ComradeKayAdams Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Clowney is a swiss army knife in the front 7. He can be lined up at Sam LB, either DE spot, nickel/dime DT, or as a LB/DE in a 3-4 scheme. Frazier's defense is at the point now where they can add layers of complexity to confuse even the most experienced of QB's and advance from really good to legendary. Clowney could singlehandedly do this for Frazier. Clowney's impact is not measured in personal sacks as much as it in the statistics of the overall defense. I wouldn't be shocked to learn that Brain Gaine is pushing Beane hard to go after him. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artem Lipatov Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Yesterday he chased Rodgers twice and his speed was tremendous. Rodgers threw away ball to avoid sack. I remembered Clowney's combine when all told he is freak of nature. His 40time was impossible for his size. Pairing with JJ Watt in Houston it looked scary. on paper. In reality it was nothing special. Me first attitude is worrysome. But we need a real DE instead of Murphy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) He certainly knows how to endear himself to a prospective employer... he could stand to employ a press agent, and keep his pie hole closed more frequently, it would up his odds of the contract he want by a fair amount... Edited January 13, 2020 by Don Otreply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrbojanglezs Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 If he doesn't think the Seahawks are a contender he definitely would not consider the Bills to be one. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Don’t want him. I’d much rather we cut Murphy, re-sign Shaq and go after Jordan Jenkins in free agency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I doubt the Bills go after him. Beane has already said many times over he wants to build thru the draft and then resign our own players. Whatever moves the Bills make in FA probably won't be the top FA's who cost big $$$. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Marv's Neighbor said: That would definitely change if he were playing for the BILLS. Irrespective of them ignoring that hit on Wentz, he’s one of - if not the most -penalized player in the league. I know he has the most in the league last year Edited January 13, 2020 by YoloinOhio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I would certainly show due diligence in making him a Bill if I was GM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Purplebulldog Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Nothing to see here move along, another Dareus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, thenorthremembers said: I'll tell you what I aint doing. I aint paying no sorry defensive end 7 million dollars a sack. I aint paying him that, not to sit there and watch him collect his check and not play a full season, I'd hate that. Will you pay him to jump Offside on the regular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Pending unrestricted free agent Jadeveon Clowney wants to play for contender GREEN BAY, Wisc. -- Jadeveon Clowney said his priority in free agency will be to play for a contender. "I just want to win," the defensive end said after the Seattle Seahawks' season came to an end with a 28-23 loss to the Green Bay Packers on Sunday at Lambeau Field. "I'm trying to get to the Super Bowl by any means. That's what I'm looking for: Who's going to get me there? I ain't looking to get on no sorry team for no money. That ain't going to fly. I ain't gonna put my body through all of that just to lose no 16 games, go home with my check. I'd hate that, so that ain't what I'm doing. So if I can't win no Super Bowl, I ain't going to no team that can't win." Clowney, who turns 27 next month, headlines the list of Seahawks scheduled to become unrestricted free agents in March and will be one of the top available pass-rushers on the market. His first order of offseason business will be to determine if he'll have surgery on the core-muscle injury that has plagued him since Week 10. He said he probably will, though Clowney decided to put off surgery after a November visit to Dr. William Meyers, a core-muscle specialist in Philadelphia. So on the one hand, the base sentiment seems worthy - he wants to play for a contending team, not collect a big paycheck as the splash FA signing for a “meh” team. On the other hand, he might just has well have printed a “warning” sticker to paste on his ass, “warning, if you sign me and things go badly Imma go into career preservation mode” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Will you pay him to jump Offside on the regular? I aint doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I think he re-signs with Seattle. They tend to sign guys on defense with dreadlocks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blacklabel Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Someone will overpay for him. Won't be Beane, but someone will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billzgobowlin Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: We're probably not on his list of preferred teams. I'm guessing he isn't on ours. Great talent but very inconsistent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 No thanks, he’s a Diva who can’t stay healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 He’s so overrated and not worth what he’s going to get. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a good player but he isn’t the difference maker he’s going to get paid like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanNC Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said: Pending unrestricted free agent Jadeveon Clowney wants to play for contender GREEN BAY, Wisc. -- Jadeveon Clowney said his priority in free agency will be to play for a contender. "I just want to win," the defensive end said after the Seattle Seahawks' season came to an end with a 28-23 loss to the Green Bay Packers on Sunday at Lambeau Field. "I'm trying to get to the Super Bowl by any means. That's what I'm looking for: Who's going to get me there? I ain't looking to get on no sorry team for no money. That ain't going to fly. I ain't gonna put my body through all of that just to lose no 16 games, go home with my check. I'd hate that, so that ain't what I'm doing. So if I can't win no Super Bowl, I ain't going to no team that can't win." Clowney, who turns 27 next month, headlines the list of Seahawks scheduled to become unrestricted free agents in March and will be one of the top available pass-rushers on the market. His first order of offseason business will be to determine if he'll have surgery on the core-muscle injury that has plagued him since Week 10. He said he probably will, though Clowney decided to put off surgery after a November visit to Dr. William Meyers, a core-muscle specialist in Philadelphia. ... I'll take "Rants that unequivocally indict you as an anti-process guy for $1000 Alex" 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Coach Tuesday said: Would be a home run signing for us and anyone who thinks otherwise or just looks at sack totals needs to watch some tape. Agreed. The guy was playing hurt and still looked like a difference maker out there. Yes he had a couple of penalties but he's a monster. I love to hear a guy who makes no bones about wanting to win. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, Cripple Creek said: Lots of double and even a rare triple negatives too. That takes planning. Was there a mystical quadrupal negative snuck in there? I don't think a human brain can quantify such things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thebandit27 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 A few thoughts here: 1) yes, Buffalo is a team that can win now 2) I suspect his agent knows this 3) I suspect his agent will also be well aware of Buffalo’s reputation for being ahead of the curve in terms of getting and keeping players healthy 4) I think many folks on this board have not watched much of Clowney. He’s an absolute animal. He RACKS up TFLs regardless of who’s around him, and mostly in systems that aren’t suited to his skill set 5) He has a good relationship with Brian Gaine. Gaine is the one that fought for giving Clowney a mega deal to stay in Houston. O’Brien said no. 10 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said: I ain't gonna touch this clown with a 10 foot pole. He ain't process. Not that I'm advocating for Clowney because I don't care either way, but "process" needs some spice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 15 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: Is this just you being insecure about the Bills? They went 10-6 and look to be a team on the rise. I would hope players see the Bills as a contending team next season and beyond. It might be haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jobot Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Surprised by the hate on this forum towards Clowney. My previous concern with the guy was he seemed the type of player to make a big payday and coast. He played HARD against Green Bay. I would love to have this guy in Buffalo if this is his attitude! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 35 minutes ago, ScottLaw said: When he does get paid he’ll be able to get the best English grammar teacher available. Should be priority number one for him.... It’s 2019. The book has been rewritten 24 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: He’s so overrated and not worth what he’s going to get. Don’t get me wrong, he’s a good player but he isn’t the difference maker he’s going to get paid like. He might be a tad overrated in my book, but simply because he’s been injury riddled. When I watch him, he stands out as a difference maker and someone that could help this defense get to the next level. Sign me up. I doubt he’d sign up for JA though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Sacks dropped off this year. Previous two he recorded 9/9.5 per. Regardless he is extremely disruptive and a complete DE. He is a dominant player and would help take this D to another and much higher level. I think Beane should have a run at him assuming the price is for value and not totally stupid money. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 18 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: A few thoughts here: 1) yes, Buffalo is a team that can win now 2) I suspect his agent knows this 3) I suspect his agent will also be well aware of Buffalo’s reputation for being ahead of the curve in terms of getting and keeping players healthy 4) I think many folks on this board have not watched much of Clowney. He’s an absolute animal. He RACKS up TFLs regardless of who’s around him, and mostly in systems that aren’t suited to his skill set 5) He has a good relationship with Brian Gaine. Gaine is the one that fought for giving Clowney a mega deal to stay in Houston. O’Brien said no. Stats stats stats and more stats. That’s what everyone wants and needs. Clowney is a difference maker, glad someone with working eyes sees this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Junction Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 11 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: A few thoughts here: 1) yes, Buffalo is a team that can win now 2) I suspect his agent knows this 3) I suspect his agent will also be well aware of Buffalo’s reputation for being ahead of the curve in terms of getting and keeping players healthy 4) I think many folks on this board have not watched much of Clowney. He’s an absolute animal. He RACKS up TFLs regardless of who’s around him, and mostly in systems that aren’t suited to his skill set 5) He has a good relationship with Brian Gaine. Gaine is the one that fought for giving Clowney a mega deal to stay in Houston. O’Brien said no. TFLs are often under rated because they’re not SportsCenter stats. They can completely change offensive playcalling though. I suspect that Gaine, Beane, etc are fully informed on what Clowney brings to the table with ability (penetration, TFLs), work ethic, and locker room demeanor. They also have a pretty good idea of what type of contract will get him to sign. The medical facilities and McD’s player workload management might actually be more important to some of these vets than us fans realize. Being ahead of the curve there will not only negate the possibility of a Trent Williams type of situation, but might prolong careers: Alexander, Kyle, Shady, Gore, etc. Players and agents look at all of those things. If they sign Clowney I’ll welcome the addition. If they don’t I’m okay with that too as long as they improve the position. