Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Before this weekend's games which includes three pivotal Saturday games, give me your 7 playoff teams in the AFC and their seedings. Here is what I came up with using the ESPN Playoff Machine 1. Ravens 13-4 ( Finish 3-1 Beat Jags, Dolphins, Steelers. Lose to the 49ers) 2. Chiefs 11-6 (Finish 3-1 Beat Patriots, Raiders, Chargers. Lose to the Bengals) 3. Jaguars 11-6 (Finish 3-1 Beat the Bucs, Panthers, Titans. Lose to the Ravens) 4. Bills 10-7 (Finish 3-1 Beat the Chargers, Patriots, Dolphins. Lose to the Cowboys) 5. Broncos 11-6 (Finish 4-0 Beat Lions, Patriots, Raiders, Chargers) 6. Bengals 11-6 (Finish 4-0 Beat Vikings, Steelers, Chiefs, Browns) 7. Browns 10-7 (Finish 2-2 Beat the Bears, Jets. Lose to the Texans and Bengals) Missing Out Colts 9-8 (Finish 2-2. Lose to the Steelers and Texans. Beat the Raiders and Falcons) Steelers 8-9 (Finish 1-3. Lose to the Benglas, Seahawks, Ravens. Beat the Colts) Texans 10-7 (Finish 3-1. Lose to the Titans (Road). Beat the Browns, Titans (Home), Colts) Dolphins 10-7 (Finish 1-3. Lose to the Ravens, Cowboys, Bills. Beat the Jets) Initial thoughts. 1. Seems unlikely both the Bengals and Broncos will win out. I do think the Broncos have a good shot of winning out. For the Bengals, probably more realistic to have them finish 3-1 with a loss to the Chiefs or even 2-2 with losses to the Chiefs and Browns. In either scenario if I plug those results in and leave everything else the same Miami takes the 7th seed and the Bengals miss the playoffs. 2. If I leave everything the same but have the Bills beat the Cowboys but lose to the Dolphins, then the Bills miss the playoffs. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Ravens Chiefs Jags Bills Dolphins Broncos Browns in that order 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 26 minutes ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Before this weekend's games which includes three pivotal Saturday games, give me your 7 playoff teams in the AFC and their seedings. Here is what I came up with using the ESPN Playoff Machine 1. Ravens 13-4 ( Finish 3-1 Beat Jags, Dolphins, Steelers. Lose to the 49ers) 2. Chiefs 11-6 (Finish 3-1 Beat Patriots, Raiders, Chargers. Lose to the Bengals) 3. Jaguars 11-6 (Finish 3-1 Beat the Bucs, Panthers, Titans. Lose to the Ravens) 4. Bills 10-7 (Finish 3-1 Beat the Chargers, Patriots, Dolphins. Lose to the Cowboys) 5. Broncos 11-6 (Finish 4-0 Beat Lions, Patriots, Raiders, Chargers) 6. Bengals 11-6 (Finish 4-0 Beat Vikings, Steelers, Chiefs, Browns) 7. Browns 10-7 (Finish 2-2 Beat the Bears, Jets. Lose to the Texans and Bengals) I can take that. In your scenario, there would be two WC rematches: Broncos at Bills and Bengals at Jaguars. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: 5. Broncos 11-6 (Finish 4-0 Beat Lions, Patriots, Raiders, Chargers) 6. Bengals 11-6 (Finish 4-0 Beat Vikings, Steelers, Chiefs, Browns) Looks good but don't think lions are losing and hopefully raiders stay hot and in the race for a bit. Bengals could also easily go 2-2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 I think the Chiefs win out because of their soft schedule/defense and the Jaguars surprisingly beat the Ravens this Sunday night at home. I see Jacksonville blowing it against the Titans because they're so darn inconsistent (like us). Bengals, Steelers, Colts, and Texans falter down the stretch, I'll go... 1.) Chiefs 2.) Ravens 3.) Jaguars 4.) Bills 5.) Browns (I see them winning 3 of 4) 6.) Broncos 7.) Dolphins 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew21PA Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Playoff machine gave me this ravens chiefs jags bills Browns dolphins broncos picked gsmes as I thought they would win. I keep seeing how everyone saying we wouldn’t get in in most scenarios with bills losing this week but whatever I digress - I don’t want to debate. Just gonna take it one game at a time Go Bills 4 hours ago, motorj said: Looks good but don't think lions are losing and hopefully raiders stay hot and in the race for a bit. Bengals could also easily go 2-2 Watching last night gave me hope that maybe the raiders at home against the broncos we could get help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Just so close this year it can go a million ways. My choices were covered above. I'll pick two teams I don't want to face in the Playoffs. Bengals and Jags. They just seem to matchup poorly with those two teams and those teams seem to have our number. 