TigerJ Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 This is an interesting topic to me because It seems to be weakness against weakness and strength versus strength. The Texans have a beat up secondary but are sixth in the league in run defense. Buffalo has had an ineffective passing offense thus far and have been relying on their running game to a large degree. While the Texans have a decimated secondary, they do have a frightening pass rush led by twin athletic freaks JJ Watt and Jadeveon Clowney. How would you attack it? I fear if the Bills approach it like they did last week, relying extensively on the run game, they will in essence be trying to run into a brick wall. The Texans' injury situation is in essence an ivitation to pass the ball. The problem is, the Bills will need to create some sort of blocking scheme that will give Josh Allen a little bit of time with a clear pocket, while Josh is going to have to find it in himself to be at least a little accurate sometimes, and he's going to have to be more aware of his hot reads than he's been and get rid of the ball faster. I know that runs counter to what the Bills have done the last couple weeks, but I think it has to be done if they are going to beat the Texans. What does everybody else think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PearlHowardman Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Easy: Score 13 points hoping that the Buffalo Bills defense can hold the Texans to 12 points. I'm being completely realistic. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 When they let Josh be Josh he plays lose and the team feeds off that energy. Josh scrambling and running helps open things up and I think helps him calm down. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackOrton Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Throw the ball very hard and very fast in the WR’s general direction and hope for the best. 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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TPS Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 49 minutes ago, TigerJ said: This is an interesting topic to me because It seems to be weakness against weakness and strength versus strength. The Texans have a beat up secondary but are sixth in the league in run defense. Buffalo has had an ineffective passing offense thus far and have been relying on their running game to a large degree. While the Texans have a decimated secondary, they do have a frightening pass rush led by twin athletic freaks JJ Watt and Jadeveon Clowney. How would you attack it? I fear if the Bills approach it like they did last week, relying extensively on the run game, they will in essence be trying to run into a brick wall. The Texans' injury situation is in essence an ivitation to pass the ball. The problem is, the Bills will need to create some sort of blocking scheme that will give Josh Allen a little bit of time with a clear pocket, while Josh is going to have to find it in himself to be at least a little accurate sometimes, and he's going to have to be more aware of his hot reads than he's been and get rid of the ball faster. I know that runs counter to what the Bills have done the last couple weeks, but I think it has to be done if they are going to beat the Texans. What does everybody else think? I agree, this is a game where they will need the passing game to win, as well as get TOs to give them good field position. Maybe they'll finally hit the Allen to Foster connection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rocky Landing Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 With the pass rush Allen is going to face, and the weakness of our O-line, Allen should get the ball out of his hands fast. He's not going to get a lot of time to go through reads. I'm expecting a lot of designed short yardage throws to Shady, and Ray Ray. I hope they get Ivory in the passing game, as well. I'm sure not expecting a lot of production out of KB, unless our O-line really surprises and affords Allen more time in the pocket than would be expected. It sure would be nice to see Foster get open downfield, Allen not under throw him, and actually catch the ball. That would be fun to see. Likely? Probably not... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Lightning Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Moving pocket for half field reads, screens, perimeter throws. If his accuracy doesn't improve, slants and short passes over the middle will get batted or bounce off KB and picked. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Expose that beat up secondary. Give Allen quick easy reads. Get lead early and unleash the D 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Don’t get killed by Watt and Hopkins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1st Ammendment NoMas Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 They rolled out Wentz a lot and had him making plays on the move. We need to do this will Allen more and get the TE's involved. I'd like to see Shady and Ivory in the backfield together a lot. I'd really love to see Allen finally hit a deep ball. KB and Zay need to catch everything thrown at them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 hours ago, PearlHowardman said: Easy: Score 13 points hoping that the Buffalo Bills defense can hold the Texans to 12 points. I'm being completely realistic. Don't forget enjoying a +3 turnover ratio for most of the game