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5 minutes ago, london_bills said:

They make a huge difference as to taking control of a game. Such momentum shifters 

It was one errant pass in the short to medium range. My point was that all the Qb's do this. Even Rodgers and the like.

 

Josh needs to work on the deep ball to round out his game. He has done quite well in the short to medium areas.

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4 minutes ago, klos63 said:

No, I'm seriously concerned that he forces open receivers to make more difficult catches than necessary. Numerous times Brown was open and couldn't get any YAC because of an inaccurate pass. It's a concern at this point.

I could understand him being late, as he's still young and learning to read defenses.It's his inaccuracy that still rears it's ugly head too often.

YAC - what's that? :bag:

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12 minutes ago, london_bills said:

Not really although the pass seemed to take ages to come down

He is late. End zone to Knox a split second earlier is a TD. 

 

Here's where having an expert watch that particular play would really help.

 

First off Allen was not widely inaccurate there as he got the ball exactly where it needed to be but as you say appeared to be off by a "split second".  I can live with that in a 2nd year QB. 

 

But what I would be curious about is at tomorrows film session at One Bills Drive will anyone say that Knox should have adjusted ever so slightly and stepped to the ball?  I mean if he does it blocks the DB from knocking the ball away and it's a either a TD catch or PI in the end zone as the DB would have had to run through Knox to get to the ball.  Kind of like that first Cleveland TD where the coverage was good but the WR made a nice adjustment to the ball. 

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On 11/6/2019 at 7:44 AM, Mango said:


I actually really like YAC as one of the metrics for how a QB is doing delivery the ball. I don’t think lack of YAC is a good defense for JA, rather an indictment. 
 

Current YAC leaders

1. Rodgers

2. Brady

3. Goff

4. Rivers

5. Mahomes

 

The only players Josh beats are back ups, starters who have missed a bunch of time (ie Brees, Tannehill, etc)

21 Josh Allen BUF 23 QB 8 8 148 243 1653 82 892 6.0 3.7 9.1 761 5.1 16 6.6 43 17.7 95 29 24 27 6.4
22 Case Keenum WAS 31 QB 7 7 126 188 1343 68 716 5.7 3.8 6.9 627 5.0 9 4.8 30 16.0 49 31 19 2 7.0
23 Sam Darnold NYJ 22 QB 5 5 110 174 1077 53 541 4.9 3.1 7.9 536 4.9 7 4.0 34 19.5 66 22 14 1 3.0
24 Tom Brady NWE 42 QB 9 9 230 355 2536 121 1421 6.2 4.0 7.2 1115 4.8 15 4.2 61 17.2 122 37 14 0  
25 Russell Wilson SEA 31 QB 9 9 200 293 2505 120 1537 7.7 5.2 9.4 968 4.8 11 3.8 54 18.4 138 37 30 23 7.4
26 Matthew Stafford DET 31 QB 8 8 187 291 2499 117 1609 8.6 5.5 10.6 890 4.8 10 3.4 59 20.3 87 23 17 10 5.6
27 Dak Prescott DAL 26 QB 8 8 190 273 2380 106 1460 7.7 5.3 9.6 920 4.8 19 7.0 30 11.0 68 19 28 10 7.6
28 Jameis Winston TAM 25 QB 8 8 182 307 2407 124 1586 8.7 5.2 10.5 821 4.5 15 4.9 61 19.9 114 41 27 17 5.6
29 Carson Wentz PHI 27 QB 9 9 190 303 2060 103 1223 6.4 4.0 8.6 837 4.4 18 5.9 52 17.2 95 33 17 14 7.3
30 Mitchell Trubisky CHI 25 QB 7 7 136 216 1217 61 652 4.8 3.0 7.4 565 4.2 14 6.5 37 17.1 68 27 12 5 5.8
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Those are all QBs below Josh on YAC/Comp you have your sort wrong

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Jeremy on WGR made a good point.  I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Most of Allen’s completions are to guys standing at a spot or throwing to a spot while the player is turning around. He’s rarely completes passes while the WR is on the run. The short slants to Beasley can be good, or the inaccurate pass to Brown would’ve been on the run.  He rarely throws guys open. He’s basically doing what everyone said about Tyrod. He’s a taller Tyrod right now.