11 minutes ago, Drew21PA said: picked gsmes as I thought they would win. I keep seeing how everyone saying we wouldn’t get in in most scenarios with bills losing this week but whatever I digress - I don’t want to debate. Just gonna take it one game at a time This was based on if we lost the division and had to fight for a wildcard. Obviously Miami opened that back up by losing to the Titans and gives us a better chance to win it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Ravens Chiefs Jags Bills Broncos Browns Bengals Dolphins miss the playoffs in a Festivus miracle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GustheDog33 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 minute ago, Captain Hindsight said: Ravens Chiefs Jags Bills Broncos Browns Bengals Dolphins miss the playoffs in a Festivus miracle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Agree that the Dolphins are in trouble. Damn shame, FilthyBeast and Airseven. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dollars 2 donuts Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Before this weekend's games which includes three pivotal Saturday games, give me your 7 playoff teams in the AFC and their seedings. Here is what I came up with using the ESPN Playoff Machine 1. Ravens 13-4 ( Finish 3-1 Beat Jags, Dolphins, Steelers. Lose to the 49ers) 2. Chiefs 11-6 (Finish 3-1 Beat Patriots, Raiders, Chargers. Lose to the Bengals) 3. Jaguars 11-6 (Finish 3-1 Beat the Bucs, Panthers, Titans. Lose to the Ravens) 4. Bills 10-7 (Finish 3-1 Beat the Chargers, Patriots, Dolphins. Lose to the Cowboys) 5. Broncos 11-6 (Finish 4-0 Beat Lions, Patriots, Raiders, Chargers) 6. Bengals 11-6 (Finish 4-0 Beat Vikings, Steelers, Chiefs, Browns) 7. Browns 10-7 (Finish 2-2 Beat the Bears, Jets. Lose to the Texans and Bengals) Missing Out Colts 9-8 (Finish 2-2. Lose to the Steelers and Texans. Beat the Raiders and Falcons) Steelers 8-9 (Finish 1-3. Lose to the Benglas, Seahawks, Ravens. Beat the Colts) Texans 10-7 (Finish 3-1. Lose to the Titans (Road). Beat the Browns, Titans (Home), Colts) Dolphins 10-7 (Finish 1-3. Lose to the Ravens, Cowboys, Bills. Beat the Jets) Initial thoughts. 1. Seems unlikely both the Bengals and Broncos will win out. I do think the Broncos have a good shot of winning out. For the Bengals, probably more realistic to have them finish 3-1 with a loss to the Chiefs or even 2-2 with losses to the Chiefs and Browns. In either scenario if I plug those results in and leave everything else the same Miami takes the 7th seed and the Bengals miss the playoffs. 2. If I leave everything the same but have the Bills beat the Cowboys but lose to the Dolphins, then the Bills miss the playoffs. Thank you for the effort, Sammy, and I think there is a lot of good stuff in the above. Let's all be clear, though, on how razor thin this is, because I believe if only one game in the Dolphins schedule is different, let's say they upset the Ravens, then the Bills go from division champion to all the way out of the playoffs. We need to stack wins, and we need pretty much all of them, just in case. Edited December 15, 2023 by dollars 2 donuts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Doc Brown said: I think the Chiefs win out because of their soft schedule/defense a Given who the Chiefs have shown themselves to be over the course of the first 14 weeks of the season, I think it is reasonable to expect the Chiefs to finish 3-1 down the stretch. They have not shown themselves to be a 4-0 quality team of late. On the flipside, I don't love that I have both the Broncos and Bengals finishing 4-0. It is certainly possible each could finish 3-1. Broncos could lose to Detroit this week and Bengals could lose to the Chiefs. I believe such a scenario keeps the Broncos in the playoffs but swaps out the Bengals for the Dolphins. Not having faith that the Chiefs can finish 4-0 I had to give them a loss somewhere. Bengals seemed most likely. But this week against the Pats on the road is a sneaky spot as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 41 minutes ago, Scott7975 said: Just so close this year it can go a million ways. My choices were covered above. I'll pick two teams I don't want to face in the Playoffs. Bengals and Jags. They just seem to matchup poorly with those two teams and those teams seem to have our number. This was based on if we lost the division and had to fight for a wildcard. Obviously Miami opened that back up by losing to the Titans and gives us a better chance to win it. I’d love to get the jags again…if we didn’t lose most of our starting defense in that game I think that would’ve been a relatively easy win but you never know 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Generic_Bills_Fan said: I’d love to get the jags again…if we didn’t lose most of our starting defense in that game I think that would’ve been a relatively easy win but you never know 😂 Yeah true. We can beat them for sure. Just weird that they have had our number both times in London. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 I fear a sizable coaching disadvantage against the jags. I have a decent amount of respect for Pederson. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 9 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: Before this weekend's games which includes three pivotal Saturday games, give me your 7 playoff teams in the AFC and their seedings. Here is what I came up with using the ESPN Playoff Machine 1. Ravens 13-4 ( Finish 3-1 Beat Jags, Dolphins, Steelers. Lose to the 49ers) 2. Chiefs 11-6 (Finish 3-1 Beat Patriots, Raiders, Chargers. Lose to the Bengals) 3. Jaguars 11-6 (Finish 3-1 Beat the Bucs, Panthers, Titans. Lose to the Ravens) 4. Bills 10-7 (Finish 3-1 Beat the Chargers, Patriots, Dolphins. Lose to the Cowboys) 5. Broncos 11-6 (Finish 4-0 Beat Lions, Patriots, Raiders, Chargers) 6. Bengals 11-6 (Finish 4-0 Beat Vikings, Steelers, Chiefs, Browns) 7. Browns 10-7 (Finish 2-2 Beat the Bears, Jets. Lose to the Texans and Bengals) Missing Out Colts 9-8 (Finish 2-2. Lose to the Steelers and Texans. Beat the Raiders and Falcons) Steelers 8-9 (Finish 1-3. Lose to the Benglas, Seahawks, Ravens. Beat the Colts) Texans 10-7 (Finish 3-1. Lose to the Titans (Road). Beat the Browns, Titans (Home), Colts) Dolphins 10-7 (Finish 1-3. Lose to the Ravens, Cowboys, Bills. Beat the Jets) Initial thoughts. 1. Seems unlikely both the Bengals and Broncos will win out. I do think the Broncos have a good shot of winning out. For the Bengals, probably more realistic to have them finish 3-1 with a loss to the Chiefs or even 2-2 with losses to the Chiefs and Browns. In either scenario if I plug those results in and leave everything else the same Miami takes the 7th seed and the Bengals miss the playoffs. 2. If I leave everything the same but have the Bills beat the Cowboys but lose to the Dolphins, then the Bills miss the playoffs. Can you imagine if the Dolphins missed the playoffs after being in 2nd place with 4 weeks to go?. That would be amazing 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whites Bay Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 hours ago, Sammy Watkins' Rib said: On the flipside, I don't love that I have both the Broncos and Bengals finishing 4-0. It is certainly possible each could finish 3-1. Broncos could lose to Detroit this week and Bengals could lose to the Chiefs. I believe such a scenario keeps the Broncos in the playoffs but swaps out the Bengals for the Dolphins. I was thinking this when I read the OP. I don't see Detroit losing to Denver at home after getting embarrassed by Chicago last week. Doesn't really change things a lot, other than I don't see Denver going 4-0 down the stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skibum Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Love the playoff machine! I got: 1. KC 2. Jacksonville 3. Baltimore 4. Buffalo 5. Houston 6.Cleveland 7. Miami Can't remember which games I may have picked as upsets, etc. I must have picked the Texans to win out, and based on their schedule and QB I think it's possible. But I do think those are the 7 best teams in the AFC this year, with the possible exception of Cleveland. Indy, Denver, and Pittsburgh are not for real to me, and Cincy can't do it without Burrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Ravens Chiefs Dolphins Jaguars Browns Colts Broncos 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 7 minutes ago, Airseven said: Ravens Chiefs Dolphins Jaguars Browns Colts Broncos That's how I have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Way too much football left for me to say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Houston looks to be without Stroud on Sunday against the Titans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Watkins' Rib Posted December 15, 2023 Author Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Whites Bay said: I was thinking this when I read the OP. I don't see Detroit losing to Denver at home after getting embarrassed by Chicago last week. Doesn't really change things a lot, other than I don't see Denver going 4-0 down the stretch. I do like Denver quite a bit this week against Detroit. But reality is it is far more likely both Denver and Cincinnati go 3-1 rather than 4-0 i’m thinking it’s an adjustment I should make in my prediction. I believe it ends up being good for the Dolphins bad for the Bengals, and not having much of an impact for the Broncos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 11 hours ago, julian said: Ravens Chiefs Jags Bills Dolphins Broncos Browns in that order This looks about right to me. But a win against the Cowboys is a must. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 The Bills, and six other nobodies, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) Buffalo, Denver, Cleveland, Jax, KC, Miami, Baltimore Edited December 15, 2023 by Bleeding Bills Blue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Not sure about seeding but gut feeling right now tells me: Division Winners: Chiefs Dolphins Ravens Jaguars Wild Cards Bills Broncos Bengals/Browns - this to me is a coin flip and the matchup at the final week of season is essentially a 'play in' game IMO. Also think that somehow, someway the Bills and Chiefs are going to play again in the playoffs with unfortunately the same result as 2020/2021 since KC will get homefield once again and have a chip on their shoulder after what happened last week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) The Raiders are gonna do us a solid... they have their swag back and the light went on for the rookie QB. I think they will beat Indy and Denver..and will not lay down like dogs for Kansas City. That will a fun game for the Silver and Black on Christmas Day. 8 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: Also think that somehow, someway the Bills and Chiefs are going to play again in the playoffs with unfortunately the same result as 2020/2021 since KC will get homefield once again and have a chip on their shoulder after what happened last week. I hear you...but the emotional playoff losses to KC have left a Larger chip on the Bills' shoulders. So that will more than counteract the Kansas City regular season loss revenge angle. Outside the 1st Qtr, I don't think the Bills played all that well last Sunday. We all know they can play much better than that. Edited December 15, 2023 by zow2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jrb1979 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 23 minutes ago, zow2 said: The Raiders are gonna do us a solid... they have their swag back and the light went on for the rookie QB. I think they will beat Indy and Denver..and will not lay down like dogs for Kansas City. That will a fun game for the Silver and Black on Christmas Day. I hear you...but the emotional playoff losses to KC have left a Larger chip on the Bills' shoulders. So that will more than counteract the Kansas City regular season loss revenge angle. Outside the 1st Qtr, I don't think the Bills played all that well last Sunday. We all know they can play much better than that. I don't think they beat Indy. Raiders aren't good on the road. I just did the playoff machine and here is my final standings Bal KC Miami Jacksonville Indy Cleveland Cincinnati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Scott7975 said: Yeah true. We can beat them for sure. Just weird that they have had our number both times in London. I want no part of jags or bengals like you said. Anyone but them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeltaDigital Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 3 hours ago, Virgil said: Can you imagine if the Dolphins missed the playoffs after being in 2nd place with 4 weeks to go?. That would be amazing that. would be a true festivus miracle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 4 hours ago, Virgil said: Can you imagine if the Dolphins missed the playoffs after being in 2nd place with 4 weeks to go?. That would be amazing Its kinda crazy they can go 0-3 in the next 3 weeks and are still playing for the division week 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjt328 Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 Using the ESPN playoff machine: Ravens Chiefs Jaguars Bills Texans Browns Dolphins Biggest teams to root against down the stretch are the Dolphins and Broncos... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McBean Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 14 hours ago, chongli said: I can take that. In your scenario, there would be two WC rematches: Broncos at Bills and Bengals at Jaguars. Please let this happen. We'll beat the Broncos by 50 in a rematch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TFBillsfan Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 1 hour ago, Governor said: I want no part of jags or bengals like you said. Anyone but them. Wow. If we get in and can’t beat the Bengals with a backup QB we’ve got bigger issues. IMO, just get in and the Bills can play with anyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 2 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: Not sure about seeding but gut feeling right now tells me: Division Winners: Chiefs Dolphins Ravens Jaguars Wild Cards Bills Broncos Bengals/Browns - this to me is a coin flip and the matchup at the final week of season is essentially a 'play in' game IMO. Also think that somehow, someway the Bills and Chiefs are going to play again in the playoffs with unfortunately the same result as 2020/2021 since KC will get homefield once again and have a chip on their shoulder after what happened last week. Because of their poor conference record, it would be hard for the Bills to get a WC. It feels like division or bust this year for their playoff hopes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) In my mind it’s always been Kansas City and Dallas as a package deal. The loser of Steelers v Colts drops out this week, and Stroud is a long shot to make it back in time for Tennessee, but because the Bills don’t have the tie breakers on the Broncos or Bengals, they need the game. Broncos only hard one left is this weekend against Detroit. Otherwise they look like they’ll go 3-1. Bengals have at Chiefs, but again, other than that one game, they face Vikings, Steelers and Browns at home, and the Browns have out 8 starters this week from their opening day roster. Edited December 15, 2023 by Straight Hucklebuck 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) 25 minutes ago, TFBillsfan said: Wow. If we get in and can’t beat the Bengals with a backup QB we’ve got bigger issues. IMO, just get in and the Bills can play with anyone. Both coaches dominate McD. We want to avoid that. Both teams shut down our offense with relative ease. Edited December 15, 2023 by Governor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 5 hours ago, Airseven said: Ravens Chiefs Dolphins Jaguars Browns Colts Broncos Can’t believe you haven’t got the Bills in there … Normally you are so optimistic 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr-Bills Posted December 15, 2023 Share Posted December 15, 2023 (edited) Baltimore Kansas City Jacksonville Buffalo Cleveland Houston Miami https://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine/_/results/401547604~1~401547607~1~401547606~1~401547594~1~401547595~1~401547598~1~401547599~1~401547601~2~401547602~2~401547600~1~401547597~1~401547596~2~401547608~2~401547605~1~401547603~2~401547609~1~401547610~2~401547611~2~401547612~1~401547613~1~401547614~2~401547616~1~401547617~2~401547622~2~401547241~1~401547351~1~401547621~1~401547620~2~401547619~2~401547615~2~401547618~2~401547624~1~401547623~1~401547625~1~401547626~1~401547627~1~401547628~1~401547629~1~401547631~1~401547637~1~401547630~1~401547235~1~401547636~1~401547635~2~401547634~1~401547633~1~401547632~2~401547638~2~401547639~1~401547640~2~401547641~1~401547642~2~401547643~1~401547644~2~401547645~2~401547653~2~401547652~2~401547651~1~401547650~2~401547649~2~401547648~2~401547647~2~401547646~29 https://www.espn.com/nfl/playoffs/machine/_/results/401547604~1~401547607~1~401547606~1~401547594~1~401547595~1~401547598~1~401547599~1~401547601~2~401547602~2~401547600~1~401547597~1~401547596~2~401547608~2~401547605~1~401547603~2~401547609~1~401547610~2~401547611~2~401547612~1~401547613~1~401547614~2~401547616~1~401547617~2~401547622~2~401547241~1~401547351~1~401547621~1~401547620~2~401547619~2~401547615~2~401547618~2~401547624~1~401547623~1~401547625~1~401547626~1~401547627~1~401547628~1~401547629~1~401547631~1~401547637~1~401547630~1~401547235~1~401547636~1~401547635~2~401547634~1~401547633~1~401547632~2~401547638~2~401547639~1~401547640~2~401547641~1~401547642~2~401547643~1~401547644~2~401547645~2~401547653~2~401547652~2~401547651~1~401547650~2~401547649~2~401547648~2~401547647~2~401547646~29 Edited December 15, 2023 by Starr-Bills Added url to back up post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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