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With the large influx of Olinemen I was starting to believe that the major weakness we suffered with last year was behind us. However, the injuries and poor performance of the Oline at camp on day 6 is very concerning. I know it's early, but as of today the four highest paid free agent Oline signees are either injured or unable to crack the starting lineup. Josh Allen was under extreme pressure throughout the prctice.

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If this O-line has you worried, it is a wonder that you survived last year.

JoshAllenHasBigHands
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This is peak pre-season message board material.  I mean, the D-Line gets paid alot of money too.  They are gonna win the day from time to time. Also, not for nothing, they were really good for the fir

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The only concern should be Morse’s concussion, other than that, I don’t really read too much but into preseason practices.

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3 minutes ago, gjv001 said:

With the large influx of Olinemen I was starting to believe that the major weakness we suffered with last year was behind us. However, the injuries and poor performance of the Oline at camp on day 6 is very concerning. I know it's early, but as of today the four highest paid free agent Oline signees are either injured or unable to crack the starting lineup. Josh Allen was under extreme pressure throughout the prctice.

 

 

Yes WE ARE at that point of the Offseason, I wonder when it was coming.  Let me ask how did they look in the 9 on 7 or the team sessions that are CLOSED to media?  Have you been to camp to see how they are actually doing?  Even outside media has taken notice of how night and day they look in performance.

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To be fair for day 6 they were juggling a lot of pieces around just to see how guys do at different spots, and Morse isn't in there.

 

But you are right to be concerned, if these guys don't gel together, then this offense is going to be bad again... It will slow Allen's growth, it will negate the signings we made of weapons for Allen, and likely cause us to not be a playoff contender.

 

So it's not a small thing if these new pieces can't come together...

 

All that said, we have time! We still have a week before the first preseason game, and then we have 4 weeks with 4 preseason games for these guys to get used to each other, the coaches to tinker, and for things to gel.

 

The real work is done during contact practices and games, that's how the chemistry is going to build.  Sure shorts and helmet practices are good for these guys to learn basics and know where each other will be, but at the end of the day the way they'll build chemistry is when the bullets fly knowing where to be and the tendencies of the guys next to them.  

 

If by week 3 of Preseason we don't have our starting 5 set and they are still looking shaky, then worry, but for right now, take it with a grain of salt. 

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When you begin to put the pads on and hiting your gonna get bumped up. Normal to get headaches as well wouldn't be to worried. The bills traning staff over the last three years has been great with resting players, and keeping them healthy

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They're giving Ford every chance to start at RT, but i don't think they'll hesitate to roll with Nsekhe.  If no one takes the RG spot, Ford starting there where he doesn't have to deal as much with speed may be a good place to help get more comfortable with the NFL game.  

 

I kind of hope the backup C job gets a bit more nailed down too - Morse has missed time the last 2 years.  Signing Long and Feleciano made me think they wanted an upgrade over Bodine (and i want an upgrade over bodine - he sucks).

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Mitch Morse has me concerned, only in the fact that you just never know when he might get his bell rung and be out a couple games.

 

Aside from that though, I think we have a lot of potential.  Dawkins/Ford could be book-end young tackles, and if needed Ty Nsekhe (a good player) is in the fold.

 

Spain and Long are average at G, but average is a lot better than what we've had.  Feliciano gives us solid veteran depth at the position.

 

Morse is a stud as long as he can avoid concussions.  That being said, I wouldn't be opposed to keeping Bodine given we've already had to put Morse in protocol.

 

Most teams struggle to put out 4-5 average guys on their OL.  I think we can, at the very least, do that.

 

OL is a position where, 1 or 2 above average guys and the rest being average, is considered one of the better units in the league.

 

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41 minutes ago, gjv001 said:

With the large influx of Olinemen I was starting to believe that the major weakness we suffered with last year was behind us. However, the injuries and poor performance of the Oline at camp on day 6 is very concerning. I know it's early, but as of today the four highest paid free agent Oline signees are either injured or unable to crack the starting lineup. Josh Allen was under extreme pressure throughout the prctice.

Number one factor in an OLine's performance is their ability to gel together over time so they know each other's tendencies and what the other is going to do against certain looks and pressures. If at mid-season we haven't seen steady improvement from preseason game 1 up til that point then yes it is a concern.  At this point, it's not a concern at all and it should almost be expected.

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43 minutes ago, JoshAllenHasBigHands said:

This is peak pre-season message board material.  I mean, the D-Line gets paid alot of money too.  They are gonna win the day from time to time. Also, not for nothing, they were really good for the first five practices. 

Yep. It’s worth noting the DL struggled the day before when the OL got the better of it. It’s training camp; there are gonna be ebbs and flows. 

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52 minutes ago, gjv001 said:

With the large influx of Olinemen I was starting to believe that the major weakness we suffered with last year was behind us. However, the injuries and poor performance of the Oline at camp on day 6 is very concerning. I know it's early, but as of today the four highest paid free agent Oline signees are either injured or unable to crack the starting lineup. Josh Allen was under extreme pressure throughout the prctice.

No reason to panic about the O-line.....they're not scrimmaging and just started in pads

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2 hours ago, gjv001 said:

With the large influx of Olinemen I was starting to believe that the major weakness we suffered with last year was behind us. However, the injuries and poor performance of the Oline at camp on day 6 is very concerning. I know it's early, but as of today the four highest paid free agent Oline signees are either injured or unable to crack the starting lineup. Josh Allen was under extreme pressure throughout the prctice.

 

Jesus.

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35 minutes ago, Azucho98 said:

Last years line was one of the worst ever fielded by a Bills team.  There is NO WAY this years line will be as bad or worse.  Much more talent on the roster.

While our oline certainly wasn’t good last year, I think you overstating how bad it was.  https://www.pff.com/news/pro-2018-nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-teams-units-after-week-17. And you certainly are underestimating how many bad olines this franchise has fielded. 

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3 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said:

While our oline certainly wasn’t good last year, I think you overstating how bad it was.  https://www.pff.com/news/pro-2018-nfl-offensive-line-rankings-all-32-teams-units-after-week-17. And you certainly are underestimating how many bad olines this franchise has fielded. 

 

Incoming BADOLBILZ rebuke for questioning orthodoxy

 

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I don’t worry about things I have no control over, I’m retired living on my sail boat in the Bahamas for Five months of the year, hell, I rarely worry ever. (Except for Mother Nature having her way, it’s a boat life thing).   Training camp football is on the list of things to not be worried about.  Actual games, I like to see my chosen team win.  I’ll leave the “worrying ” to the GM and HC.  To the OP just sit back and enjoy the spectacle that is the NFL, and most importantly the Buffalo Bills.

 

Go Bills!!!

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I'm actually surprised there wasn't more shuffling of players than there were at camp so far (injuries aside) seems Dawkins and Spain are locked on the left, Morse when healthy at center and just some experimenting on the right side. Hoping it helps build some continuity earlier  rather than later.

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Best part of the "training camp" version of TSW are the people who have their finger locked on refresh 16 hours a day who then insist that there is nothing to be concerned about when something negative is reported.  :lol:

 

 

 

 

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1 hour ago, gjv001 said:

With the large influx of Olinemen I was starting to believe that the major weakness we suffered with last year was behind us. However, the injuries and poor performance of the Oline at camp on day 6 is very concerning. I know it's early, but as of today the four highest paid free agent Oline signees are either injured or unable to crack the starting lineup. Josh Allen was under extreme pressure throughout the prctice.

Good thing real football isn’t for another 6 weeks 

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