FireChans Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 46 minutes ago, TheProcess said: Come on man, really? People were talking about how bringing Coughlin in would be a stabilizing, guiding force, and that promoting Marrone was the right move. Also, see any blow hard in the media during their one successful year. We all knew it was only a matter of time with Dougie leading the team. Plus, Coughlin’s style grew stale in NY. He’s a real hit with millennials. I mean, they went to the AFCCG with Bortles at QB. That’s a pretty solid achievement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil The Thrill Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 24 minutes ago, Joe in Winslow said: I remember when some clowns around here wanted this guy as a "football czar." Coughlin was a Plan B. Fans wanted Bill Polian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: "the best coaching and front office situation in the league". LOL I'll let you google it. I already did. It's not a pretty search. “Obviously“ exaggeration, sarcasm, and hyperbole are lost on you. Do you really think I was inferring people thought they’d be better than Belichick, Harbaugh, Tomlin, etc.? Come on man. The talking heads were quite pleased with this hire after the Gus Bradley loose-ship regime (fans not so much). Thought Marrone and Coughlin were just what they needed by bringing in a disciplined style. Only furthered by a fluke run to an AFC Championship. This is not news. 12 minutes ago, FireChans said: I mean, they went to the AFCCG with Bortles at QB. That’s a pretty solid achievement. Agreed. I’ll give them credit for that for sure. Still have no idea how they pulled that off. Yeah, they had a great D, but Bortles stepped up against big time opponents that year. He was awful in the WC game against us. Foreshadowing with respect to how good the Bills D would be come. Edited December 19, 2019 by TheProcess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Just now, TheProcess said: “Obviously“ exaggeration, sarcasm, and hyperbole are lost on you. Do you really think I was inferring people thought they’d be better than Belichick, Harbaugh, Tomlin, etc.? Come on man. You absolutely were. I quoted you. You we're not ambiguous. I called you on it and you told ME to google it. I did. Then you claimed it was all "hyperbole". LOL, no it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DallasBillsFan1 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 KHANNNNNN!!!!!!! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, RocCityRoller said: Pure speculation, but maybe they told Coughlin he had to fire St. Doug and Tom refused? Poor Wade Philips. ? Edited December 19, 2019 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalftimeAdjustment Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 When the NFLPA noted that a player won a $700K grievance, that 25% of all grievances were against Jacksonville, and players may wish to consider these facts when selecting a team, it was all over. As long as Coughlin remained, they'd only be able to sign the desperate. No one wants to work for a team that is basically 8x as likely to hassle them as any other team in the league. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, YoloinOhio said: ...and in a corner, somewhere, Eli Manning is curled up in the fetal position and sobbing softly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 BuT yOu NeEd To HiRe A fOoTbAlL cZaR tO bE sUcCeSsFuL iN tHiS lEaGuE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Didn't see that one coming. I figured Marrone would have gotten the can first. I don't know why everybody thinks everything that happened is Marrones fault. It is obviously above his pay grade. Head coaches don't have the power to make those sort of decisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 A small win for the Jaguars players. They no longer have to show up four hours early for meetings. No more three a days without water in full pads in August. An hour and a half long Catholic Mass before games no longer mandated. Hoover stew no longer the only selection at the dining hall. Bring on the free agents. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John in Jax Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Doc Brown said: A small win for the Jaguars players. They no longer have to show up four hours early for meetings. No more three a days without water in full pads in August. An hour and a half long Catholic Mass before games no longer mandated. Hoover stew no longer the only selection at the dining hall. Bring on the free agents. Oh yeah, I'm certain that the "old school" discipline was the reason Foles has played like crap this year. ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KD in CA Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Talley56 said: I still like him for what he and the Giants did to NE in the Super Bowl twice. Love....is not a big enough word to describe how I feel about Tom Coughlin beating NE twice in the Super Bowl. