Bleeding Bills Blue Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 51 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said: He had so many injuries in Carolina that it was a huge risk to trade for him. So far so good in SF but that could change at any time. Can he just make it to week 17? He's holding my fantasy team together at this point. 9 minutes ago, The Jokeman said: Most teams can't follow their model as they got lucky to land Purdy as before him they looked like they made a massive mistake in Lance. Toss in they got a MVP type player in CMC for a lot less then his value was. etc. Yet ideally yes you should build a strong overall defense and then a strong offensive line and can plug in a solid QB and win especially when have an all around talent like CMC but not an easy task to have everything come together but as good as they are they still haven't won a Super Bowl in close to 30 years. Between the eagles, the 49ers, the chiefs... even the lions, bengals, bills, cowboys, and jags. It's clear that being strong on offense and defensive lines makes everything work easier on either side of the ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benderbender Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) Forty Nine Niners does sound like an evil team name Should really update the team name though, 2021 cryptominers? Weed stock buying Game Stop-ers? Robinhood.com-ers? Moving to Florida-ers? Edited October 12, 2023 by benderbender 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southern_Bills Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, BeavercreekBillsFan said: 100% right on CMC. Beane loves getting Carolina guys but can’t work out a deal for the best panther player and best weapon in the league? I doubt anyone could have topped that trade unless they traded higher draft capital than the 49ers. Kyle has known Christian since he was born probably, as Kyle's Dad coached Christians dad Ed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C.Biscuit97 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I wish I could bet money on them not making the SB. They are counting on players who struggle to stay healthy. And I still don’t fully believe in Purdy. There is an adjustment coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
starrymessenger Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, C.Biscuit97 said: I wish I could bet money on them not making the SB. They are counting on players who struggle to stay healthy. And I still don’t fully believe in Purdy. There is an adjustment coming. Brock Purdy can't do what Josh or Pat Mahomes can do and if you ask him to he would implode. But I don't think Josh or Pat could run Kyle's offence any better than Purdy does. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Romes Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 All their key players have an injury history. Doubt they will be near full strength in the stretch run. It’s actually a negative that they all healthy now in the early season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, benderbender said: Forty Nine Niners does sound like an evil team name Should really update the team name though, 2021 cryptominers? Weed stock buying Game Stop-ers? Robinhood.com-ers? Moving to Florida-ers? I mean... The bills are named after a frontiersman from the same time so not a lot of room to talk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marv Levy Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 49niners: the new nfl villains ? No, that title belongs solely to the KC Chiefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I dunno I really like watching them play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I would not say they are villain's, but I do think they are a bit of the team in vogue and a lot of people have just grown tired of it especially as they don't have a ring yet (although this year could be it). Part of the exhaustion I think is that people lavish praise to max for the 49ers (most of it deservedly so) but any criticism is usually deflected away even with something like Trey Lance who they traded a boat ton for and failed to pan out with. I think Shanny is brilliant as heck and what they have built is what more teams should go for. I actually find their players very likable along with their style of play. I do find their fans to be incredibly front runner though and when the chips were down a bit in the mid 2010's they seemingly were not around. Anytime a team is running as hot as they are and have there is an exhaustion factor to the rest of sports fans over time. It is like that Harvey Dent line from the Dark Knight " You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain", right now I would say the 49ers and Chiefs are probably the embodiment of that the way the Patriots/Colts/Steelers were for a long while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
90sBills Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Forty nine niners sound very villainous. They might lose this Sunday to the Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, corta765 said: I would not say they are villain's, but I do think they are a bit of the team in vogue and a lot of people have just grown tired of it especially as they don't have a ring yet (although this year could be it). Part of the exhaustion I think is that people lavish praise to max for the 49ers (most of it deservedly so) but any criticism is usually deflected away even with something like Trey Lance who they traded a boat ton for and failed to pan out with. I think Shanny is brilliant as heck and what they have built is what more teams should go for. I actually find their players very likable along with their style of play. I do find their fans to be incredibly front runner though and when the chips were down a bit in the mid 2010's they seemingly were not around. Anytime a team is running as hot as they are and have there is an exhaustion factor to the rest of sports fans over time. It is like that Harvey Dent line from the Dark Knight " You either die a hero or live long enough to become the villain", right now I would say the 49ers and Chiefs are probably the embodiment of that the way the Patriots/Colts/Steelers were for a long while. I like them because they are kind of the antiNFL darling They are consistently elite w out a top QB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Just now, GoBills808 said: I like them because they are kind of the antiNFL darling They are consistently elite w out a top QB I still think that Miami and SF have cracked the code on how to win without a top 5 QB. If they play each other in the SB (a real possibility), other teams will copy the model and we may see a rethinking of roster construction league-wide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Chiefs still have it. Phins want it but haven’t won anything - just insufferable fans. All the attention paid to Mahomes and Kelce is annoying. Refs keep long them alive multiple times this year alone, Swifties… need I say more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 499ers? That is some serious inflation!