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12 minutes ago, zow2 said:

Jeremy on WGR made a good point.  I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Most of Allen’s completions are to guys standing at a spot or throwing to a spot while the player is turning around. He’s rarely completes passes while the WR is on the run. The short slants to Beasley can be good, or the inaccurate pass to Brown would’ve been on the run.  He rarely throws guys open. He’s basically doing what everyone said about Tyrod. He’s a taller Tyrod right now.

I said the same thing. He doesn't throw with anticipation. He throws to guys in open spots in the defense. It's why I've had Baker rated over him. Baker anticipates breaks. 

 

It's why he and Tyrod seem to hold the ball so long. They have to see the receiver be open opposed to throwing them open. 

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4 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

 

What an idiotic statement.

 

But I get it, the loss stings, so we say stupid stuff.

Nah, Allen just sucks.  


Eventually this will not be a debatable point.

 

I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too.

 

We all want the same thing!  The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational.

 

 

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On 11/11/2019 at 6:26 AM, zow2 said:

Jeremy on WGR made a good point.  I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Most of Allen’s completions are to guys standing at a spot or throwing to a spot while the player is turning around. He’s rarely completes passes while the WR is on the run. The short slants to Beasley can be good, or the inaccurate pass to Brown would’ve been on the run.  He rarely throws guys open. He’s basically doing what everyone said about Tyrod. He’s a taller Tyrod right now.

Tyrod wouldn't attempt 1/10tg of the throws Josh attempts on a weekly basis. This chemistry with Brown could turn into something special. They hooked up on some great throws and routes  Taylor would NEVER attempt

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On 11/11/2019 at 3:48 AM, Nextmanup said:

Nah, Allen just sucks.  


Eventually this will not be a debatable point.

 

I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too.

 

We all want the same thing!  The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational.

 

 

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On 11/11/2019 at 6:48 AM, Nextmanup said:

Nah, Allen just sucks.  


Eventually this will not be a debatable point.

 

I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too.

 

We all want the same thing!  The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational.

 

 

 

Boy, he sucked on ice today, huh?

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On 11/11/2019 at 1:48 AM, Nextmanup said:

Nah, Allen just sucks.  


Eventually this will not be a debatable point.

 

I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too.

 

We all want the same thing!  The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational.

 

 

 

Yikes!!!

 

Didn't realize this was the very last post before today's game. :doh:

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On 11/11/2019 at 6:48 AM, Nextmanup said:

Nah, Allen just sucks.  


Eventually this will not be a debatable point.

 

I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too.

 

We all want the same thing!  The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational.

 

 

Outstanding. Just outstanding. 

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The recipe across the NFL for a W is solid rushing numbers, NO turnovers and a solid passing game 220+ yds. Enough to keep the chains moving.  The 300 yarders through the air often don’t win, they’re playing catch up.  But it’s nice to have the ability in your back pocket. I think that’s why so many people harp on it. They Just want to see Josh show the ability to do it. But today isn’t the day to give a crap about that. Josh played very well and nobody should complain. 
personally when I look at stats for Lamar Jackson, Allen and a few others I count the rushing yardage as part of their overall package. Allen accounted for over 300 yards of offense today. That’s a day!

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On 11/11/2019 at 6:26 AM, zow2 said:

Jeremy on WGR made a good point.  I was thinking the same thing yesterday. Most of Allen’s completions are to guys standing at a spot or throwing to a spot while the player is turning around. He’s rarely completes passes while the WR is on the run. The short slants to Beasley can be good, or the inaccurate pass to Brown would’ve been on the run.  He rarely throws guys open. He’s basically doing what everyone said about Tyrod. He’s a taller Tyrod right now.

 

Beaseley in particular but also Brown and even McKenzie are not YAC players. BEasley gets knocked down by the wind. 

