dayman Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) Idk about the rest of you but it’s basically looking like he’s done. Obviously eating eat huge cap now and in the future, and no signs of ever being a difference maker. Edited December 13, 2023 by dayman 4 7 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 He showed signs of improvement in the Chiefs game. Collapsed the pocket decently on at least a few of his snaps. 11 24 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruffalo Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Not really much you can do one way or the other. Either he'll bounce back or he won't. It seems like the coaching staff is giving him reps and holding out hope that he'll find his groove again. He's on the team no matter what unless he's brought up on those DV charges. 3 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 No knee brace on Sunday. He looked a hell of a lot more like himself. I think he’s actually going to turn it on in the coming weeks. I doubt he’s gonna be pre-injury level Von, but he certainly looked better this week comparatively speaking 9 13 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Expecting it? Yes done expecting it. I have some degree of optimism that he might get back to being a productive player but that is tempered by the uncertainty of his playing status wrt his DV charge. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 He trusts his knee now as he didn't wear a brace. He will get more and more comfortable and expect him to start contributing more. He still has the burst, needs the bend. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikie2times Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 He's going to be hell bent on restoring his image and the only way to do that is get back to form. This was by far his best game. I expect we will see improvement transpire as the season unfolds, we will have to keep him based on cap hit next year and he will likely have one blowout final 10+ sack year in 2024. Then we will part ways in 2025. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgang Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I think he is gonna kick some ass this weekend. I don’t know anything about football but I have a feeling. 3 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 He made it to Mahomes twice on Sunday. Maybe he's finally getting there. He caused a near fumble on Mahomes that was called incomplete 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Von flashed this week, AJE is hurt, so no, I am not done expecting something out of Von. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshAllin Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) He helped stop KC from taking a 21-17 lead, they only got a field goal that drive instead Edited December 13, 2023 by motorj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Took the darn knee brace off. It tells me he’s gonna stop screwing around with rehab and go 110%. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 You’re asking for the ending to the book nobody has finished reading. One sack fumble week 18 to clinch the game if it ends up the big game it could be or some other major impact play and nobody will care he was invisible during this stretch. From the football side of things anyways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blank Stare Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 29 minutes ago, RiotAct said: He showed signs of improvement in the Chiefs game. Collapsed the pocket decently on at least a few of his snaps. Agreed. He’s getting closer. Most active and noticeable he’s been since last year these last couple games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I do not understand why anyone would choose this game, of all the games he’s played this year, to convey this message. He actually affected Mahomes late in the 4th a few times. Looked like he finally started figuring some things out. 3 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 14 minutes ago, zow2 said: Took the darn knee brace off. It tells me he’s gonna stop screwing around with rehab and go 110%. 1 9 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 35 minutes ago, dayman said: Idk about the rest of you but it’s basically looking like he’s done. Obviously eating eat huge cap now and in the future, and no signs of ever being a difference maker. Weird week to post this. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BBFL Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I’ve been a staunch critic of Von due to his numbers but he didn’t do too bad Sunday. Nothing wow but a definite improvement to where he’s been this season when on the field. Can only hope that improvement continues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Coot Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Announcers also mentioned that coaches switched Von to the other side of the line. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, dayman said: Idk about the rest of you but it’s basically looking like he’s done. Obviously eating eat huge cap now and in the future, and no signs of ever being a difference maker. Von is just now starting to come into form from his ACL injury, his recovery time is absolutely normal and what is/was expected. He will not be his old self for a bit more time. The OPs thread / expectations doesn’t take this into consideration, one might ask why the OP doesn’t realize this…, GO BILLS!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 41 minutes ago, dayman said: Idk about the rest of you but it’s basically looking like he’s done. Obviously eating eat huge cap now and in the future, and no signs of ever being a difference maker. I thought as the game went on, Von played a little better which gives me more hope for the future. I will say I was extremely discouraged when I saw his first few pass rush attempts. On one play he lined up on the right side and tried to beat a tackle and RB around the edge. They simply pushed him so far down the field he went out of frame and never returned. It was a really bad rep. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 He had his best game Sunday. I expect him to continue to improve each and every week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