as well. I know that lowered to +2 before it was over, but that's why we won the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billspro Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I would rely on the quick passing game to move the chains consistently. You still need to get Shady enough quality touch to allow a few big shots with the play action game. It would be a great week for Robert Foster to catch a couple deep balls. I also want Zay Jones to be the focus of the offense this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I'd do a lot of short to medium passes. Get the ball out quickly. Also, help the OT's by chipping on Watt and Clowney. Leave backs and TE's in occasionally too for protection. Run between the tackles to set up play action. Maybe a bigger dose of Ivory than usual. Also, Groy is a better pass blocker, but Bodine is a better run blocker with good strength. Start Bodine. I hope Miller can go. He just played his best game in a while against the Titans. Mills will be blocking Watt who is much stronger. He will need help on a high percentage of plays. Go for deep passes on 2nd and short. Run some screens with Shady. Get Clay the ball unless Mathieu is shadowing him all day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domdab99 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 scoring more points than the Texans. I think that would work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 We need to keep the pass rush off Allen.....run the ball....pick the spots we are going to pass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 6 hours ago, GreggTX said: I'd do a lot of short to medium passes. Get the ball out quickly. Also, help the OT's by chipping on Watt and Clowney. Leave backs and TE's in occasionally too for protection. Run between the tackles to set up play action. Maybe a bigger dose of Ivory than usual. Also, Groy is a better pass blocker, but Bodine is a better run blocker with good strength. Start Bodine. I hope Miller can go. He just played his best game in a while against the Titans. Mills will be blocking Watt who is much stronger. He will need help on a high percentage of plays. Go for deep passes on 2nd and short. Run some screens with Shady. Get Clay the ball unless Mathieu is shadowing him all day. Agreed on almost all points, but I wouldn’t throw deep often. Only a couple of times. I’d rather see more crossing routes from Clay, swing passes to Ivory as he’s prone to getting yards after catch and just let McCoy do his thing. I agree on some TE help with Mills. Even if Clay just chips him and runs his intermediate routes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Maybe our bad wrs can finally have a good game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gjv001 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I sense Clowney and Watt are licking their chops. Would love to see Allen pick Houston's defense apart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Rocky Landing said: With the pass rush Allen is going to face, and the weakness of our O-line, Allen should get the ball out of his hands fast. He's not going to get a lot of time to go through reads. I'm expecting a lot of designed short yardage throws to Shady, and Ray Ray. I hope they get Ivory in the passing game, as well. I'm sure not expecting a lot of production out of KB, unless our O-line really surprises and affords Allen more time in the pocket than would be expected. It sure would be nice to see Foster get open downfield, Allen not under throw him, and actually catch the ball. That would be fun to see. Likely? Probably not... That would require our receivers to get open fast as well... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillies Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Serious (likely dumb) question. Is there any scheme that would allow Bills O to double team BOTH Watt and Clowney nearly EVERY play? I'll try to suggest a few ways, not sure how sound they are: - Double-tight (TEs), maybe empty backfield, 3 WRs (with shady in slot), or 2 WR set with Shady or Ivory in backfield - Single-tight TE (one side), FB in to help with other side - Pulling Guards - WR come down blocks - G/T double on both sides, C takes one DT, FB takes on other - Let one DT go unblocked and hope you can make a move to avoid him, or design play away from Other ways? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jr1 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Bill O'Brien will self-sabotage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 45 minutes ago, gjv001 said: I sense Clowney and Watt are licking their chops. Would love to see Allen pick Houston's defense apart. I agree, run the ball...get the lead and don't go pass happy...EVER in this game! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerJ Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 56 minutes ago, BuffaloBillies said: Serious (likely dumb) question. Is there any scheme that would allow Bills O to double team BOTH Watt and Clowney nearly EVERY play? I'll try to suggest a few ways, not sure how sound they are: - Double-tight (TEs), maybe empty backfield, 3 WRs (with shady in slot), or 2 WR set with Shady or Ivory in backfield - Single-tight TE (one side), FB in to help with other side - Pulling Guards - WR come down blocks - G/T double on both sides, C takes one DT, FB takes on other - Let one DT go unblocked and hope you can make a move to avoid him, or design play away from Other ways? I wouldn't be surprised to see a fair amount of max protect (double TE and the like). As another poster suggested, there could also be a lot of rollouts. I think the Bills might be able to use the screen pass successfully too, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jerome007 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 The Bills beat them last time and made Watt a non-factor by RUNNING, a lot. Often at him too. Probably one of the most run heavy play calling the Bills did at a time when they were already run oriented. I suggest the Bills do the same! Watt and Clowney are no joke if Allen holds the ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Comebackkid Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 We miss Fred Jackson blocking, though Watt may not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 5 hours ago, BuffaloBillies said: Serious (likely dumb) question. Is there any scheme that would allow Bills O to double team BOTH Watt and Clowney nearly EVERY play? I'll try to suggest a few ways, not sure how sound they are: - Double-tight (TEs), maybe empty backfield, 3 WRs (with shady in slot), or 2 WR set with Shady or Ivory in backfield - Single-tight TE (one side), FB in to help with other side - Pulling Guards - WR come down blocks - G/T double on both sides, C takes one DT, FB takes on other - Let one DT go unblocked and hope you can make a move to avoid him, or design play away from Other ways? You take advantage of that aggresiveness by using screens 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlimShady'sSpaceForce Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Run tbe ball, get the guys that actually catch the balls in the game early and have another outstanding defensive effort Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Play to win, don't play not to lose. Go down swinging, play loose, it will completely catch them off guard. Knock them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckyBoys Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Every passing play should have a checkdown option for Allen to have a safety valve. I dont care if he uses the checkdown to a back or te 15 times. Try to set up some screens. One play I dont see the Bills run is that stretch run Peyton Manning ran so well where he'd run to the right and extend the handoff and every so often he's drop back out of that. Show the Texans new wrinkles Get creative w both McCoy and Ivory in the backfield. Lets be honest Ivory is probably the second best option on offense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Get after Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Run Just like Roethlisberger did in his rookie year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 LeShady, and lots of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I'd expect McCoy and even Ivory to see a heavy workload on Sunday. I see another game coming where Josh Allen doesn't even have 20 pass attempts. He needs to be accurate on those pass attempts though to keep the defense honest. Mix in some RPO, some bubble screens, and take three or four deep shots downfield. Hopefully the defense continues their stellar play, we can sneak out a W, and be somewhere no one really expected us to be after 6 weeks which is at .500 on the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Best Player Available Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 This hopefully be the game. When jordan Mills retires at halftime. A couple of Texans are drooling to play against him. it will be a good stat game for JJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 run straight at Watt and Clowney. dink and dunk to stay out of 3rd and long. Be happy with FGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) On 10/11/2018 at 11:30 PM, Bangarang said: Don’t get killed by Watt and Hopkins. Beat these two with an Ivory shaped hammer get Ray Ray more touches. Swing passes to shady Edited October 13, 2018 by Over 29 years of fanhood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Daboll should do what McVay does with Goff and have the offense line up early (i.e. well before the 15 second cutoff) and send an audible in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest K-GunJimKelly12 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 (edited) Maybe I'll be proven wrong tomorrow but this is going to be a close game and the 10 point spread is ridiculous. The Texans are not that good. They lost to the Giants and every game they have played has been close with both their wins coming in overtime. The Bills have a good defense and the Texans despite good numbers from Watson are no juggernaut. They have real trouble running the ball and have been bad in the red zone. If the Bills can script an early drive and get out to an early lead I think they win. Edited October 13, 2018 by K-GunJimKelly12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsredneck1 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, Doc said: Daboll should do what McVay does with Goff and have the offense line up early (i.e. well before the 15 second cutoff) and send an audible in. probably the biggest factor in goff's improvement. i don't know why we can't do that. getting to the line with 5 secs. left leaves no time to read the d and adjust. delay of game flags are inexcusable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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