GreggTX Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I was dissapointed that he didn't play better or hit doubl digit sacks, but historically, many guys ned more than 1 year to recover both physically and psychologically from such a serious injury. Besides, he wasn't that bad -- just average, really. He's still relatively young too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I just hope he stays healthy. Seems hampered by injury all year. Will they keep both him and Shaq (assuming Hughes stays too) plus draft a pass rusher high? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted February 12, 2019 Share Posted February 12, 2019 I expect him to play 40% of the defensive snaps when he's healthy enough to do so. I'd say the over under on games missed this year due to injury is 5. Other than that I dont expect much. He's had 4 seasons in the league, with his high point being 9 sacks with Washington, other than that he's had 2.5, 3.5 & 4 with the Bills last season. So like i said, i don't expect much outta him for the Bills. For Trent i expect he'll cash in another 8.5 mil & live a pretty comfortable life that the most of us can only dream about haha. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Its really going to depend on whether he can stay healthy or not. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, brianthomas said: I expect him to play 40% of the defensive snaps when he's healthy enough to do so. I'd say the over under on games missed this year due to injury is 5. Other than that I dont expect much. He's had 4 seasons in the league, with his high point being 9 sacks with Washington, other than that he's had 2.5, 3.5 & 4 with the Bills last season. So like i said, i don't expect much outta him for the Bills. For Trent i expect he'll cash in another 8.5 mil & live a pretty comfortable life that the most of us can only dream about haha. Sad but true. Can't expect him to do an Aaron Schobel type comeback like in 09. I agree we'll be lucky to get 40% snaps out of him in some rotation with Shaq and Lorax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CommonCents Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Hughes is one of the most explosive guys off the snap Lawson/Murphy had to have been two of the slowest. Get healthy and play better or get cut and make room for someone else! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 To miss at least 4 games. I’m pretty good with all their defensive moves but this is one of my least favorite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I wish I expected more than injury. Please prove me wrong!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBeaneBandit Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I think if he makes it through training camp and pre season relatively injury free we could actually see a pretty solid year from him. If we start seeing something nagging him constantly......he could be cut or even a trade attempt of some kind. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimeAFLGuy Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 20 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: I just hope he stays healthy. Seems hampered by injury all year. Will they keep both him and Shaq (assuming Hughes stays too) plus draft a pass rusher high? ...McBeane seems to gamble on signings coming off injury (but he was cash strapped in 2018), but the PED suspension was the surprise...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I don’t worry about him too much. Health is the big concern obviously. He looked pretty good in the limited action he had. I still have high hopes for lawson, thought he played amazing this year. If he gets some pass rush skills Lawson is the guy we should be hoping to see numbers from. Murphy is the pass rush “specialist” with limited snaps 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Man, everyone loved the Murphy signing before the season. Now everyone acts like they hated theove and Beane should be fired for it. I think he can be an effective pass rusher when healthy. Let's hope he can get healthy and prove everyone right (sentiment from when we first signed him) and everyone wrong (current sentiment). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I expect Trent to be playing for another team next season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, MJS said: Man, everyone loved the Murphy signing before the season. Now everyone acts like they hated theove and Beane should be fired for it. I think he can be an effective pass rusher when healthy. Let's hope he can get healthy and prove everyone right (sentiment from when we first signed him) and everyone wrong (current sentiment). I liked it. I was expecting some pressure out of him. Our sack #'s were pretty bad with him being hurt and Hughes being held so much. If he can stay healthy, our sack #'s should be better. Imagine this defense with more pressure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I expect him to be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo86 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 5 minutes ago, Bad Things said: I expect Trent to be playing for another team next season. This. The Bills structured Murphy's contract with an out for this offseason. Cutting him before the 5th day of the league year will leave the Bills with a $3.5M cap hit, freeing up $5M to be put toward someone who can make more of a contribution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 He was pretty effective when healthy. I'm just concerned about his availability. He's a solid pass rusher when he's able to suit up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pbomb Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 20-25 sacks, defensive player of the year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Was not impressed at all with him last year. Injury or not he was still out there. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I expect Trent Murphy to be cut. Injury concern, and he's nothing special when he is on the field. Actually, a run defense liability as he doesn't maintain his lane. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 16 minutes ago, Bad Things said: I expect Trent to be playing for another team next season. I expect you will be disappointed. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 45 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Its really going to depend on whether he can stay healthy or not. So,you expect him to play day in and day out next summer at SJF, how else can you pass judgement if he doesn't ? He's damaged goods and has no push from his lower body...up top he's strong and has a wide wing but that does n'tcut in the NFL since these OT's are getting taller,bigger and stronger..with tree trunks for legs. Trim the fat.... Edited February 13, 2019 by Misterbluesky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Gilmore said: I expect Trent Murphy to be cut. Injury concern, and he's nothing special when he is on the field. Actually, a run defense liability as he doesn't maintain his lane. Me too. And I think he will be. