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Pending unrestricted free agent Jadeveon Clowney wants to play for contender

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They all say they want to play for a 'contender'. What they mean is...I hope a contender offers me the most money or let let me try to drive up the price a non-contender is going to pay me because "I want to play for a contender" and they're not.

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3 minutes ago, D. L. Hot-Flamethrower said:

I don't get how people can call him out for saying he wants to play for a contendor.

 

Would it be better if he said, "I want to get paid, that's what matters, and at the end of the day I don't care where I play?"

Because you'd expect a professional to be a little bit more professional with what he says and how he says it. 

 

See any Bills player on the current  roster whos met with the media. 

 

That's the type of ***** you say to your agent, not the public. 

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44 minutes ago, thebandit27 said:

A few thoughts here:

1) yes, Buffalo is a team that can win now

2) I suspect his agent knows this

3) I suspect his agent will also be well aware of Buffalo’s reputation for being ahead of the curve in terms of getting and keeping players healthy 

4) I think many folks on this board have not watched much of Clowney. He’s an absolute animal. He RACKS up TFLs regardless of who’s around him, and mostly in systems that aren’t suited to his skill set 

5) He has a good relationship with Brian Gaine. Gaine is the one that fought for giving Clowney a mega deal to stay in Houston. O’Brien said no. 

 

23 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

TFLs are often under rated because they’re not SportsCenter stats. They can completely change offensive playcalling though. I suspect that Gaine, Beane, etc are fully informed on what Clowney brings to the table with ability (penetration, TFLs), work ethic, and locker room demeanor. They also have a pretty good idea of what type of contract will get him to sign. The medical facilities and McD’s player workload management might actually be more important to some of these vets than us fans realize. Being ahead of the curve there will not only negate the possibility of a Trent Williams type of situation, but might prolong careers: Alexander, Kyle, Shady, Gore, etc. Players and agents look at all of those things. If they sign Clowney I’ll welcome the addition. If they don’t I’m okay with that too as long as they improve the position. 

 

I think the Gaine point is a huge one.  He knows Clowney and his actual demeanor not just his trying to sign a lucrative deal demeanor.  The other point is the new facilities.  For someone who often has lingering injuries that would imo be a huge selling point.

 

I like Clowney but I am a little weary of how much he will cost.  I'm in full on trust the process mode though.  If they pay him I will be happy, if they decide he isn't worth the price tag I will be happy.  Such a strange offseason going in feeling this way...

 

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5 minutes ago, colin said:

he's not the only one i'd target, but this guy on our D in place of shak or murph would be like throwing a turbo charger on it.

 

harrison coming back to make the DT position better, and Edmunds growing up more in the NFL would be awesome.

 

also, houghs isn't going to be around for too much longer, clowney could fill the gap after say 2 years there.

 

In place of Murph, not Shaq. JMO. You forgot to mention Ed. We have a couple of 3techs who can bring pressure up the middle. With Clowney bringing it from the edge look out. He would also shore up the run D, something we could well use at times. 

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Just now, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Say more.  Why?

Clowney is a dirty player, and practically just ***** over his whole team. 

 

Armstead has been solid the last two years and his character seems like a much better fit for what is being built here. 

 

He's a bull who can not only rush the passer, but has become a solid run stopper as well.   He's a 3 down player with a great attitude. 

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3 minutes ago, section122 said:

 

 

I think the Gaine point is a huge one.  He knows Clowney and his actual demeanor not just his trying to sign a lucrative deal demeanor.  The other point is the new facilities.  For someone who often has lingering injuries that would imo be a huge selling point.

 

I like Clowney but I am a little weary of how much he will cost.  I'm in full on trust the process mode though.  If they pay him I will be happy, if they decide he isn't worth the price tag I will be happy.  Such a strange offseason going in feeling this way...

 

My big concern with Clowney is the constant injuries. It’s the reason why I don’t want them to sign AJ Green. Now, if those injuries fade because we have better medical staff and facilities I’d be happy to see that level of talent on the team. It’s something we won’t have a grasp on unless he’s signed. I will say that Beane has taken shots on injury prone players (Murphy, Kroft) and most haven’t worked out. Although Murphy stayed healthy this year. 

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He is on Beanes radar but not right up front, i think he wants way to much cash but Beane is a master so far at putting out contracts & getting players that benefit the Bills you never know he may be able to get someone like Clowney but given his injury history is he worth top cash in this league ?

 

When he is healthy he is a force but more so than not he has been hurt so will Clowney him self take that into consideration when it comes to his contract ? 

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Looking at spotrac they have Clowney expected market value at 20 million. They have Jordan Phillips at 6.1 and Shaq at 7.6.  Is Clowney worth those 2 and another solid piece?  I think both of those numbers are low for Phillips and Shaq but still something to think about...

 

Chris Jones is projected at 19.2 and is better at rushing the passer imo.

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1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said:

Irrespective of them ignoring that hit on Wentz, he’s one of - if not the most -penalized player in the league. I know he has the most in the league last year 

That should naturally take the pressure away from Hughes in that regards - unless they try to 1 up each other

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4 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said:

 

Say more.  Why?

My wife is a big 49ers fan so we watch the games. He is a consistent player in the run game. He is strong and keeps containment. He showed this season he can get to the QB with 10 sacks. Can this be repeated? I think it can with good players around him. 

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2 minutes ago, section122 said:

Looking at spotrac they have Clowney expected market value at 20 million. They have Jordan Phillips at 6.1 and Shaq at 7.6.  Is Clowney worth those 2 and another solid piece?  I think both of those numbers are low for Phillips and Shaq but still something to think about...

