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11 hours ago, Mark Vader said:

 

 

He's the most important player on your offense and he's not being used in the biggest game of the year.

 

If your RB is the most important player on your offense you don't have an offense. Bills fans should understand this.

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2 hours ago, Coach Tuesday said:

So weird.

 

To me this game came down to the fact that the Rams are a new team with a fickle fanbase that didn't really travel for the game.  The Patriots' fans were there in droves and they were loud - it felt like a Patriots home game.  When the Rams were on offense it was loud, and it definitely impacted their ability to execute.  Couple that with the fact that they're younger and perhaps less mentally tough (specifically, players like Goff and Gurley) and the result was not surprising.

Is a coach saying that a neutral field crowd is the main reason a team won or lost?  Never expected you to say such a thing

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25 minutes ago, QCity said:

 

If your RB is the most important player on your offense you don't have an offense. Bills fans should understand this.

Are you saying that Todd Gurley is not the most important player on the Rams offense?

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My guess is it's a very painful, maybe even torn, Achilles tendon or a doctor suggesting it's going to happen.  

 

It has to be some outcome, that if it reaches a certain point, instantly means he's lost for an entire season.  An achilles rupture would do that.  

 

If it was a knee you'd see it.  If it was headaches or migraines, he probably wouldn't tolerate being under all those lights.

 

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Maybe the Rams' coaches were just doing what many coaches (including every Bills coach in this millennium) have done against Bill Bellichcik? That is, over-think and as a result tie their own hands. You know, the classic "Bill will expect us to run the ball with Todd, so let's do something else he will never expect..."

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5 hours ago, Elite Poster said:

They stopped running from 11 personnel. Gurley wasn't special until McVay started scheming for him. 

 

 

Gurley was a beast his rookie year for Fisher.  Year 2 their best WRs were Kenny Britt and Brian Quick with a rookie QB, he was facing stacked boxes all year.

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2 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

I honestly don’t think of him as an elite RB.

 

He faced so many 6 man fronts, more than any other RB in the league.  That’s a huge advantage.  

 

I of course think hes good but I wouldn’t put him in the elite category.  

 

NE has a strong secondary - and weren't afraid to man up woods/cooks 1x1 with gilmore.  Coupling that with double teams on the other one in man coverage, and loading the box with linemen - it was a situation where they couldn't run and PA would have no effect on their coverages.  

 

They needed to adjust the gameplan to something more spread out to take advantage of the matchups, force 1x1s instead of allowing them to double guys like Woods.

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14 hours ago, klos63 said:

but he wasn't listed on the injury report. Will be interesting to find out what was going on.

Robert Woods played with a torn groin for the Bills and wasn't listed. Hogan played with torn wrist ligaments for the Bills and wasn't listed. Injury reports are a joke.


Gurley is clearly injured. Even in the Dallas game, where he put up impressive numbers, he didn't have many touches. Anderson had nearly twice as many rushes that game.

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18 hours ago, TheFunPolice said:

His knee is messed up.... ACL injury but being used as a decoy

 

That's my bet

That's the story here in LA.  McCray was aware of the injury but still wanted to get something out of Gurley. This story could blow up in McV's face. There's also reports of a conflict because of this. Gurley had knee issues in college and some stated he won't last 5 years with this knee condition. Everyone is waiting for a press release within 48 hrs.

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That makes a ton of sense. There was talk that after week 1 that his knee hurt so bad he wanted to give all the guaranteed money back and stop playing. 

 

Then the comments from his RB coach during SB week hinted at a long term concern of managing Gurley’s workload. 

 

I’m moving off of him this year in fantasy, I’m going to have to keep someone else. Having your best player on a pitch count all season is going to be frustrating. 

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13 minutes ago, plenzmd1 said:

yowzer...didnt he get like $40 guaranteed?

Meh, Rams can make that $40.00 back with one sale of beer at the game. 

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https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/03/02/report-todd-gurley-has-arthritis-in-knee/

 

Todd Gurley surely has something wrong with his left knee, no matter how aggressively the Rams will try to deny it. A new report has provided the first concrete diagnosis.

Jeff Howe of TheAthletic.com reports that Gurley has arthritis in the knee.

 
It’s the same knee that underwent an ACL repair in 2014. If the report is accurate, what will the Rams do about it? Coach Sean McVay discussed stem-cell treatment options for the knee this week at the Scouting Combine. If Gurley has arthritis that comes from a loss of cartilage, microfracture surgery presumably would be a possibility. However, the Rams have said that Gurley won’t have surgery.

The good news for Gurley, but the bad news for the Rams, is that Gurley’s contract gives him a high degree of financial security. As of the third day of the 2019 league year, he’ll have $34.5 million fully guaranteed and another $9.5 million still guaranteed for injury.

So the overriding question is whether and to what extent the Rams will get a return on their $45 million injury-guaranteed investment in Gurley. He generated more than 1,800 yards from scrimmage through the first 14 games of the year, but then it all started to fall apart for Gurley, with two missed regular-season games, a solid performance in the divisional round against Dallas, and two lackluster showings in the NFC title game and Super Bowl LIII.

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Not a surprise, but also not a career killer, at least for a few years.   Anyone with a serious knee injury is going to be a candidate for arthritis at some point. 

 

If every NFL player who ever had an arthritic knee were considered 'damaged goods', the league wouldn't have enough players to fill 32 rosters...

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Everybody praised the Rams for being proactive and extending Gurley's contract early. 

After seeing CJ Anderson offer superior production when he went in and now seeing Gurley's potential long-term knee troubles, that early extension suddenly doesn't seem like such a good idea.

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1 minute ago, Logic said:

Everybody praised the Rams for being proactive and extending Gurley's contract early. 

After seeing CJ Anderson offer superior production when he went in and now seeing Gurley's potential long-term knee troubles, that early extension suddenly doesn't seem like such a good idea.

 

Prob depends on how the deal is structured. Goeff is still on his rookie deal, so if they front loaded Gurley, it would make the last years of the deal cheaper for the qb contract, than waiting to resign him when his contract expires.

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2 hours ago, Bills2ref said:

Wouldn’t be shocked to see the Rams draft a RB in rounds 1-3 

Why when you can find a good one in the late rounds or even as a UDFA? Or even off the scrap heap late in the year like they did in Anderson

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1 minute ago, matter2003 said:

Why when you can find a good one in the late rounds or even as a UDFA? Or even off the scrap heap late in the year like they did in Anderson

Well, if you want a gamebreaker like Gurley is (was?) then you rarely find one of those in UDFA. IMO this would be a pretty good year for the Rams to try to grab one. They seemingly don’t have a super lot of holes to have to fill through free agency and the draft. 

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Just now, Bills2ref said:

Well, if you want a gamebreaker like Gurley is (was?) then you rarely find one of those in UDFA. IMO this would be a pretty good year for the Rams to try to grab one. They seemingly don’t have a super lot of holes to have to fill through free agency and the draft. 

Priest Holmes and Terrell Davis come to mind but other than that you are probably right...

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