he had an actual permit for it so it's mostly just being an idiot about interstate gun laws/transportation laws. If you're going to own a gun it's on you to learn the laws that apply to it.

I own guns and I have a CC, but I certainly don't travel from Oregon to CA thinking gun laws are the same, I believe NY is just as strict with their gun laws as California is. 

[whatdrought]

9 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

I mean he had an actual permit for it so it's mostly just being an idiot about interstate gun laws/transportation laws. If you're going to own a gun it's on you to learn the laws that apply to it.

I mean, it sounds like he was in NYC with the gun, which is strike one. He was in the airport with said gun, likely not following expected TSA procedures for airport/air travel with a firearm, strike two. And it even seems to indicate that he was trying to actually board the plane with the gun! That would be strike three, but of course we’ll have to wait to see what comes of it.

 

All that being said, isn’t it nice that stuff like this hasn’t happened since McD came? Correct me If I’m wrong but have any of our important players been in the news for negative things? (I know a couple PS/ training camp guys had issues) —— character  matters! Edit: he seems like a good kid, so maybe this isn’t so much character as just really really dumb!

 

 

7 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said:

I own guns and I have a CC, but I certainly don't travel from Oregon to CA thinking gun laws are the same, I believe NY is just as strict with their gun laws as California is. 

Yep. #1 rule of firearm transport, be it plane, train, or automobile: you must be going from place A where it is legal and right for you to possess that firearm, to place B where it is also legal and right for you to possess that firearm.

Edited March 6, 2020 by whatdrought

[Warcodered]

11 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said:

I own guns and I have a CC, but I certainly don't travel from Oregon to CA thinking gun laws are the same, I believe NY is just as strict with their gun laws as California is. 

Right I'd say it's a pretty obvious assumption to think that gun laws might different in New York than in Alabama.?‍♂️

 

10 minutes ago, whatdrought said:

I mean, it sounds like he was in NYC with the gun, which is strike one. He was in the airport with said gun, likely not following expected TSA procedures for airport/air travel with a firearm, strike two. And it even seems to indicate that he was trying to actually board the plane with the gun! That would be strike three, but of course we’ll have to wait to see what comes of it.

 

All that being said, isn’t it nice that stuff like this hasn’t happened since McD came? Correct me If I’m wrong but have any of our important players been in the news for negative things? (I know a couple PS/ training camp guys had issues) —— character  matters! Edit: he seems like a good kid, so maybe this isn’t so much character as just really really dumb!

 

 

Yep. #1 rule of firearm transport, be it plane, train, or automobile: you must be going from place A where it is legal and right for you to possess that firearm, to place B where it is also legal and right for you to possess that firearm.

What's really scary about this whole thing is him getting caught trying take it on this plane in New York when the license and where he got it is probably Alabama....so how'd it get here.

[whatdrought]

3 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

Right I'd say it's a pretty obvious assumption to think that gun laws might different in New York than in Alabama.?‍♂️

 

What's really scary about this whole thing is him getting caught trying take it on this plane in New York when the license and where he got it is probably Alabama....so how'd it get here.

Yep. That will be the conversation that they have. I don’t know what the rules are for possession of a firearm in NY state, but I think in the city it’s completely forbidden? Not sure on all that. 

[MJS]

New York has some of the most strict gun laws in the nation. Anyone who owns a gun should be aware of that, especially if you live there!

52 minutes ago, Warcodered said:

What's really scary about this whole thing is him getting caught trying take it on this plane in New York when the license and where he got it is probably Alabama....so how'd it get here.

Could have easily gotten there by car or bus.

[DCbillsfan]

I did 23 years in law enforcement.  I would not be surprised if he literally forgot he had the gun in the luggage.  I know it sounds whacked but a fair number of people store their gun in their luggage at their home.  They pack for a trip and forget the damn gun is in there.  It would not be the first time I heard this.  

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

1 hour ago, DCbillsfan said:

I did 23 years in law enforcement.  I would not be surprised if he literally forgot he had the gun in the luggage.  I know it sounds whacked but a fair number of people store their gun in their luggage at their home.  They pack for a trip and forget the damn gun is in there.  It would not be the first time I heard this.  

I was just thinking to myself, I’m sure glad my travel pro carryon doesn’t have a holster compartment.

 

oooos did I forget to leave Betsy home again?? 

Edited March 6, 2020 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[fansince88]

3 hours ago, whatdrought said:

I mean, it sounds like he was in NYC with the gun, which is strike one. He was in the airport with said gun, likely not following expected TSA procedures for airport/air travel with a firearm, strike two. And it even seems to indicate that he was trying to actually board the plane with the gun! That would be strike three, but of course we’ll have to wait to see what comes of it.

 

All that being said, isn’t it nice that stuff like this hasn’t happened since McD came? Correct me If I’m wrong but have any of our important players been in the news for negative things? (I know a couple PS/ training camp guys had issues) —— character  matters! Edit: he seems like a good kid, so maybe this isn’t so much character as just really really dumb!

