Virgil Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bangarang Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Brandon Aiyuk fist pumping right now. 1 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 This is guy I want on my fantasy team this year. There are certain guys that produce EVERY.....SINGLE....WEEK and freaking kill me every time I go against them. St. Brown is one of those guys 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brand J Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Not bad for a 4th rounder. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Aiyuk and Higgins are both going to use 30M per as a starting point now. Jefferson might as well ask for 40M at this point. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 This is why I think there will be at least six WRs drafted tomorrow … 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logic Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 I traded him from my dynasty team after his rookie year because I thought he wouldn't replicate that success in year two. I used the pick I got in exchange to draft.......Skyy Moore. I still think about it pretty much daily. 1 1 1 27 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pine Barrens Mafia Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 And this is why I feel it's smart to draft the lower cost rookie WR (or 2). WR inflation is real 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Worth it. Everyone wanting a true #1 out of this draft better get ready to pay that. Just now, BuffaloBillyG said: And this is why I feel it's smart to draft the lower cost rookie WR (or 2). WR inflation is real If the guy we draft breaks put then 30 per year will be the floor for him starting year 4. He won't be content plating on his rookie deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Pretty soon, teams won't be able to afford vet QBs once their franchise WR is off of his rookie contract. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 24 Author Share Posted April 24 2 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Pretty soon, teams won't be able to afford vet QBs once their franchise WR is off of his rookie contract. With the way the cap is rising, 30 is the new 20 for receivers as 50 is the new 40 for QBs. It’s all relative 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 This is why you draft guys instead of trading for Aiyuk. If you thought Diggs was expensive 2 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Worth it. Everyone wanting a true #1 out of this draft better get ready to pay that. If the guy we draft breaks put then 30 per year will be the floor for him starting year 4. He won't be content plating on his rookie deal. Yes, but at least then there are viable options. Could trade him for high picks and start the WR train again. Could pay him, but even then it would take a year for the contract to kick in. Could pick up 5th year option (if first rounder) and use the franchise tag as well for a lower hit. But in any event, you're still getting those 4-5 years on much cheaper salary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 4 minutes ago, Low Positive said: Pretty soon, teams won't be able to afford vet QBs once their franchise WR is off of his rookie contract. After KC has PROVEN, you don’t have to have Elite WRs, the trend is insane. Look how many games Adams has helped the Raiders win after that massive deal. Look where the fins went with Hill, etc. ONE guy, maybe 15 opportunities a game cannot be taking 10-15% of the cap if you have a QB taking 20%, the way it’s headed, you have a QB at 50+, pair of WRs at 50+, TE at 20+. LT/RT at 50+ the rest of the line at 30+ and we don’t even have a full offense on the field yet. The math don’t math. Going this crazy over WRs is the wrong move. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 16 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: And this is why I feel it's smart to draft the lower cost rookie WR (or 2). WR inflation is real or even spending extra draft capital to move up to do so. You can buy a lot of high end free agents for 30. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 It's getting to a point where teams should draft nothing but QB, EDGE, WR, or LT in the 1st round. Maybe a 3T if they're really sticking out. The value difference between those positions and the rest is just too high to justify anything else. 4 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Brandon Aiyuk fist pumping right now. I figure it more like this: Edited April 24 by MrEpsYtown 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Receivers are becoming as cost prohibitive as QB's. Pretty soon you will need to choose which you want: a franchise QB or a franchise WR? You won't be able to afford both without handicapping your team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 58 minutes ago, Virgil said: With the way the cap is rising, 30 is the new 20 for receivers as 50 is the new 40 for QBs. It’s all relative So 25% inflation for QBs 50% inflation for receivers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Sun God now got more money than God. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, Bangarang said: Brandon Aiyuk fist pumping right now. Justin Jefferson right now as well 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FireChans Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 10 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It's getting to a point where teams should draft nothing but QB, EDGE, WR, or LT in the 1st round. Maybe a 3T if they're really sticking out. The value difference between those positions and the rest is just too high to justify anything else. Don’t tell Brandon Beane, but it’s been that way for years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sven233 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 You see a contract like this and can start to really understand the value of getting a rookie on a cost controlled contract for 5 years? I would not argue with you if you think the guy you need is one of the big 3 and want to trade 4-6 assets to get up and get him. I would also not argue with you if you want to stay at 28, maybe take a 2nd tier guy like Legette and then trade all the way back up in the 2nd round and grab another 2nd tier guy like Worthy, Mitchell, or someone else and have 2 cost controlled guys. I could make an argument for either and I don't think either would be wrong. Neither option may work out, but I can't argue with the premise of either. Regardless, trading for a guy like Ayuik is pretty much out of the question because we can't afford that type of contract. And, I might argue that I wouldn't want to pay that much for a WR anyway. There seems to be more and more talent coming out at WR every year. While having a top guy would be nice, I am