 

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2 hours ago, zow2 said:

The recipe across the NFL for a W is solid rushing numbers, NO turnovers and a solid passing game 220+ yds. Enough to keep the chains moving.  The 300 yarders through the air often don’t win, they’re playing catch up.  But it’s nice to have the ability in your back pocket. I think that’s why so many people harp on it. They Just want to see Josh show the ability to do it. But today isn’t the day to give a crap about that. Josh played very well and nobody should complain. 
personally when I look at stats for Lamar Jackson, Allen and a few others I count the rushing yardage as part of their overall package. Allen accounted for over 300 yards of offense today. That’s a day!

Yeah. Together with the mention of 300 yd game from Allen, people wanted a 3td pass game and he did that today. 

I know he ran but we know he can do that. 

 

(Opponent aside) There was something different about Allen today, and the team. Watching the highlights it felt like times when the Bills play a team that are more determined than them and get pushed around - that team was the Bills today. There was a 'we are better, we are not going to lose' mentality through the team. 

31 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said:

Let’s see what he does against a good defense.  Beat New England 

Ravens, steelers, cowboys, pats are all tests 

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7 hours ago, Scott7975 said:

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Tyrod wouldn't make half those throws.  He did not use the middle of the field like that.

 

 

The comparisons to Tyrod by Buffalo media this week was peak stupid in the analysis of Josh Allen.

 

Considering that it was coming mostly from the morons that wanted the guy in charge of carrying a clipboard (well tablets now) for Ryan Fitzpatrick makes them look even more ridiculous.  

 

Looking forward to hearing them downplay this bc it was against a joke team or something.  Or not a 300 yard game.  

3 hours ago, Ray Finkel said:

Let’s see what he does against a good defense.  Beat New England 

 

 

Allen is currently in the company of every QB in the league in that department especially trying to win there.  No one does.  

 

But, ok?  I love the "beat New England" requests.  Lol

 

Wentz looked just as shook vs them today as Josh did.  It happens.  

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On 11/11/2019 at 1:48 AM, Nextmanup said:

Nah, Allen just sucks.  


Eventually this will not be a debatable point.

 

I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too.

 

We all want the same thing!  The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational.

 

 

Something tells me you have ‘A bit more rational’ vanity tags or something equally bishmade 

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On 11/11/2019 at 6:48 AM, Nextmanup said:

Nah, Allen just sucks.  


Eventually this will not be a debatable point.

 

I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too.

 

We all want the same thing!  The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational.

 

 

 

I don't get the Allen/Tyrod comparisons at all, Allen keeps most of these games within reach and I've never felt like we were out of it even when he fumbles or makes a bone headed play. Hell if he didn't get knocked out in that NE game I think he would of pulled another win we shouldn't have had out of his ass. How many 4th QTR comebacks has Tyrod ever had? Allen has 6 game winning drives so far. Imagine if the Steelers gave up on Big Ben who fans had to wait 4 seasons before he turned into the QB he is today, Matthew Stafford took until year 3, Jared Goff, year 3 and countless others. In fact the game managing is really similar to that of Big Ben, he game managed for 3 seasons maybe it's a small school thing? I mean going form Wyoming offenses to the NFL has to be a hell of a leap and he doesn't even have 2 full seasons under his belt yet he is a winner and were friggin 7-3 facing the Broncos next. You state we want the same thing yet say our 7-3 QB sucks...Why? Because he doesn't have a 300 yard passing day every week? How's that working out for Kyler Murray? I get not everyone likes Allen like yourself but to say the guy straight up sucks  is laughable imo.

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On 11/11/2019 at 10:48 PM, Nextmanup said:

Nah, Allen just sucks.  


Eventually this will not be a debatable point.

 

I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too.

 

We all want the same thing!  The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational.

 

 

 

Nah, most of us want the Bills to win and Josh to be successful, you seem far more concerned with being right. Buffalo is in the thick of a playoff run for the second time this millennium and you spent the whole season b##ching and moaning about it. 

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4 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

The comparisons to Tyrod by Buffalo media this week was peak stupid in the analysis of Josh Allen.