 

 

Yep. #1 rule of firearm transport, be it plane, train, or automobile: you must be going from place A where it is legal and right for you to possess that firearm, to place B where it is also legal and right for you to possess that firearm.

This explains  it all: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150101/guide-to-the-interstate-transportation

 

That said, I m a NYS CC Permit holder. It is my duty to know the laws of each state. You cannot legally posses in NYC without written consent by NYPD. I have family on Long Island. I could carry to LI from my county with my weapon stored the way it is explained in the first two paragraphs of the article without consent but can be arrested for it. If I dont get consent first I do not carry "through" NYC. That said, I also have a Utah permit that gives me lefal right to carry 42 states the time. That has changed in the last 9 years since I got it. For instance Pennsylvania no longer accepts the Utah Permit. But I can in Delaware.  So, I can travel under US law through Pennsylvania without overniting to go to Delaware with the proper transportation requirements in the first two paragraphs. NYS does not recognise any other states carry permits so the Alabama permit does not hold give him permission in  NYS and if he did not get permission in NYC he is screwed. 

[HOUSE]

40 hours community service

[Your Brown Eye]

[Buddo]

Never ceases to amaze me how often these sorts of things occur.

 

Seems as though a lot of guys need everything explained in words of one syllable.

 

Mind you, you would think that when permits do get issued, they would stress where they are valid, and where they are not. 

[Fixxxer]

Does he wear a sailor hat?

[BritBill]

9 minutes ago, Fixxxer said:

Does he wear a sailor hat?

 

To fly in? That would be dangerous. 

[fansince88]

42 minutes ago, HOUSE said:

40 hours community service

Even if the Judge is a NE fan?

[eball]

What person doesn't know carrying a weapon in an airport is a no-no?

[RichRiderBills]

5 hours ago, Warcodered said:

I mean he had an actual permit for it so it's mostly just being an idiot about interstate gun laws/transportation laws. If you're going to own a gun it's on you to learn the laws that apply to it.

 

Everyone knows the strict gun laws in NY. Nope. Still a felony...plus other charges for trying to bring one on a plane.

 

Completely irresponsible behavior. 

[Chandler#81]

8 minutes ago, eball said:

What person doesn't know carrying a weapon in an airport is a no-no?

Alabamians

[babulator]

Even if he had a NY permit he would not be allowed to carry it at Laguardia. You need an additional and special permit to carry inside of the NYC limits.

It's almost impossible to get one if you're not law enforcement or a security employee that also resides within city limits.

[/dev/null]

Two wrongs don't make a right

 

NYC unconstitutional gun laws are among the most oppressive in the country,

Anyone possessing a firearm should know the laws wherever they choose to carry

[All_Pro_Bills]

26 minutes ago, babulator said:

Even if he had a NY permit he would not be allowed to carry it at Laguardia. You need an additional and special permit to carry inside of the NYC limits.

It's almost impossible to get one if you're not law enforcement or a security employee that also resides within city limits.

Not impossible to get a NYC carry permit if you're politically connected or wealthy enough to grease the skids.  Everybody else has their applications pushed to the bottom of the pile or denied. 

[aristocrat]

should be banned from the league

[wppete]

6 hours ago, whatdrought said:

I have several thoughts about this... 

 

1- I feel bad for whatever stupid lapse of judgment and lack of wise council caused this kid (22yr old) to not realize how much of an idiot he was being here. This will cause him issues- hopefully nothing too serious. 
 

2- We got the better DT in the draft. That was clear in play, but this drives that home some. 
 

3- Anything that makes the Jets look like more of a pile of ***** is good for me!

I agree with all your points. I do feel bad for Williams because he seems like a good guy. But I definitely don’t feel bad for the Jets. 

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

6 hours ago, whatdrought said:

I have several thoughts about this... 

 

1- I feel bad for whatever stupid lapse of judgment and lack of wise council caused this kid (22yr old) to not realize how much of an idiot he was being here. This will cause him issues- hopefully nothing too serious. 
 

2- We got the better DT in the draft. That was clear in play, but this drives that home some. 
 

3- Anything that makes the Jets look like more of a pile of ***** is good for me!

You're right on all points.  Jests being the Jests.  They're so screwed up at times it's hard to imagine that anything worse could happen and then right on queue they crash and burn on something else.  They are better than reality TV.

[Don Otreply]

On 3/6/2020 at 1:16 AM, whatdrought said:

I have several thoughts about this... 

 

1- I feel bad for whatever stupid lapse of judgment and lack of wise council caused this kid (22yr old) to not realize how much of an idiot he was being here. This will cause him issues- hopefully nothing too serious. 
 

2- We got the better DT in the draft. That was clear in play, but this drives that home some. 
 

3- Anything that makes the Jets look like more of a pile of ***** is good for me!

4- He was headed to Mexico? , wtf was he thinking bringing as firearm into a Mexican airport? Let alone an American airport. He is lucky to be arrested in the States and not Mexico. What a fool this guy is, he should be required to wear a court jesters hat and a sign that says FOOL on it for a year straight after this is settled. 