not sure they offer enough value to get the QB style contracts. I think I can win just as much with a couple of good/great WRs instead of a dominant, elite WR with a bloated contract. There are so many talented guys out there and while WRs definitely impact the game, there are always 2-5 on the field at one time and even the best ones only touch the ball 7-9 times a game. They are not QBs that touch the ball every play. I think teams after seeing these contracts being handed out for a little while will soon realize that cost controlled WRs are the way to go. When they come up and are in line for the big contract, they will just bite the bullet, let them go, draft from the growing pool of talent and just try to find the next guy that can offer 75% of the guy getting the big contract and hope that the new player develops into the next big thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PonyBoy Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 28 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said: I figure it more like this: Such a classic scene this was in Money Ball! Great GIF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 38 minutes ago, HappyDays said: It's getting to a point where teams should draft nothing but QB, EDGE, WR, or LT in the 1st round. Maybe a 3T if they're really sticking out. The value difference between those positions and the rest is just too high to justify anything else. I mean that's the trend that a lot of GMS follow It's QB , pass rusher , Left tackle , CB or WR Those are the premium positions that get big contracts.. that's why you want the fifth year option Off ball linebackers and safety's and running backs are valuable... But you can find them well after the first Those positions that I listed get fast runs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beast Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Better off drafting a wide receiver in the first 3 rounds every season and hope to recycle the group at the end of rookie deals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 2 hours ago, Buffalo03 said: This is guy I want on my fantasy team this year. There are certain guys that produce EVERY.....SINGLE....WEEK and freaking kill me every time I go against them. St. Brown is one of those guys Massive target share, high catch %, and he even had 10 TDs (5 in the red zone). In PPR he's just a monster, but even in non-ppr 1500 yards is awesome. If he's healthy his floor is among the best of all WRs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Massive target share, high catch %, and he even had 10 TDs (5 in the red zone). In PPR he's just a monster, but even in non-ppr 1500 yards is awesome. If he's healthy his floor is among the best of all WRs. Absolutely. I'm in ppr and I missed out on drafting him last year when I wanted him. He went the pick before it came back to me in the 2nd. If I get a top 5 pick, I'm taking him. I don't know how much further he falls past 5 but he's the guy I have a bullseye on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 31 minutes ago, Beast said: Better off drafting a wide receiver in the first 3 rounds every season and hope to recycle the group at the end of rookie deals. WR almost has to become like RB. Draft one then let him walk and draft another These deals are insane 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Picking the right young (and cheap) WR out of college is looking better and better. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: It's getting to a point where teams should draft nothing but QB, EDGE, WR, or LT in the 1st round. Maybe a 3T if they're really sticking out. The value difference between those positions and the rest is just too high to justify anything else. Id actually throw in Guard too. Some of the contracts guards are getting are huge Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 (edited) 14 minutes ago, DJB said: WR almost has to become like RB. Draft one then let him walk and draft another These deals are insane Not really. You have to go by cap %. $30 million is only 11.7% of the cap. I went acl to 2011 on spotrac and Larry Fitzgerald signed a deal taking up 13.3% of the cap. Not much has changed, still about the same. A little less actually. Business is booming in the NFL. Edited April 24 by Buffalo_Stampede Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, SCBills said: Aiyuk and Higgins are both going to use 30M per as a starting point now. Jefferson might as well ask for 40M at this point. Why? St Brown is considerably better than both of them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 1 minute ago, BullBuchanan said: Why? St Brown is considerably better than both of them. He's not better than Justin Jefferson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 43 minutes ago, DJB said: WR almost has to become like RB. Draft one then let him walk and draft another These deals are insane Why? They're getting the deals so clearly the demand is there. A lot more WRs are drafted than RBs and it's a lot harder to find decent production out of them. 1 minute ago, Doc Brown said: He's not better than Justin Jefferson. Jefferson wasn't part of "both of them" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 Just now, BullBuchanan said: Jefferson wasn't part of "both of them" Oh. Got ya. I'd take Aiyuk ahead of St. Brown but not Higgins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, Virgil said: The crazy thing is that he's sort of a Khalil Shakir comp. 6' tall T-Rex armed slot receiver who has transitioned gradually more outside and put up big numbers. Maybe @Alphadawg7 is selling Khalil way short. And truth is........guys who compare to St. Brown basically never turn into anything at the NFL level. His list of physical comps is a bunch of players who never made it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, mannc said: This is why I think there will be at least six WRs drafted tomorrow … Agreed. With receiver inflation, you have to draft and replace. Reminds me of the CB position about 10-15 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted April 24 Share Posted April 24 3 hours ago, DCofNC said: After KC has PROVEN, you don’t have to have Elite WRs, the trend is insane. Look how many games Adams has helped the Raiders win after that massive deal. Look where the fins went with Hill, etc. ONE guy, maybe 15 opportunities a game cannot be taking 10-15% of the cap if you have a QB taking 20%, the way it’s headed, you have a QB at 50+, pair of WRs at 50+, TE at 20+. LT/RT at 50+ the rest of the line at 30+ and we don’t even have a full offense on the field yet. The math don’t math. Going this crazy over WRs is the wrong move. If every team could find a Kelce, this could be replicated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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