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manther Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 hours ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I actually think we would be on the list of teams. And, he is a darn good football player who would fit quite nicely with the Bills. He's a beast of a disruptor! I would lean towards this. Not sold on it though. One of the previous posters mentioned they wouldn't bust our cap on this player. I would expect due diligence on him to bust the cap. We probably have one shot in the next 1-4 years to "bust" (not really bust, but, take a swing for the fences) in Free Agency. So, I agree it is imperative we get the correct player and person to swing for the fences on and can't miss. With that said, Clowney could be that player to swing for. I am not sure he is, but, I am not sure he isn't. If the Bills sign Clowney I will trust the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 39 minutes ago, bmur66 said: I would certainly show due diligence in making him a Bill if I was GM I think that goes without saying. And I think pretty much everyone here is spot on. He's a disruptive player that can make a huge impact on games. But he's a me first kinda guy. I would say, he's 27 and on his 2nd team already. That says to me that he has issues with other players in the locker room. I'd definitely give him a hard look, but he screams attitude player looking for a pay day. So, I'd be cautious about signing him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 he's not the only one i'd target, but this guy on our D in place of shak or murph would be like throwing a turbo charger on it. harrison coming back to make the DT position better, and Edmunds growing up more in the NFL would be awesome. also, houghs isn't going to be around for too much longer, clowney could fill the gap after say 2 years there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. L. Hot-Flamethrower Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I don't get how people can call him out for saying he wants to play for a contendor. Would it be better if he said, "I want to get paid, that's what matters, and at the end of the day I don't care where I play?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I prefer Arik Armstead over this yahoo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 They all say they want to play for a 'contender'. What they mean is...I hope a contender offers me the most money or let let me try to drive up the price a non-contender is going to pay me because "I want to play for a contender" and they're not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfanAZ Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 I would be more interested to see if Arik Armstead from the 49ers can fit with the Bills D. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, TwistofFate said: I prefer Arik Armstead over this yahoo. Say more. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 3 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said: I don't get how people can call him out for saying he wants to play for a contendor. Would it be better if he said, "I want to get paid, that's what matters, and at the end of the day I don't care where I play?" Because you'd expect a professional to be a little bit more professional with what he says and how he says it. See any Bills player on the current roster whos met with the media. That's the type of ***** you say to your agent, not the public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
section122 Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 44 minutes ago, thebandit27 said: A few thoughts here: 1) yes, Buffalo is a team that can win now 2) I suspect his agent knows this 3) I suspect his agent will also be well aware of Buffalo’s reputation for being ahead of the curve in terms of getting and keeping players healthy 4) I think many folks on this board have not watched much of Clowney. He’s an absolute animal. He RACKS up TFLs regardless of who’s around him, and mostly in systems that aren’t suited to his skill set 5) He has a good relationship with Brian Gaine. Gaine is the one that fought for giving Clowney a mega deal to stay in Houston. O’Brien said no. 23 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said: TFLs are often under rated because they’re not SportsCenter stats. They can completely change offensive playcalling though. I suspect that Gaine, Beane, etc are fully informed on what Clowney brings to the table with ability (penetration, TFLs), work ethic, and locker room demeanor. They also have a pretty good idea of what type of contract will get him to sign. The medical facilities and McD’s player workload management might actually be more important to some of these vets than us fans realize. Being ahead of the curve there will not only negate the possibility of a Trent Williams type of situation, but might prolong careers: Alexander, Kyle, Shady, Gore, etc. Players and agents look at all of those things. If they sign Clowney I’ll welcome the addition. If they don’t I’m okay with that too as long as they improve the position. I think the Gaine point is a huge one. He knows Clowney and his actual demeanor not just his trying to sign a lucrative deal demeanor. The other point is the new facilities. For someone who often has lingering injuries that would imo be a huge selling point. I like Clowney but I am a little weary of how much he will cost. I'm in full on trust the process mode though. If they pay him I will be happy, if they decide he isn't worth the price tag I will be happy. Such a strange offseason going in feeling this way... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 5 minutes ago, colin said: he's not the only one i'd target, but this guy on our D in place of shak or murph would be like throwing a turbo charger on it. harrison coming back to make the DT position better, and Edmunds growing up more in the NFL would be awesome. also, houghs isn't going to be around for too much longer, clowney could fill the gap after say 2 years there. In place of Murph, not Shaq. JMO. You forgot to mention Ed. We have a couple of 3techs who can bring pressure up the middle. With Clowney bringing it from the edge look out. He would also shore up the run D, something we could well use at times. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TwistofFate Posted January 13, 2020 Share Posted January 13, 2020 Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said: Say more. Why? Clowney is a dirty player, and practically just ***** over his whole team. Armstead has been solid the last two years and his character seems like a much better fit for what is being built here. He's a bull who can not only rush the passer, but has become a solid run stopper as well. He's a 3 down player with a great attitude. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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