 

 

Edited March 7, 2020 by Don Otreply

[atlbillsfan1975]

This sounds like a young guy not understanding the law for New York State. Yes, it is his responsibility, but the fact he has the proper permit for Alabama indicates someone willing to follow laws. 

[DJB]

 

[whatdrought]

3 hours ago, fansince88 said:

This explains  it all: https://www.nraila.org/articles/20150101/guide-to-the-interstate-transportation

 

That said, I m a NYS CC Permit holder. It is my duty to know the laws of each state. You cannot legally posses in NYC without written consent by NYPD. I have family on Long Island. I could carry to LI from my county with my weapon stored the way it is explained in the first two paragraphs of the article without consent but can be arrested for it. If I dont get consent first I do not carry "through" NYC. That said, I also have a Utah permit that gives me lefal right to carry 42 states the time. That has changed in the last 9 years since I got it. For instance Pennsylvania no longer accepts the Utah Permit. But I can in Delaware.  So, I can travel under US law through Pennsylvania without overniting to go to Delaware with the proper transportation requirements in the first two paragraphs. NYS does not recognise any other states carry permits so the Alabama permit does not hold give him permission in  NYS and if he did not get permission in NYC he is screwed. 

Who did you sell your soul to to get a NYS carry permit?

 

A major barrier to me wanting to come up and visit family is that my VA permit isn’t worth jack anywhere north of Richmond. 
 

but yeah- there are a lot of hoops to jump through... pretty much the easiest rule to remember is no airports unless you’re checking it, have the TSA papers, and have it locked down. From what’s been reported that doesn’t sound like his situation (not that it matters as he’s surely not allowed to have it in NYS/NYC)

[Royale with Cheese]

He was headed to Mexicdo with a gun?

 

Does he work for Saul Goodman?

 

[Steve O]

5 hours ago, DCbillsfan said:

I did 23 years in law enforcement.  I would not be surprised if he literally forgot he had the gun in the luggage.  I know it sounds whacked but a fair number of people store their gun in their luggage at their home.  They pack for a trip and forget the damn gun is in there.  It would not be the first time I heard this.  

 

2 hours ago, eball said:

What person doesn't know carrying a weapon in an airport is a no-no?

 

3 hours ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

I was just thinking to myself, I’m sure glad my travel pro carryon doesn’t have a holster compartment.

 

oooos did I forget to leave Betsy home again?? 

 

Anyone remember Barry Switzer being arrested for this:

"Switzer, after returning to Austin to join the team at training camp, said he had inadvertently left the gun in his travel bag after putting it there with the intention of hiding it from three young children who were guests at his home last weekend."

 

https://www.spokesman.com/stories/1997/aug/05/switzer-arrested-with-gun-cowboys-coach-said-he/

[Just Joshin']

Gun laws need to be normalized across the country but still stupid for him to do this. 

 

Not sure if there are mandatory penalties in NYS.  In NJ, there are no options from the mandatory jail time.  I was always afraid I would forget and take my legal gun from NY into NJ (driving) and it would be found. 

 

Unfortunate for him but I do not feel bad for the impact on the Jets.

 

[whatdrought]

22 hours ago, Just Joshin' said:

Gun laws need to be normalized across the country but still stupid for him to do this. 

 

Not sure if there are mandatory penalties in NYS.  In NJ, there are no options from the mandatory jail time.  I was always afraid I would forget and take my legal gun from NY into NJ (driving) and it would be found. 

 

Unfortunate for him but I do not feel bad for the impact on the Jets.

 

If by normalized, you mean eradicated, we agree.  but that’s probably a chat for the PPP. 

 

[mod edit: definitely a chat for the PPP.  Thnx!]

[John from Riverside]

You seriously can’t make this ***** up when it comes to the jets

[T master]

8 hours ago, BruceVilanch said:

I own guns and I have a CC, but I certainly don't travel from Oregon to CA thinking gun laws are the same, I believe NY is just as strict with their gun laws as California is. 

 

Yah NY's gun laws are pretty strict the powers that be know what's best for you though ... I just hope they don't throw the book at him for being foolish & not thinking ...

Edited March 6, 2020 by T master

[Buffalo Junction]

6 hours ago, DCbillsfan said:

I did 23 years in law enforcement.  I would not be surprised if he literally forgot he had the gun in the luggage.  I know it sounds whacked but a fair number of people store their gun in their luggage at their home.  They pack for a trip and forget the damn gun is in there.  It would not be the first time I heard this.  

I had that happen with a hunting knife. Previous trip was to Wyoming.... found the knife 3 months later while unpacking my carry on duffle in the Bahamas. How they missed a 5” fixed blade in the x-ray I’ll never know. 

[H2o]

Idiot

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

22 minutes ago, T master said:

 

Yah NY's gun laws are pretty strict the powers that be know what's best for you though ... I just hope they don't throw the book at him for being foolish & not thinking ...

 

I mean - he legally can't carry it in the state.  Let alone at the airport.  Huge lapse in judgement.

[MAJBobby]

Will be a fine, and get plead down.