juno999 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 36 minutes ago, Old Coot said: Announcers also mentioned that coaches switched Von to the other side of the line. He played opposite of OT Wanya Morris a rookie. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I hope he's got something left. We're going to need something from him with Epenesa being injured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I was giving Von until after the bye to really judge him, he tore his ACL just over a year ago at Thanksgiving. It's kind of shocking he was able to be activated after missing just the first four games. That being said we are now after the bye and while I think he showed some signs of life against KC my expectations of him this season are super low. It is possible by the playoffs he will look like a more serviceable player, against KC he at least showed something out there so there is some progress. Just overall I am not so sure he is going to be that much better than he currently is maybe next year they can get one more good season out of him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Brown Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Double digit sacks by Christmas. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 1 hour ago, NewEra said: He had his best game Sunday. I expect him to continue to improve each and every week. He looked a lot better, thus far he has been a complete non-factor until Sunday when he showed some signs of life. I am just not so sure with 4 games left in the season how much better he looks by season's end. But signs of life on Sunday are a positive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 37 minutes ago, billsfan89 said: He looked a lot better, thus far he has been a complete non-factor until Sunday when he showed some signs of life. I am just not so sure with 4 games left in the season how much better he looks by season's end. But signs of life on Sunday are a positive. He had a hand in 3 incompletions from my recollection if he can bring that number to 5, I think that’s a great game. I feel he can still be an impact pass rusher come playoffs. Our crazy depth at DE will allow him to remain fresh all game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I am. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 STD: 187 snaps, 2 tackles (1 solo/1 asst.), 3 QBHits, 0 Sacks, 0 TFLs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bookie Man Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Damn imagine if he regain 75% of his old form and Daquan comes back.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gordong Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 3 hours ago, dayman said: Idk about the rest of you but it’s basically looking like he’s done. Obviously eating eat huge cap now and in the future, and no signs of ever being a difference maker. did you even watch the game Sunday... these von threads are getting really old... you want a 34 yr old to come back and be a pro bowl player 1 year after major knee surgery... AWESOME. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 4 hours ago, cgang said: I don’t know anything about football but I have a feeling. first honest post in TBD history 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 Once he starts getting 4 sacks a game his DV charges kick in... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan692 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I mean he tore his ACL guys its a 1 year recovery he basically just now getting back its a bit early to judge if he is "done" as a football player. We'll find out next season. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 5 hours ago, dayman said: Idk about the rest of you but it’s basically looking like he’s done. Obviously eating eat huge cap now and in the future, and no signs of ever being a difference maker. Yet opposing teams still feel the need to double team him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 No. He will get better. It takes time. Just because the boo-boo is healed enough to play doesn’t mean he is fully rehabbed. People gave up on white too but he was playing great this year until the injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Grundy Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 I'd rather have Von coming into his own for a potential post-season than have him pillage the opposition for the opening few games like last year. If he *does* get his body back in time - and we *do* somehow reach the playoffs - it's going to be a hell of a boon to have him back. Maybe, just maybe, this is the year instead of falling apart, we come together at just the right time. And maybe it will be a white Christmas and there will be lasting peace on earth too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coldfronts Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 (edited) He's got all his gymnastic moves back but one thing he's missing is pushing back on lineman to collapse the pocket and get to the QB. He's lost a lot of his physical play or holding back Edited December 13, 2023 by Coldfronts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted December 13, 2023 Share Posted December 13, 2023 8 hours ago, dayman said: Idk about the rest of you but it’s basically looking like he’s done. Obviously eating eat huge cap now and in the future, and no signs of ever being a difference maker. LIke almost all ACL tears (for example Tre White's), the season after the injury is pretty much a waste as the player misses the entire off season workout program, mini camps and training camp, and this season is all about going back to playing football . I expect him to be much better next year, assuming his age doesn't start working against him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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