GRHater69 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Kelly took some heat early on from Rob Riddick for always looking downfield and ignoring checkdowns to the RBs etc. It wasn't until Thurman got here that he seemed to listen to that advice. Josh does that too. Not even going to begin to think that's what Kelly is going to talk to him about, but it's something I noticed about the two QBs that was similar at this stage of their careers. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: I have a lot of respect for Kelly and his cancer battle, but I really don't need him telling Josh Allen all of the things in Kelly's mind, that he is doing wrong. I might feel different if Allen sought him out for advice, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The guy can't seem to let go. Allen will end up being a head case. He has coaches telling him what to do, Palmer telling him what to do & now Kelly wants to tell him what he needs to do. BN: What do you think of Josh Allen? JK: I think he’s the real deal. He needs the quarterback coach, the offensive coordinator to get in his mind. I have already talked to him and told him we need to sit down this offseason. ... I need to tell him some things that I saw that he was not doing that he needs to make sure are instilled in his mind, that I don't know if he's been told. I never want to tramp on anybody's feet right, but we'll sit down, I'll go over some things with him. (Kelly said he intends to give the specifics to Allen rather than making them public.) I'm excited about him because his personality is what you need in Buffalo. He's a hardworking SOB. It’s everything I love to see, but he can't do it alone. https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/25/buffalo-bills-jim-kelly-josh-allen-pro-bowl-kyle-williams-one-on-one-coverage-vic-carucci-nfl-football/ OK...I disagree...we saw how much he improved once they got Anderson and Barkley there to mentor him...why would you not want Kelly mentoring him who is a HOF QB instead of 2 journeymen? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 He's met with almost every QB here since he retired. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: I understand you’re point, but one conversation isn’t going to kill JA. It’s not that he won’t let it go, he just wants a Bills winner. I believe he has his best interests at heart. Its not as if Allen hasn’t been given advice from others. It’s also not like Kelly is trying to coach him or have multiple conversations with him. Exactly. Christ if we sat down bar next to Josh we all give him advice. Coming from HOF quarterback can't be bad. I say the more advice he gets from people like that the better. He smart enough to know what will work for him and what won't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 37 minutes ago, whatdrought said: I've never played NFL QB, but i imagine it's like most things in life where you listen/digest hundreds of hours of "how it should be done" and then you go out and get your own hours of "how it is done." Listening to Kelly is just part of the process and it will help Allen. It's beyond me why anyone would think Josh having a conversation with Jim would be a bad thing. It's not like Jim is lobbying for a coaching position. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, GRHater69 said: Kelly took some heat early on from Rob Riddick for always looking downfield and ignoring checkdowns to the RBs etc. It wasn't until Thurman got here that he seemed to listen to that advice. Josh does that too. Not even going to begin to think that's what Kelly is going to talk to him about, but it's something I noticed about the two QBs that was similar at this stage of their careers. good post ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 54 minutes ago, teef said: this whole thing sounds a little molesty. Well......maybe if you lean that way...... It wasn’t MY first thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Just now, Augie said: Well......maybe if you lean that way...... It wasn’t MY first thought. But now you can't stop thinking about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3rdand12 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 minute ago, SinceThe70s said: It's beyond me why anyone would think Josh having a conversation with Jim would be a bad thing. It's not like Jim is lobbying for a coaching position. I think the point was that getting advice and pointers from too many angles might overwhelm the Kid. seem the response here has been that Josh can handle the task. Go Bills 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Our previous HOF QB wants to talk to our future of the franchise who is going into his first full offseason with the team to try and help the kid out? Yeah, that's not a bad thing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, The Drought said: But now you can't stop thinking about it. I’m keeping the lights on, if that’s what you mean... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyNoodles Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I don't care if Kelly wants to talk to him, but why is this in the news. Can't the old guard just go about their business quietly. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBill Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, LabattBlue said: I have a lot of respect for Kelly and his cancer battle, but I really don't need him telling Josh Allen all of the things in Kelly's mind, that he is doing wrong. I might feel different if Allen sought him out for advice, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The guy can't seem to let go. Allen will end up being a head case. He has coaches telling him what to do, Palmer telling him what to do & now Kelly wants to tell him what he needs to do. BN: What do you think of Josh Allen? JK: I think he’s the real deal. He needs the quarterback coach, the offensive coordinator to get in his mind. I have already talked to him and told him we need to sit down this offseason. ... I need to tell him some things that I saw that he was not doing that he needs to make sure are instilled in his mind, that I don't know if he's been told. I never want to tramp on anybody's feet right, but we'll sit down, I'll go over some things with him. (Kelly said he intends to give the specifics to Allen rather than making them public.) I'm excited about him because his personality is what you need in Buffalo. He's a hardworking SOB. It’s everything I love to see, but he can't do it alone. https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/25/buffalo-bills-jim-kelly-josh-allen-pro-bowl-kyle-williams-one-on-one-coverage-vic-carucci-nfl-football/ You’re overreacting. JK is not looking to mess the kid up he just wants to offer some insights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, machine gun kelly said: I understand you’re point, but one conversation isn’t going to kill JA. It’s not that he won’t let it go, he just wants a Bills winner. I believe he has his best interests at heart. Its not as if Allen hasn’t been given advice from others. It’s also not like Kelly is trying to coach him or have multiple conversations with him. This. Josh will take what Kelly tells him back to Jordan Palmer and David Culley and let them react to it. If they agree, it will be incorporated into the coaching that he's already receiving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) If it helps beat the freaking Cheaters ....... Edited January 28, 2019 by DCbillsfan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 26 minutes ago, Augie said: Well......maybe if you lean that way...... It wasn’t MY first thought. 24 minutes ago, The Drought said: But now you can't stop thinking about it. It’s pretty apparent the The Drought just gets people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillnutinHouston Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 1 hour ago, atlbillsfan1975 said: Jim can give some great advice on being a leader and team mate relationships. Interesting take. I happen to think these are the things Allen DOESN'T need advice about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSHMEAB Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 minutes ago, TigerJ said: This. Josh will take what Kelly tells him back to Jordan Palmer and David Culley and let them react to it. If they agree, it will be incorporated into the coaching that he's already receiving. I really doubt it's that serious. That actually would be a problem. Hey, Jim told me to do this? Should I listen to him? What aspects were good? What aspects should I toss? I feel like this is getting jussssst a bit overblown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#34fan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buffalo716 said: Jim Kelly gives you relationship advice... maybe you pass... Jim Kelly wants to give you football advice... you show up with a hard on and a notebook Maybe... Just a notebook. Hell, if he can spend two weeks with Jordan Palmer, -He can at least have a conversation with #12. Edited January 28, 2019 by #34fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I have a lot of respect for Kelly and his cancer battle, but I really don't need him telling Josh Allen all of the things in Kelly's mind, that he is doing wrong. I might feel different if Allen sought him out for advice, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The guy can't seem to let go. Allen will end up being a head case. He has coaches telling him what to do, Palmer telling him what to do & now Kelly wants to tell him what he needs to do. BN: What do you think of Josh Allen? JK: I think he’s the real deal. He needs the quarterback coach, the offensive coordinator to get in his mind. I have already talked to him and told him we need to sit down this offseason. ... I need to tell him some things that I saw that he was not doing that he needs to make sure are instilled in his mind, that I don't know if he's been told. I never want to tramp on anybody's feet right, but we'll sit down, I'll go over some things with him. (Kelly said he intends to give the specifics to Allen rather than making them public.) I'm excited about him because his personality is what you need in Buffalo. He's a hardworking SOB. It’s everything I love to see, but he can't do it alone. https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/25/buffalo-bills-jim-kelly-josh-allen-pro-bowl-kyle-williams-one-on-one-coverage-vic-carucci-nfl-football/ If talking to a HOF Qb, who was at the helm of one of the most prolific offenses in the history of the game, who knows as much about pressure in the big game as any many alive, who has tasted incredible success and the crushing sting of defeat, who likely has gained perspective on the relative importance of football v. life is going to ruin JA, well then JA is no JK. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mickey Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I'd love to know what he saw in Josh's game that he so strongly feels needs to be changed. More touch? Use the TE's more? Launch it earlier? Run less? Never pay retail? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 3 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I have a lot of respect for Kelly and his cancer battle, but I really don't need him telling Josh Allen all of the things in Kelly's mind, that he is doing wrong. I might feel different if Allen sought him out for advice, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The guy can't seem to let go. Allen will end up being a head case. He has coaches telling him what to do, Palmer telling him what to do & now Kelly wants to tell him what he needs to do. BN: What do you think of Josh Allen? JK: I think he’s the real deal. He needs the quarterback coach, the offensive coordinator to get in his mind. I have already talked to him and told him we need to sit down this offseason. ... I need to tell him some things that I saw that he was not doing that he needs to make sure are instilled in his mind, that I don't know if he's been told. I never want to tramp on anybody's feet right, but we'll sit down, I'll go over some things with him. (Kelly said he intends to give the specifics to Allen rather than making them public.) I'm excited about him because his personality is what you need in Buffalo. He's a hardworking SOB. It’s everything I love to see, but he can't do it alone. https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/25/buffalo-bills-jim-kelly-josh-allen-pro-bowl-kyle-williams-one-on-one-coverage-vic-carucci-nfl-football/ I know the nerve of Kelly trying to act like he knows what he is talking about. Dude acts like hes was a HOF NFL QB or something. Hopefully JA doesnt listen to him. JA really needs to track down Jeff Tuel or Trent Edwards for advice on what he needs to do. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klos63 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Call_Of_Ktulu said: Jim Kelly called his own plays in the fastest pace no huddle offense that I have ever seen. He broke down the defense and called his own plays that were usually the perfect offensive play call. The knowledge that Kelly could give Allen would be invaluable. Jim Kelly, Bruce Smith, Thurman Thomas, Daryl Tally and Andre Reed are fans of the Bills and want them to do well. I would say if any of these guys wanted to help out that they should have a green light to do so. Kelly also had an offense with 4 HOF'ers and I think 10 players that made the pro bowl. Let's get Allen some talent around him and he'll be just fine. That should be up to the coaching staff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I would love the BB to win the super bowl in JK's lifetime. My father's lifetime too.... aint many years left. Get it done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, The Drought said: He's met with almost every QB here since he retired. I changed my mind, dont allow it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 2 hours ago, /dev/null said: Never a good sign when you're called to a sit down Christopher, don’t say a thing!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowgirlsFan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Sounds like a decent plan to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 I’ve seen some egregiously questionable hot takes made into threads around here, but this one is...special. A lot of other posters here have already pointed out just how special, so I won’t pile on the OP. But SMH ??♂️. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills1212 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I have a lot of respect for Kelly and his cancer battle, but I really don't need him telling Josh Allen all of the things in Kelly's mind, that he is doing wrong. I might feel different if Allen sought him out for advice, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The guy can't seem to let go. Allen will end up being a head case. He has coaches telling him what to do, Palmer telling him what to do & now Kelly wants to tell him what he needs to do. BN: What do you think of Josh Allen? JK: I think he’s the real deal. He needs the quarterback coach, the offensive coordinator to get in his mind. I have already talked to him and told him we need to sit down this offseason. ... I need to tell him some things that I saw that he was not doing that he needs to make sure are instilled in his mind, that I don't know if he's been told. I never want to tramp on anybody's feet right, but we'll sit down, I'll go over some things with him. (Kelly said he intends to give the specifics to Allen rather than making them public.) I'm excited about him because his personality is what you need in Buffalo. He's a hardworking SOB. It’s everything I love to see, but he can't do it alone. https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/25/buffalo-bills-jim-kelly-josh-allen-pro-bowl-kyle-williams-one-on-one-coverage-vic-carucci-nfl-football/ Uuhhh... you do know most humans have on avg 23 different conversations a day right? And thats just the avg taking into account some people are in exhile or solitary and some are telemarketers. Id venture to guess professional football players often have conversations about... yep, you guessed it - football!