 

Chris Jones is projected at 19.2 and is better at rushing the passer imo.

Clowney or another top pass rusher is worth more than combined 90, 93 and 97. The D will be unbeatable because getting to the QB consistently with the front 4 will free up Frazier and McD to dictate the matchups.  

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2 minutes ago, Buffalo Junction said:

My big concern with Clowney is the constant injuries. It’s the reason why I don’t want them to sign AJ Green. Now, if those injuries fade because we have better medical staff and facilities I’d be happy to see that level of talent on the team. It’s something we won’t have a grasp on unless he’s signed. I will say that Beane has taken shots on injury prone players (Murphy, Kroft) and most haven’t worked out. Although Murphy stayed healthy this year. 

 

Yup very valid concern.  I know Clowney is a good player but to me, to get that giant contract you have to have both ability and availability.  I don't know that he checks that second box enough to make me comfortable to give him the big bucks.  If Beane decides to though I will get it especially with the Gaine connection and the facilities.  Hopefully the Bills can become like the early 2000s Suns where injury prone players go and resurrect their career due to the excellent staff/facilities.

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3 hours ago, SlimShady'sGhost said:

Pending unrestricted free agent Jadeveon Clowney wants to play for contender

 

GREEN BAY, Wisc. -- Jadeveon Clowney said his priority in free agency will be to play for a contender.

"I just want to win," the defensive end said after the Seattle Seahawks' season came to an end with a 28-23 loss to the Green Bay Packers on Sunday at Lambeau Field. "I'm trying to get to the Super Bowl by any means. That's what I'm looking for: Who's going to get me there? I ain't looking to get on no sorry team for no money. That ain't going to fly. I ain't gonna put my body through all of that just to lose no 16 games, go home with my check. I'd hate that, so that ain't what I'm doing. So if I can't win no Super Bowl, I ain't going to no team that can't win."

 

Clowney, who turns 27 next month, headlines the list of Seahawks scheduled to become unrestricted free agents in March and will be one of the top available pass-rushers on the market. His first order of offseason business will be to determine if he'll have surgery on the core-muscle injury that has plagued him since Week 10. He said he probably will, though Clowney decided to put off surgery after a November visit to Dr. William Meyers, a core-muscle specialist in Philadelphia.  

 

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Wow he speaks like a total dumbass

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There's no way he want's to play in a backwater like Buffalo when there are "contenders" in much larger cities.    

 

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33 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

Clowney is a dirty player, and practically just ***** over his whole team. 

 

Armstead has been solid the last two years and his character seems like a much better fit for what is being built here. 

 

He's a bull who can not only rush the passer, but has become a solid run stopper as well.   He's a 3 down player with a great attitude. 

What's wrong with Clowneys attitude? 

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32 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

Clowney is a dirty player, and practically just ***** over his whole team. 

 

Armstead has been solid the last two years and his character seems like a much better fit for what is being built here. 

 

He's a bull who can not only rush the passer, but has become a solid run stopper as well.   He's a 3 down player with a great attitude. 

 

Good player. Price would also be very high (with less of a track record). 9ners considering outright tag. Around 18Mm if they do that.

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3 minutes ago, starrymessenger said:

 

Good player. Price would also be very high (with less of a track record). 9ners considering outright tag. Around 18Mm if they do that.

They may not be able to afford him. 

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8 minutes ago, TwistofFate said:

They may not be able to afford him. 

 

Yeah with Buckner & Kittle coming up, both of whom they want to lock up long term. 

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Sounds like a process guy I am sure Beane is getting a plane  fueled on the tarmac now ;)

 

While I would never say never I doubt the Bills go after this guy.

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1 minute ago, JMF2006 said:

Sounds like a process guy I am sure Beane is getting a plane  fueled on the tarmac now ;)

 

While I would never say never I doubt the Bills go after this guy.

Apparently process guys are mediocre players who don’t want to get paid.... What exactly did this guy do or say that doesn’t make him a “process” guy?

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7 minutes ago, ScottLaw said:

Apparently process guys are mediocre players who don’t want to get paid.... What exactly did this guy do or say that doesn’t make him a “process” guy?

 

I will only play for a contender says it all.

 

Why wouldn't he say that he would love to re-sign  with Seattle?

 

He better be prepared to take less money as most of the top teams don't have much cap room.

 

I also think he is a dirty player and a cheap shot artist.

 

That hit on Wentz should have brought a huge fine it was much more dangerous than Cody Fords  so call Crack Back Block :(

 

They didn't even get a 15yd penalty player safety my azz :(

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Just now, JMF2006 said:

 

I will only play for a contender says it all.

 

Why wouldn't he say that he would love to re-sign  with Seattle?

 

He better be prepared to take less money as most of the top teams don't have much cap room.

 

I also think he is a dirty player and a cheap shot artist.

 

That hit on Wentz should have brought a huge fine it was much more dangerous than Cody Fords  so call Crack Back Block :(

 

They didn't even get a 15yd penalty plater safety my azz :(

He’s a dirty player based on one play? He wants to play for a contender.... big ***** deal. Why does that make him a “non process” guy?

 

Maybe he would love to play for Seattle again. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his comments.(unless you are referring to his English....which is terrible)

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Just now, ScottLaw said:

He’s a dirty player based on one play? He wants to play for a contender.... big ***** deal. Why does that make him a “non process” guy?

 

Maybe he would love to play for Seattle again. There was absolutely nothing wrong with his comments.(unless you are referring to his English....which is terrible)

 

We shall see won't we

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