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 43 minutes ago, Mr. WEO said: You absolutely were. I quoted you. You we're not ambiguous. I called you on it and you told ME to google it. I did. Then you claimed it was all "hyperbole". LOL, no it wasn't. Whether you care to admit it or not is irrelevant. I’m the one who posted the comment, so I’m 100% certain I know what I meant by the post, but thank you for explaining what I meant to me. You were quoting sarcasm. I’m sorry you’re so bothered by this and the point was lost on you. Good luck playing board gestapo. It’s befitting, as I’m sure you’ll want the final word in this “feud” (did I do that right using the italics to indicate sarcasm?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Gilmore said: I would bet both are gone on Black Monday. Seems like a safe bet. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joemac1114 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 hours ago, Mc1320 said: Maybe Saint Doug will fire Hackett as OC to save his hide. Whoops, forgot that that was his tactic last year. Yeah I am sure he is bummed out with that Packers gig and leaving St. Doug behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 15 minutes ago, TheProcess said: Whether you care to admit it or not is irrelevant. I’m the one who posted the comment, so I’m 100% certain I know what I meant by the post, but thank you for explaining what I meant to me. You were quoting sarcasm. I’m sorry you’re so bothered by this and the point was lost on you. Good luck playing board gestapo. It’s befitting, as I’m sure you’ll want the final word in this “feud” (did I do that right using the italics to indicate sarcasm?). You bailed on your post. It happens. No need to concoct a backstory after the fact.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimKellyTryouts Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, YoloinOhio said: "I was the first coach of this franchise" ...flexing on his way out, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 53 minutes ago, ALLEN1QB said: I don't know why everybody thinks everything that happened is Marrones fault. It is obviously above his pay grade. Head coaches don't have the power to make those sort of decisions. Because the hatred for him is very strong still here because fans didn't get to see him run out of town with a Vince McMahon style public humiliation firing and he left on his own. He is the Bills fans Ex-Girlfriend they just can't get over..... 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 52 minutes ago, apuszczalowski said: Because the hatred for him is very strong still here because fans didn't get to see him run out of town with a Vince McMahon style public humiliation firing and he left on his own. He is the Bills fans Ex-Girlfriend they just can't get over..... Look how much happier I am with my new girlfriend!!! x 100 billion 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Sounds like Jacksonville was Fine City https://www.jacksonville.com/sports/20191218/jaguars-top-executive-tom-coughlin-fired Wonder how Dareus liked that atmosphere? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, BringBackOrton said: Look how much happier I am with my new girlfriend!!! x 100 billion Pics? Oh, sorry...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Augie said: I don’t see any advantage to doing this before the season is over. I mean, why now? Some feel it's a direct reaction to the NFLPA/players winning their grievances against Jax and to the NFLPA's "shots fired" https://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/jaguars-fire-coughlin-amid-3rd-season-following-nflpa-shot-121819 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob in STL Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Crap team for a crap town. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninChicago Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Kind if shows how dumb I am I remember hearing a false rumor the Bills wanted to bring him in as a couch/GM/advisor and being excited about it. The thought now makes me sad! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 2 minutes ago, Leonhart2017 said: Kind if shows how dumb I am I remember hearing a false rumor the Bills wanted to bring him in as a couch/GM/advisor and being excited about it. The thought now makes me sad! You and me both Leonhart. My picks for coach or GM would not, in hindsight, have enhanced this team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Augie said: I don’t see any advantage to doing this before the season is over. I mean, why now? I'd guess first dibbs on a new GM. New GM can then get a start on next year to include draft prep. Marrone can be released later. The Bill's likely would have liked Waley's replacement set further before the draft but it was too close. In contrast, this gives a replacement 4 months or so if hired tomorrow. That's my 2 cent guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said: Pics? Oh, sorry...... Augie, you’re on ? tonight! ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Joe in Winslow said: I remember when some clowns around here wanted this guy as a "football czar." Oh geez the “czar” talk. I’ve tried to forget that era. As for Marrone...I don’t dislike him because he jilted the Bills (I thought he was a decent but not great HC), I dislike him because he’s a thin-skinned quitter who has kept his reasons for leaving a “secret” all these years. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Not unexpected. Now can we get some players who will be soon leaving? 6 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Didn't see that one coming. I figured Marrone would have gotten the can first. Hes next ! 6 hours ago, HOUSE said: Scapegoat to save the Grand Poo bah 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 6 hours ago, BillsFan4 said: I’m wondering if Shad Khan actually gives Marrone and Caldwell another year now, without Coughlin, to see if they can do better without him less,I guess in everything. Khan seems very very slow to fire people (Caldwell still somehow has a job, and Gus Bradley survived forever). I could see him giving them a chance (not saying that I think they deserve it, just to be clear). Edit - now I’m not so sure after reading Shad Khan’s statement... says Marrone and Caldwell will report to him on an interim basis for the rest of the season. Khan could mean it as he is the interim the rest of the season, not Marrone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 It’s likely Marrone, and even the GM could be gone as well in two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 yeah you lose your starter at QB and the season usually goes to sh-t. no surprises there. steelers, lions, jags, all kaput bc of long term key injuries to key starters.... whatever. can't fire the players, so you fire the front office guys -- no cap hit there! whatever. turnovers lose games. key injuries to key starters lose seasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 (edited) As far as mocking people for wanting coughlin here... Yes, i would have liked it. This franchise needed to be dislodged from brandon and whaley in the worst way. They were the "football minds" and ownership was inexperienced and continued a chronically dysfunctional front office full of 'lifers' who didnt football very good. Marrone's resignation was a powerplay to cleanse the football dept and he was correct. It turns out that McDermott was the guy to do just that, and i would rather have him and his culture than coughlin's culture from the 60s. I would still take coughlin-caldwell-marrone over brandon-whaley-whatever coach wants a job bad enough to work under those 2. Edited December 19, 2019 by May Day 10 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 12 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Didn't see that one coming. I figured Marrone would have gotten the can first. That POS Marrone will be next, i still laugh at the clowns who cried after he left. Biggest jerk in football Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I don't see Coughlin getting fired first meaning Marrone is safe, unless he went to Khan and was constantly complaining about Coughlin hamstringing him. It wouldn't surprise me if Dougie was doing this to save his own behind though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
298Woody Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 This is good news for Caldwell the Buffalo guy who built a contender then they hired Coughlin and it went downhill. I still thank them for taking Darius off our hands. I still want to see the two Buffalo GM's do well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigPappy Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 13 hours ago, Augie said: I don’t see any advantage to doing this before the season is over. I mean, why now? I wouldn't be surprised if he figured they were going to give him the ax at the end of the season and asked them to do it now. The guy was already retired and had been enjoying his free time with his grand-kids before the Jags brought him in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
apuszczalowski Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 9 hours ago, In Summary said: I'd guess first dibbs on a new GM. New GM can then get a start on next year to include draft prep. Marrone can be released later. The Bill's likely would have liked Waley's replacement set further before the draft but it was too close. In contrast, this gives a replacement 4 months or so if hired tomorrow. That's my 2 cent guess. He wasn't GM, he was the president/Football Czar that was there to help the GM and Coach. 10 hours ago, BringBackOrton said: Look how much happier I am with my new girlfriend!!! x 100 billion You may think your happier, but you still can't get your ex out of your head and continue to care and wish bad things happen to them because your not over them. It's ok........ He can't hurt you and doesn't think of you anymore....... 1 hour ago, BigPappy said: I wouldn't be surprised if he figured they were going to give him the ax at the end of the season and asked them to do it now. The guy was already retired and had been enjoying his free time with his grand-kids before the Jags brought him in. I believe they asked him about it and he said he wasn't retiring and still wants to work for another team 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 I remember when he was linked to us being potentially interested in our HC job after Gailey. I wonder if he would have won here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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