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IgotBILLStopay Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 He sucked early on but appeared to find a groove as the season warmed up. I am cautiously hopeful he will give us 8 sacks this year because of Hughes and the stud we are going to draft.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 9 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: He was pretty effective when healthy. I'm just concerned about his availability. He's a solid pass rusher when he's able to suit up. But he isn't healthy ...his knee is shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Formerly Allan in MD Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 He'll keep my fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad Things Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 7 minutes ago, Just Joshin' said: I expect you will be disappointed. I'm a Bills fan. Of course, I'm going to be disappointed! Duh! 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Albany,n.y. Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I expect him to tackle Patrick Mahomes on 4th down in the final minute of the AFC Championship game & send the Bills to Super Bowl LIV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Duffy Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Augie said: I wish I expected more than injury. Please prove me wrong!!! This. I agree.I expect more injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 He should just roid-up again and see how long he can get away with it. Seems like a lot of roid guys get these never-ending injuries. Probably some science behind it... body with PED, then not... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Given last season, it's hard to expect a lot. You just hope he can stay healthy, and if he returns to his pre-injury form you're getting a bonus. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Misterbluesky said: But he isn't healthy ...his knee is shot. That's the concern. I think the staff needs to do it's due diligence on the health of his knee and if it doesn't look good, perhaps cut bait. I've read that it was a team friendly contract. Lawson isn't the pass rusher that Murphy is, but he's available and he also made some strides last season. Maybe they keep both, but I could see them having to decide between these two young men. Edited February 13, 2019 by BillsSB2020 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 11 minutes ago, BillsSB2020 said: That's the concern. I think the staff needs to do it's due diligence on the health of his knee and if it doesn't look good, perhaps cut bait. I've read that it was a team friendly contract. Lawson isn't the pass rusher that Murphy is, but he's available and he also made some strides last season. Maybe they keep both, but I could see them having to decide between these two young men. Murphy is 8.5 this year..3.5 is dead cap.I agree 100% about Lawson,he had a great preseason last year and had a solid season with the real bullets flying..but I still want more out of him because of where Whaley selected him. Who knows about Murphy...odds are arthritis has hit his knee by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 1 minute ago, Misterbluesky said: Murphy is 8.5 this year..3.5 is dead cap.I agree 100% about Lawson,he had a great preseason last year and had a solid season with the real bullets flying..but I still want more out of him because of where Whaley selected him. Who knows about Murphy...odds are arthritis has hit his knee by now. Yes. That's why I stated "when healthy." If I had to choose, I would take Lawson. Now depending on the draft, it's entirely possible they keep both. If they take a pass rusher early in the draft, I think one will go and that's where Murphy's health is a major player. I suppose he could bounce back. I've seen a guy coming off injury struggle to stay healthy the following year and then get back to full strength. The fact that he's been oft injured is a major concern though. I do believe he's a solid pass rusher which are hard to come by, which is why I would hesitate to up and cut him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 hours ago, MJS said: Man, everyone loved the Murphy signing before the season. Now everyone acts like they hated theove and Beane should be fired for it. I think he can be an effective pass rusher when healthy. Let's hope he can get healthy and prove everyone right (sentiment from when we first signed him) and everyone wrong (current sentiment). I don't remember loving it, but if you say everyone loved the signing, I guess I did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brianthomas Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 2 hours ago, MJS said: Man, everyone loved the Murphy signing before the season. Now everyone acts like they hated theove and Beane should be fired for it. I think he can be an effective pass rusher when healthy. Let's hope he can get healthy and prove everyone right (sentiment from when we first signed him) and everyone wrong (current sentiment). Not everyone, I never liked it. I didnt like the Ivory signing or Star signing either. All these bloated contracts for what amount to average players boggles the mind while you simultaneously try to undo those same types of contracts. Although Ivory's isn't that bloated, but you can definitely get what he brings for much cheaper. Perhaps some people were just hopeful given what Murphy did the year before in Washington & how he'd be lined up opposite Hughes. Perhaps others were just happy we signed someone. Gotta also remember that just about everyone before the season here was thinking playoffs last year as well. While not considering all the dead cap we ate & how unrealistic doing both would be. Such is the life of a Bills fan, glass is always half full when you Billieve until you smash it at the wall later. However I will trust the process thru this next season. I still think we're in a better position now than we have been in a long time. And i hope Trent has a great season for sure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Codyny13 Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I think he’ll be better this year. Got the comeback year under his belt, I expect 7 sacks if he’s healthy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Isn't there NO PENALTY if the Bills cut him? Tell me if I am wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estro Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 Very little. He looked slow, stiff, and small last season. I couldn't believe how lean he looked late in the season. Might explain his PED use, he looks like a guy that really struggles to keep his weight up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted February 13, 2019 Share Posted February 13, 2019 I expect him to be the most forgettable (high expectation) player on the roster and be hurt 10-12 weeks next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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