Dadonkadonk Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 It is now quite apparent that the win now and in the future was complete BS. This 2018 team was not constructed to win. I would contend that with TT and Richie this team would be in the hunt for a WC and an outside shot at the division with the Patriots coming to town. But McBeane were determined to blow up the roster and blow it up they have. So with Allen, Edmunds, and Star's play to date are you ok with the lost 2018 season. You can add in the nice find of Foster but also need to factor in that Zay is now 14 games closer to being a total bust and waste of multiple picks. Because this lost season and another wasted defense is the cost of drafting and developing Allen/Edmunds. For me, Allen is exactly what I thought he would be but I would have preferred him sitting behind TT and a shot at the playoffs in 2018. I simply don't trust McBeane to rebuild the offense. But as I've said before, if they found the franchise leaders in Allen/Edmunds then it is worth the lost 2018 season. But I live in Portland and only spend money for Sunday Ticket and travelled to Green Bay. What say you season ticket holders? 1 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFergy Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 LAMRI (Look At My Regurgitated Information) 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RaoulDuke79 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I'm fine with this season as long as there is marked improvement next year, which I think there will be. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 It wasn't lost at all. Rookie contributions have been big. Milano turned into a legit pro bowler, Tre White has turned into a legit all-pro... Bills have tons of cap space and draft picks to improve a lot in the off-season. 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malazan Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Dadonkadonk said: It is now quite apparent that the win now and in the future was complete BS. This 2018 team was not constructed to win. I would contend that with TT and Richie this team would be in the hunt for a WC and an outside shot at the division with the Patriots coming to town. Even when they went to the playoffs, McDermott and Beane cautioned that there were tough times ahead so I'm not sure they were preaching "Win now and the future". You say the 2018 was not constructed to win, but with TT and Ritchie they would be? If so, the Ritchie situation was entirely out the Bills hands. He lost his mind. Josh Allen has been better than TT so I'm not sure why TT would have been "constructed to win" Your whole post seems to be conflicting.. Anyways, I'm fine with how the year has played out. This was always going to be a year that hurt, but I think we've seen some surprising contributions from unexpected players. There hasn't been finger pointing or players bitching which is impressive. McDermott seems to have instilled the type of culture needed to win. Edited December 20, 2018 by jeremy2020 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerlyofCtown Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) I stand in the place where it's not a lost season. It was a productive season toward a rebuild. We discovered some diamonds in the rough and a lot of players got a chance they may not have gotten to gain experience. In other years we may have cut Foster and not picked up McKenzie. Our rookie QB has gained a lot of experience. I also have a more positive outlook on the future than when we made the playoffs with TT. Edited December 20, 2018 by formerlyofCtown 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boater Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Would be better posted as a poll. Think hard on the individual choices. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Sucks cause I hate wasting a season but I predicted 5 wins so I’ll be close or right on. I love the potential in Allen so overall I’m more positive then negative. Although I’m still not sure about Mcd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Billieve Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I don't get too worked up about the preseason. 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 When Josh Allen goes into New England and whoops up on Tom Brady, you'll understand what's really going on here. He's got the goods and he's gonna show it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 It sounds weird, but it’s been the best losing season ever. I never lost interest - the development of Allen has made every game fun. And I think we can all feel it. The division IS about to change hands. It’s not some dreamy fantasy. 17 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I'm good with where things stand. Bills got a qb with a crazy ceiling to develop along with a linebacker who also has massive upside. They cleaned the cap sheet will go into next season with picks and plenty of money to spend. Last two drafts so far look very solid. Patriots are getting old, Miami seems rudderless and the Jets rebuild sure doesn't look any further ahead than it was. Pre free agency/draft the Bills seem to be trending up. They have a good free agency and we could be a long term play off contender starting next season 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I guess I'm not allowed to comment since I don't have seasons. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv's Neighbor Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Is it still going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Everyone wanted a franchise QB. Everyone said they were fine with giving him time to develop. So what's the issue? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyWhiteShows Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 2018 was AAA. All About Allen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Tuhrod would have made no difference. The lack of running game and his inability to throw past the sticks would have made the Bills unwatchable. Richie went batshit crazy, so let's all please stop with the irrational Richie love. The real reason this season went down the tubes was the irrational Peterman love and the AJ McCarron trade. Not having an experienced backup QB doomed us to failure. Josh Allen came as advertised, with a cannon arm and otherworldly athletic ability. Most exciting Bills QB since Flutie. The future's so bright, I gotta wear shades. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Josh is getting better. Love McKenzie. Foster looks really good. Milano continued to shine. Wallace deserves credit for becoming a starter. Please extend Barkley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Sucks when you look forward to something so much and end up disappointed. If Allen ends up being good then it’s all good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I usually stand in section 125, but I skipped the last game because $6 tix bring out the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PlayoffsPlease Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 The season could have been much better. If McDermott had committed fully to Allen at the beginning of camp and spent the entire season focused on Allen, he would be further along and the team might even be in the playoff hunt. This season is a failure as a direct results of the Peterman debacle. This season has to be McDermott's mulligan. If next seasons is a a debacle, I don't want to hear about progress the team is making. If the Bills do not win a playoff came next season, I will consider the McDermott reign a failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Dude Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 At least Josh looks better than I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greeneblitz Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 It was awesome except for the 4 games without watching Allen, it's the season that we've been missing for 20 years, the one where we are truly rebuilding starting with putting up with our rookie franchise QBs "learning" season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mead107 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Dadonkadonk said: It is now quite apparent that the win now and in the future was complete BS. This 2018 team was not constructed to win. I would contend that with TT and Richie this team would be in the hunt for a WC and an outside shot at the division with the Patriots coming to town. But McBeane were determined to blow up the roster and blow it up they have. So with Allen, Edmunds, and Star's play to date are you ok with the lost 2018 season. You can add in the nice find of Foster but also need to factor in that Zay is now 14 games closer to being a total bust and waste of multiple picks. Because this lost season and another wasted defense is the cost of drafting and developing Allen/Edmunds. For me, Allen is exactly what I thought he would be but I would have preferred him sitting behind TT and a shot at the playoffs in 2018. I simply don't trust McBeane to rebuild the offense. But as I've said before, if they found the franchise leaders in Allen/Edmunds then it is worth the lost 2018 season. But I live in Portland and only spend money for Sunday Ticket and travelled to Green Bay. What say you season ticket holders? So you are not a season ticket holder? We are a young growing team. Tt 60 yard games awesome. Glad he is gone. I will keep my season tickets. Growing pains going to happen. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boca BIlls Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Dadonkadonk said: It is now quite apparent that the win now and in the future was complete BS. This 2018 team was not constructed to win. I would contend that with TT and Richie this team would be in the hunt for a WC and an outside shot at the division with the Patriots coming to town. But McBeane were determined to blow up the roster and blow it up they have. So with Allen, Edmunds, and Star's play to date are you ok with the lost 2018 season. You can add in the nice find of Foster but also need to factor in that Zay is now 14 games closer to being a total bust and waste of multiple picks. Because this lost season and another wasted defense is the cost of drafting and developing Allen/Edmunds. For me, Allen is exactly what I thought he would be but I would have preferred him sitting behind TT and a shot at the playoffs in 2018. I simply don't trust McBeane to rebuild the offense. But as I've said before, if they found the franchise leaders in Allen/Edmunds then it is worth the lost 2018 season. But I live in Portland and only spend money for Sunday Ticket and travelled to Green Bay. What say you season ticket holders? Lost cause for playoffs in 2018 with TT, he will never take another team there again... he wouldnt have sniffed the playoffs this year and Josh would still be unknown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 4 minutes ago, The_Dude said: At least Josh looks better than I expected. When this NFL season comes to a close...I would much rather be in our situation than I would the Patriots. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 After we got into the playoffs last year, I thought "This could be the start of something good!" Then we lost the better half of our starting OL and traded away our QB. And then I noticed we had the lowest paid roster in the entire NFL." And so on. So I decided to treat this year like a very long preseason for 2019 and watch what the young players offer and how they develop. I'm not disappointed. McD's club shows a lot of teamwork and grit. The younger players are getting better. The D is ranked #2 in the NFL. And we have an immense amount of cap space to build a better offense next season. I guess "lost season" isn't a bad way to describe the 2018 Bills. But this was a necessary step to a good 2019 squad. I'm feeling cautiously optimistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhickedWilliams Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, Dadonkadonk