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Or the things he tells him will be valuable and help him develop... You have no idea what you are talking about. Ridiculous OP that has no bearing on reality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I have a lot of respect for Kelly and his cancer battle, but I really don't need him telling Josh Allen all of the things in Kelly's mind, that he is doing wrong. I might feel different if Allen sought him out for advice, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The guy can't seem to let go. Allen will end up being a head case. He has coaches telling him what to do, Palmer telling him what to do & now Kelly wants to tell him what he needs to do. BN: What do you think of Josh Allen? JK: I think he’s the real deal. He needs the quarterback coach, the offensive coordinator to get in his mind. I have already talked to him and told him we need to sit down this offseason. ... I need to tell him some things that I saw that he was not doing that he needs to make sure are instilled in his mind, that I don't know if he's been told. I never want to tramp on anybody's feet right, but we'll sit down, I'll go over some things with him. (Kelly said he intends to give the specifics to Allen rather than making them public.) I'm excited about him because his personality is what you need in Buffalo. He's a hardworking SOB. It’s everything I love to see, but he can't do it alone. https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/25/buffalo-bills-jim-kelly-josh-allen-pro-bowl-kyle-williams-one-on-one-coverage-vic-carucci-nfl-football/ What is wrong with Kelly, a Hall of Famer, sharing insight with a young man who is trying to navigate what he has already done successfully? Where I'm from we call that Mentorship. Same as Bruce Smith mentoring Miles Garrett, or other people who are experienced in various industries taking less experienced people under their wing. Edited January 28, 2019 by purple haze 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) I think the OP has a point. All due respect to Jim, the game he is trying to give Allen advice on is not the same. It’s not even close. Maybe it doesn’t do any harm per say but why are we reading about this.....AGAIN? We know Jim loves football and Buffalo and we love him. But I get where the original poster is coming from. This is like the 3rd-4th straight QB Jim “needed” to speak with. Its a bit undermining to leadership even if the staff would never say it. Its a bit “keep me in the spotlight” even if Bills fans wouldn’t like to say it. If this wasn’t the case why doesn’t Jim privately schedule his conversation? Why do I always hear about his need to speak with our QB’s in the media first. Edited January 28, 2019 by KzooMike 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Senator Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 (edited) Maybe Jim just wants to give him some advice about the restaurant business. . Edited January 28, 2019 by The Senator Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 Why do some look for negatives in any situation? This is no harm, no foul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptnCoke11 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 High level sit down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 9 hours ago, N.Y. Orangeman said: Work on Chad first 8 hours ago, 3rdand12 said: ouch ‘You can pick your friends, but you can’t pick your relatives...’ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyteDwarf Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 10 hours ago, berg1029 said: Nothing wrong with listening to Jim Kelly. After all, he may know a thing or two. I hear he went to four super bowls in a row. I hear that he lost 4 SB's in a row. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 If I were Josh Allen I'd ask to sit down with Jim Kelly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 8 hours ago, JimmyNoodles said: I don't care if Kelly wants to talk to him, but why is this in the news. Can't the old guard just go about their business quietly. Yes, why bother with people who made it work, far better to stay in the muck of 20 years of high suckitude Maybe bring in Flutie so Allen can be instructed in failure and unending self-pity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 28, 2019 Share Posted January 28, 2019 11 hours ago, LabattBlue said: I have a lot of respect for Kelly and his cancer battle, but I really don't need him telling Josh Allen all of the things in Kelly's mind, that he is doing wrong. I might feel different if Allen sought him out for advice, but that doesn't seem to be the case. The guy can't seem to let go. Allen will end up being a head case. He has coaches telling him what to do, Palmer telling him what to do & now Kelly wants to tell him what he needs to do. BN: What do you think of Josh Allen? JK: I think he’s the real deal. He needs the quarterback coach, the offensive coordinator to get in his mind. I have already talked to him and told him we need to sit down this offseason. ... I need to tell him some things that I saw that he was not doing that he needs to make sure are instilled in his mind, that I don't know if he's been told. I never want to tramp on anybody's feet right, but we'll sit down, I'll go over some things with him. (Kelly said he intends to give the specifics to Allen rather than making them public.) I'm excited about him because his personality is what you need in Buffalo. He's a hardworking SOB. It’s everything I love to see, but he can't do it alone. https://buffalonews.com/2019/01/25/buffalo-bills-jim-kelly-josh-allen-pro-bowl-kyle-williams-one-on-one-coverage-vic-carucci-nfl-football/ I've been saying (and getting flamed for it) for years how sick I am of Kelly, Reed and Thomas being around the team. They had their chance to be champions and they blew it in historical fashion. Let the current players/coaches do their things and go find a hobby. Unless the HC approaches Kelly and asks him to speak to Josh Allen, then Kelly should mind his own business and stay out of Allen's ear. I'm sure he means well, but he needs to go dance on his own pole and let the CURRENT Bills do their jobs. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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