 

Considering that it was coming mostly from the morons that wanted the guy in charge of carrying a clipboard (well tablets now) for Ryan Fitzpatrick makes them look even more ridiculous.  

 

Looking forward to hearing them downplay this bc it was against a joke team or something.  Or not a 300 yard game.  

 

 

Allen is currently in the company of every QB in the league in that department especially trying to win there.  No one does.  

 

But, ok?  I love the "beat New England" requests.  Lol

 

Wentz looked just as shook vs them today as Josh did.  It happens.  

 

Wentz was terrible yesterday, tons of bad throws.  Could have won or at least tied that game up.

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On 11/11/2019 at 6:48 AM, Nextmanup said:

Nah, Allen just sucks.  


Eventually this will not be a debatable point.

 

I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too.

 

We all want the same thing!  The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational.

 

 

DK syndrome in effect right here ?

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On 11/11/2019 at 6:48 AM, Nextmanup said:

Nah, Allen just sucks.  


Eventually this will not be a debatable point.

 

I'm sure there are folks around here who still think Tyrod could have done it and should still be the starting QB too.

 

We all want the same thing!  The difference is some of us like to delude ourselves into believing something because it feels good, others are a bit more rational.

 

 

 

Man, you must have had a really bad day yesterday.

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8 hours ago, Big Blitz said:

 

 

The comparisons to Tyrod by Buffalo media this week was peak stupid in the analysis of Josh Allen.

 

Considering that it was coming mostly from the morons that wanted the guy in charge of carrying a clipboard (well tablets now) for Ryan Fitzpatrick makes them look even more ridiculous.  

 

Looking forward to hearing them downplay this bc it was against a joke team or something.  Or not a 300 yard game.  

 

 

Allen is currently in the company of every QB in the league in that department especially trying to win there.  No one does.  

 

But, ok?  I love the "beat New England" requests.  Lol

 

Wentz looked just as shook vs them today as Josh did.  It happens.  

Lamar didn’t have a problem 

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8 minutes ago, Ray Finkel said:

Lamar didn’t have a problem 

Lamar bet them with his legs and throws off schedule throws   Daboll should dial up a lot of rpo and Allen should be prepared to checkdown a dozen times to backs when Pats sink into that cover 2 umbrella

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Well... this maybe says something about his INT

 

https://theathletic.com/1407189/2019/11/24/seven-observations-from-the-bills-win-ed-oliver-pops-off-the-screen-defense-borders-on-dominant-once-again/

4. Allen, despite brief mistakes, shows poise and potential

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He wasn’t without his faults, as Allen committed his first interception since Week 5 — though the encouraging part is that there was a great deal of thought behind the interception.

 

“The coverage that I thought they were in was quarters, and their safety was committing to the run. That’s our cue to kind of put it over the top, and my eyes were on (the safety) and I didn’t see the backside safety moving post high,” Allen said. “They disguised it well, they made a play. Obviously it’s one that I want back, but it’s one that I’d probably do again.”

 

The interception isn’t the desired result, but that line of thinking shows the inherent progress Allen is making in diagnosing defenses — needing Denver to disguise it to make the error. It’s a negative and a positive play all at once because he’s thinking through the play at an advanced level, which will teach the quarterback to look for those coverages moving forward. Allen did have another turnover-worthy throw that he got away with but protected the ball otherwise. He continues to shows signs of improvement, even through errors, to help the Bills come away with a victory.

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On 11/18/2019 at 9:16 PM, 78thealltimegreat said:

What gets the Pats are TEs that are matchup problems with their lbs we don’t really have a guy like that but hoping Knox develops into that 

We do...use Knox and Kroft....Kroft needs to be part of this offense....

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7 hours ago, transplantbillsfan said:

Allen was 7-for-8 passing on 3rd down with four passing first downs and three rushing first downs on 3rd down today. 12 total 3rd downs with 7 converted for a 58.3% conversion rate for Allen on those plays today.

 

Great stat.  Guy is clutch and I am starting to expect us to convert long 3rd downs.  

 

Never used to be that way.

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