Steptide Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Yes, we could be the worst team in the NFL. Time will tell, but hear me out a little. Last year against the saints our starting qb went 9/18 for 56 yards. Our defense gave up 280 yards rushing. We lost the game 47-10, and had a late 4th quarter td by none other than nate Peterman. Ironically had Peterman not come in late in the 4th, the final score would've probably been 47-3, at home. Yes, yesterday was horrendous, and a terrible way to start the season, but I don't believe what we saw yesterday is gonna be what we see all season. It'll be really interesting to see how the bills respond next week at home 8 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I hope your right. The coaches and team leaders have to get on some folks though. Some of the play yesterday was inexcusable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The one hope I have right now is that we went through blowouts last year and it didn't end our season. We improved from that 3 game really bad stretch. We will see how this team responds this year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krf139 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Good post. Let's watch the game on Sunday and I think we'll be in better position on how to assess things. By the end of Sunday, we'll see: - Allen start a game (hopefully) - The team play at home - How they respond to a bad loss (last year, they responded quite well) - What adjustments the coaching staff makes after seeing their personnel in regular season action Next week could very well be a disaster too, but let's at least watch the game, see how it plays out and be in a more educated position to make assessments about where we're headed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fadingpain Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 One thing in our favor is that we don't yet know just how good the Ravens are, this year. That changes a lot in the NFL from year to year and who knows, maybe they will be one of the stronger teams in the east this year. Having said that, I suspect they are NOT a powerhouse this year and in fact they represent the easier end of the competition we will face. I am not saying we will get a string of franchise worst defeats this year, but we aren't going to win many games. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quinnearlysghost88 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 you're in the Denial stage of grief. 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 If Peterman remains the starter yesterday isn't a fluke. It's going to be a rough year. But I think this season will be a fluke. In time Bills fans will realize this was a tank season, to prepare for the long term. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxx Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, Steptide said: Yes, we could be the worst team in the NFL. Time will tell, but hear me out a little. Last year against the saints our starting qb went 9/18 for 56 yards. Our defense gave up 280 yards rushing. We lost the game 47-10, and had a late 4th quarter td by none other than nate Peterman. Ironically had Peterman not come in late in the 4th, the final score would've probably been 47-3, at home. Yes, yesterday was horrendous, and a terrible way to start the season, but I don't believe what we saw yesterday is gonna be what we see all season. It'll be really interesting to see how the bills respond next week at home so, your saying it's gonna get worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 23 minutes ago, Steptide said: Yes, we could be the worst team in the NFL. Time will tell, but hear me out a little. Last year against the saints our starting qb went 9/18 for 56 yards. Our defense gave up 280 yards rushing. We lost the game 47-10, and had a late 4th quarter td by none other than nate Peterman. Ironically had Peterman not come in late in the 4th, the final score would've probably been 47-3, at home. Yes, yesterday was horrendous, and a terrible way to start the season, but I don't believe what we saw yesterday is gonna be what we see all season. It'll be really interesting to see how the bills respond next week at home Unfortunately we play tough teams and a lot of them are away games. I honestly think were looking at 0-8 or 1-7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 No, we need to continue to freak out and burn it all down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 We had more talent on both sides of the ball last season. While I don’t expect blowouts like that every week, it’s not going to be pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, Doc said: No, we need to continue to freak out and burn it all down! i like what you're putting out there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soda Popinski Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 You may be right, we'll see after the Chargers/Vikings/Packers games....wait, maybe we'll revisit this after the Tex-er Colt...maybe after tha-CRAP Patriots....Bears/Jets/Jaguars...... Not getting blown out might be the fluke game this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Steptide said: Yes, we could be the worst team in the NFL. Time will tell, but hear me out a little. Last year against the saints our starting qb went 9/18 for 56 yards. Our defense gave up 280 yards rushing. We lost the game 47-10, and had a late 4th quarter td by none other than nate Peterman. Ironically had Peterman not come in late in the 4th, the final score would've probably been 47-3, at home. Yes, yesterday was horrendous, and a terrible way to start the season, but I don't believe what we saw yesterday is gonna be what we see all season. It'll be really interesting to see how the bills respond next week at home Except that Taylor is a better QB than Peterman and the OL wasnt missing 5 Pro Bowls across it through 3 starters no longer here. Anyone who thinks Peterman is better than TT should never post again. It was time for a change and I think Allen has a great future, so glad we traded TT and got back that 3rd round pick. But Peterman is not an NFL QB, period. Big difference. Edited September 10, 2018 by Alphadawg7 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, HappyDays said: If Peterman remains the starter yesterday isn't a fluke. It's going to be a rough year. But I think this season will be a fluke. In time Bills fans will realize this was a tank season, to prepare for the long term. Agreed. And the way they did it is pretty clever (i.e. having $54 million in dead cap). McD can save face and say they tried their hardest with what they had to work with. Getting rid of bad contracts and players that didn't fit their system for draft capital AND subtly setting up your tank by handicapping your team for a season with all that dead money? Double-whammy right there. Edited September 10, 2018 by Capco 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Hate to break it to you. Yesterday was no fluke. We are very young at LB except Lorax; we knew going into the season that we get manhandled in the interior of the OL. We knew this. We knew Juan was going nowhere. We knew the Ravens would stack the box and press up on the receivers. We knew they would have trouble getting open. We knew Peterman scares the bejebus out of everyone when he throws to the perimeter. We knew all of this. Some may have refused to believe it, but we knew it. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stank_Nasty Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) blowouts of that magnitude are kind of an anomaly anymore in a league that has a bunch of parity. so I'd say based off the odds alone, it was flukey. though I do think that if Peterman keeps playing those odds of similar games go up considerably Edited September 10, 2018 by Stank_Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I appreciate the optimism but that wasn’t a fluke. This team is not good and has WAY more holes than last year. The saving grace will be Allen’s development. If he becomes a good QB the record this year won’t matter. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 minute ago, Kirby Jackson said: I appreciate the optimism but that wasn’t a fluke. This team is not good and has WAY more holes than last year. The saving grace will be Allen’s development. If he becomes a good QB the record this year won’t matter. To me that's all I can hope for now. If we go 2-14 or worse but I see Allen develop and has command of the offense; goes out and actually makes great reads and throws and shows he's got this, I'll accept that because then you know what you have to do after that. You have the QB, now just build around him. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 I agree. One game does not decide the season. I think the thing I learned is that the Ravens are for real this year. They spent a lot of money revamping the offense and it appears to have worked for them. And Flacco is healthy and really playing well. They could be a playoff contender. The Bills are a team that can't contend with the big dogs, but are well prepared and coached up to beat the mediocre and bad teams most of the time, at least that's how they were last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Johnson Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 The weather was a huge factor yesterday. The wind and rain made Peterman's noodle arm even more problematic, and the slippery field/ball was part of the reason for the drops and lack of separation. It's not an excuse - obviously both teams had the same circumstances. But in the NFL today with major roster turnover and limited practices it takes all of September to figure out what you have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEraBills Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Flip Johnson said: The weather was a huge factor yesterday. The wind and rain made Peterman's noodle arm even more problematic, and the slippery field/ball was part of the reason for the drops and lack of separation. It's not an excuse - obviously both teams had the same circumstances. But in the NFL today with major roster turnover and limited practices it takes all of September to figure out what you have. Noodle arm is one thing, but not seeing or not throwing to wide open guys is another. There were times Peterman had guys open but he wouldn't pull the trigger. Not sure if he saw them. Is he still living in San Diego? I dunno. Edited September 10, 2018 by NewEraBills Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Go through the schedule and find me 4 wins. Not happening. I will gladly eat crow if they get to 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, Steptide said: Yes, we could be the worst team in the NFL. Time will tell, but hear me out a little. Last year against the saints our starting qb went 9/18 for 56 yards. Our defense gave up 280 yards rushing. We lost the game 47-10, and had a late 4th quarter td by none other than nate Peterman. Ironically had Peterman not come in late in the 4th, the final score would've probably been 47-3, at home. Yes, yesterday was horrendous, and a terrible way to start the season, but I don't believe what we saw yesterday is gonna be what we see all season. It'll be really interesting to see how the bills respond next week at home I think yesterday's performance is very much repeatable. This Oline looked exactly like they did in preseason action against starters. The offense was just as terrible against a starting defense and our defense had no answers. Much like, wait for it.....preseason when playing against first stringers. Everyone was happy to see the big contracts go and "Process" guys coming in. We filled holes with guys who just aren't as good as the players they replaced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan of St Augustine Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Offense was quite offensive but we knew that already. The larger concern was the D which stopped virtually nothing. Top 5 pick coming to Buffalo, next week will be quite telling.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 19 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I appreciate the optimism but that wasn’t a fluke. This team is not good and has WAY more holes than last year. The saving grace will be Allen’s development. If he becomes a good QB the record this year won’t matter. this as well as edmund's development. it looks like most everything else this season will be background noise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capco Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Just now, teef said: this as well as edmund's development. it looks like most everything else this season will be background noise. Yup. I'm praying that these 2 can stay healthy for all 16 games. They will get experience and the rough season will build character. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canadian Bills Fan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 58 minutes ago, Steptide said: Yes, we could be the worst team in the NFL. Time will tell, but hear me out a little. Last year against the saints our starting qb went 9/18 for 56 yards. Our defense gave up 280 yards rushing. We lost the game 47-10, and had a late 4th quarter td by none other than nate Peterman. Ironically had Peterman not come in late in the 4th, the final score would've probably been 47-3, at home. Yes, yesterday was horrendous, and a terrible way to start the season, but I don't believe what we saw yesterday is gonna be what we see all season. It'll be really interesting to see how the bills respond next week at home Well we sure cant be any worse. So there's that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 (edited) Is there a Rasmus Dahlin in the NFL 2019 draft? I have to say that Rasmus Dahlin continues to put a smile on my face, and I am thankful that we have him given what looks to be a very long and depressing football season. Edited September 10, 2018 by Peter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Direhard Fan Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 New "O" Coach was impressive. Bench McCoy and save him for next year. Great new punter. A steal. Need him. "D" will be OK if their not on the field for 45 minutes a game but they will be. A shame. Too many years we have said wait till next year. I only have so many left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jkirchofer Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 59 minutes ago, Fadingpain said: One thing in our favor is that we don't yet know just how good the Ravens are, this year. That changes a lot in the NFL from year to year and who knows, maybe they will be one of the stronger teams in the east this year. Having said that, I suspect they are NOT a powerhouse this year and in fact they represent the easier end of the competition we will face. I am not saying we will get a string of franchise worst defeats this year, but we aren't going to win many games. It is one thing to get picked apart by Drew Brees and a high powered Saints offense but it is another thing to get picked apart by a middle of the road Ravens offense led by Joe Flacco. Just wait until we get Rivers next week and Rodgers in week 4. Lord help us when we get Brady. I think we may see some records set if this is the status quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misterbluesky Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Steptide said: Yes, we could be the worst team in the NFL. Time will tell, but hear me out a little. Last year against the saints our starting qb went 9/18 for 56 yards. Our defense gave up 280 yards rushing. We lost the game 47-10, and had a late 4th quarter td by none other than nate Peterman. Ironically had Peterman not come in late in the 4th, the final score would've probably been 47-3, at home. Yes, yesterday was horrendous, and a terrible way to start the season, but I don't believe what we saw yesterday is gonna be what we see all season. It'll be really interesting to see how the bills respond next week at home After we got our faces pounded in by the Saints last year,we went out to visit the Chargers for another complete beating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 McD is getting pretty good at one thing in Buffalo. Having his team get blown out! But anyway, I'd go ahead and roll with Allen. You could see at the game yesterday, his passes have more velocity than Peterman and get there half second quicker which makes all the difference in the world. Allen's throws from the end zone view had that same look as Flacco's passes. It seems obvious, but when you see it in person the point gets hammered home that Allen has special physical talent. Now, when he can read a defense and have good pocket awareness he'll be a good QB, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Steptide said: Yes, we could be the worst team in the NFL. Time will tell, but hear me out a little. Last year against the saints our starting qb went 9/18 for 56 yards. Our defense gave up 280 yards rushing. We lost the game 47-10, and had a late 4th quarter td by none other than nate Peterman. Ironically had Peterman not come in late in the 4th, the final score would've probably been 47-3, at home. Yes, yesterday was horrendous, and a terrible way to start the season, but I don't believe what we saw yesterday is gonna be what we see all season. It'll be really interesting to see how the bills respond next week at home Denial this really is a bad football team. The biggest concern is ALL the assets put in this defense. And this defense is what this regime Built was EMBARRASSED 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nonprophet Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 Part of the problem is that the wide receivers and tight ends just aren't hungry enough; the training staff should starve them and only give them a portion of food in exchange for a caught ball. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 No its not. McDermott thinks you can pop-gun offense and play defense in 2018. There is nowhere to turn for offense except Josh Allen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
row_33 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, quinnearlysghost88 said: you're in the Denial stage of grief. last year was a total fluke they couldn't even tank it all away Peterman was such garbage they had to put T'Rod back in and even made the playoffs on a fluke Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Over 29 years of fanhood Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Steptide said: Yes, we could be the worst team in the NFL. Time will tell, but hear me out a little. Last year against the saints our starting qb went 9/18 for 56 yards. Our defense gave up 280 yards rushing. We lost the game 47-10, and had a late 4th quarter td by none other than nate Peterman. Ironically had Peterman not come in late in the 4th, the final score would've probably been 47-3, at home. Yes, yesterday was horrendous, and a terrible way to start the season, but I don't believe what we saw yesterday is gonna be what we see all season. It'll be really interesting to see how the bills respond next week at home ‘A bit’? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockpile233 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 As others have said, there have been several blowouts in McDermott’s short tenure. I’m having a hard time thinking this is a fluke. It can’t get much worse than that, but I guess I was way in the wrong to enter this season with optimism. They seem every bit as bad as the most pessimistic fans told me they’d be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4_kidd_4 Posted September 10, 2018 Share Posted September 10, 2018 37 minutes ago, Stank_Nasty said: blowouts of that magnitude are kind of an anomaly anymore in a league that has a bunch of parody. so I'd say based off the odds alone, it was flukey. though I do think that if Peterman keeps playing those odds of similar games go up considerably One out of three McProcess losses have been by 20 points or more. And yes, we are definitely a “parody” of an NFL team. In a league with “parity”, you gotta be really trying to be as bad as we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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