said: It is now quite apparent that the win now and in the future was complete BS. This 2018 team was not constructed to win. I would contend that with TT and Richie this team would be in the hunt for a WC and an outside shot at the division with the Patriots coming to town. But McBeane were determined to blow up the roster and blow it up they have. So with Allen, Edmunds, and Star's play to date are you ok with the lost 2018 season. You can add in the nice find of Foster but also need to factor in that Zay is now 14 games closer to being a total bust and waste of multiple picks. Because this lost season and another wasted defense is the cost of drafting and developing Allen/Edmunds. For me, Allen is exactly what I thought he would be but I would have preferred him sitting behind TT and a shot at the playoffs in 2018. I simply don't trust McBeane to rebuild the offense. But as I've said before, if they found the franchise leaders in Allen/Edmunds then it is worth the lost 2018 season. But I live in Portland and only spend money for Sunday Ticket and travelled to Green Bay. What say you season ticket holders? Richie.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 (edited) Pretty much what I had expected. Terrible OL. Terrible WRs. Raw Rookie QB. Solid defense. Jerry Hughes was my favorite player and is our mvp. What i didn’t expect: +Robert Foster, Isiah McKenzie, Levi Wallace to play wel enough that I would consider them possible core players. Especially Foster. McKenzie needs to fix his fumbles. Wallace has been exactly what we needed opposite Tre. Eager to see him vs brady. + Matt Milano to become the second coming of Takeo Spikes. Kid is a baller. I had high hopes but he’s already hit what I though would be his ceiling. +Taron Johnson becoming an undercover star. Hopefully he can put some weight on and let injuries to become habit +Josh Allen. He gives me hope. Lots of it. Better than I would’ve imagined + Jerrry Hughes was our best player imo. Lorax is an enigma and can play for 3 more years in my books. Love that guy - Dawkins has refreshed playing with lesser talent on the OL. He and Teller should be our guards next season im happy with the season. Would’ve been nice to make a playoff run, but it wasn’t in the cards. Is we could’ve pulled out wins in the 3 really close games vs the jets, fins and Texans and we’d be playoff contenders. Looking forward to see who we add in free agency and the draft. Edited December 20, 2018 by NewEra 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Another Fan Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Beginning of the year I thought a successful season would be 6 wins while Allen builds that foundation. Looks like that's the case. Also: -Beating the Jaguars at home was sweet. More or less officially putting the dagger into their season. Revenge for last year's playoff game and big mouth Ramsey -We won a close game at home against the Titans. That is a team historically going back to the Music City Miracle we have lost heart breaking/devastating games against. I feel the demons of the Titans have finally been lifted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 1 hour ago, BillsSB2020 said: When Josh Allen goes into New England and whoops up on Tom Brady, you'll understand what's really going on here. He's got the goods and he's gonna show it. Fully erect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I don't consider it really a lost season. The wins this year have been more entertaining to watch for me than the wins last year. Plus this year we got to watch a young QB that looks like the best shot the Bills have had at a potential star player at the position. Lost season? In term of wins and losses only. I have been more entertained this year than watching many games in the past decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 I was expecting this. I was a bit freaked out when they were playing like one of the worst teams ever, but morphed into what i expected. I think they are on the right track, and the past 2 seasons were transition years (playoff run was an unexpected and unplanned fluke). This offseason we will hopefully really see it start to take form Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 This season was pretty much what everyone expected. Nothing much to either remember or to forget. Years from now 2018 will go down as a 16 game gap in the 58 year history of the Buffalo Bills. Yawn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Helpmenow Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Not thrilled, been rebuilding here forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 29 minutes ago, Boca BIlls said: Lost cause for playoffs in 2018 with TT, he will never take another team there again... he wouldnt have sniffed the playoffs this year and Josh would still be unknown. I support all Bills players and I supported Tyrod Taylor. He lead us to the playoffs for the first time in 17 years. I admire his dedication to his craft and dedication to the Buffalo Bills. He's a good man who played his heart out for the Bills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hemma Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 This is so wonderful. Tell us more. Especially about TT leading us to glory. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsSB2020 Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 Just now, hemma said: This is so wonderful. Tell us more. Especially about TT leading us to glory. He didn't lead us to glory but he was a proud Buffalo Bill. I'm glad we have Josh Allen now because he represents the future and he's a better scrambler than Tyrod Taylor and potentially an even better passer than he could dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Joshin' Posted December 20, 2018 Share Posted December 20, 2018 23 minutes ago, Helpmenow said: Not thrilled, been rebuilding here forever. So nothing is different than previous years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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