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoonerBillsFan Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: They have the most arrogant coach in the league. The team reflects his personality. It is possibly the reason Kyle isn't Bills coach. The Pegulas interviewed him in the Rex Ryan process and hated him. Yeah and can you imagine what Allen would look like if Shanahan had him all this time? This whole "I don't like him, doesnt fit our ideals" bs is just that BS. Like him, don't like him... just put us in the best place to win superbowls Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italian Bills Posted October 12, 2023 Author Share Posted October 12, 2023 I corrected the thread title: everyone happy now ? 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I still have the Bengals as my most hated team right now. All the trash they talked last year, I hope the 49ers stomp the "Big Dogs" on Oct 29th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prissythecat Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, High Football IQ said: Can't be an NFL villain if you haven't won anything. Chiefs are that team especially since the NFL has already predetermined that Mahomes is next Brady and they are going to get every call imaginable to continue winning superbowls in the coming years. Is the FilthyBeast handle taking a sabbatical ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, SoonerBillsFan said: Yeah and can you imagine what Allen would look like if Shanahan had him all this time? This whole "I don't like him, doesnt fit our ideals" bs is just that BS. Like him, don't like him... just put us in the best place to win superbowls I am not sure Shanahan would love Josh for reasons I have stated elsewhere. But I'd have hired literally anyone over Rex Ryan. A dead crow would have done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corta765 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, GoBills808 said: I like them because they are kind of the antiNFL darling They are consistently elite w out a top QB haha I think that is def cool although the data supports Purdy is at least a top 10 guy at this point. There is a reallyyy interesting situation though of whether it is the talent/system or if the QB is thee guy right now. I think it is a blend of both Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 Probably my second favorite team over the last few years. They do it the way it's supposed to be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 8 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Yea. Rex is a much better salesman obviously. Obviously Marrone was the better coach, obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Success Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 I like the Niners. The NFL's new villains are undoubtedly the Chiefs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 What is it OP is getting at anyway? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
machine gun kelly Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 10 hours ago, Italian Bills said: Honestly, the arrogance lately showed from some of their players, in primis Samuel and Kittle, is something that make me starting hate that team, maybe even more than KC or Cincy. They are playing great if not the best football (weak conference), but their attitude is becoming pretty annoying. They would deserve a good beat in the face. I haven’t observed arrogance, but they are the most complete team right now in the NFL. PHILLY’s still winning, but they have looked more vulnerable as has KC, and Cincy is really hampered by Burrow’s injury. The 9ers are the team I least want to face if we ever made it to the SB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 3 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I am not sure Shanahan would love Josh for reasons I have stated elsewhere. But I'd have hired literally anyone over Rex Ryan. A dead crow would have done. Shanahan wanted trey Lance who had more question marks than Josh Allen and like nine Starts FCS player with lots of questions marks and amazing physical gifts Josh was Trey Lance with more starts in a higher level football , and bigger I don't think shanahan would have had a problem drafting Josh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Frankish Reich Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 9 hours ago, GunnerBill said: They have the most arrogant coach in the league. The team reflects his personality. It is possibly the reason Kyle isn't Bills coach. The Pegulas interviewed him in the Rex Ryan process and hated him. Kyle out-arroganted Rex? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 They've been #1 for me since end of last season. I did not think anyone was in their league at the beginning of this year and I still do not think anyone has risen to their level. Absolutely rock-solid defense, great multipurpose RB, great WR's, great TE, a QB who does not make mistakes, offensive-minded coach. At times, I thought maybe the Bills could hang with them this year, and if played like they did against Miami and Washington, could potentially beat SF on a given day, but it still felt like if the Bills and 49ers played 10 straight games, I think SF wins 6-7 of them. With the injuries to a few key defensive players I feel even more strongly that is how it would play out. By no means has anyone labeled them as villains. That's a self-imposed notion, not anyone else. You want villains, I think KC continues to play that role week in and week out with the refereeing seemingly always going their way. SF? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Shanahan wanted trey Lance who had more question marks than Josh Allen and like nine Starts FCS player with lots of questions marks and amazing physical gifts Josh was Trey Lance with more starts in a higher level football , and bigger I don't think shanahan would have had a problem drafting Josh Drafting him, maybe not. But he likes his QB to paint by numbers and run his plays. He does not appreciate freelancing. I think he and Josh would have had friction. He is not an easy personality Shanahan. And been told that by people who have worked in that building with him. 1 hour ago, The Frankish Reich said: Kyle out-arroganted Rex? I just guess Rex was reasonable in the interview. Rex has an ability to be affable and plausible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: I am not sure Shanahan would love Josh for reasons I have stated elsewhere. But I'd have hired literally anyone over Rex Ryan. A dead crow would have done. It's like the people who say Bill belichick would prefer Mac Jones over Josh Allen lol If you're a head coach in this league and you would not take Josh Allen to be your quarterback you probably won't be in the league long... Reid is probably the only one who wouldn't need to take him I would bet a 100 times out of 100 times he would take Josh Allen over purdy It would be asinine if he didn't... Josh is a Hall of Fame quarterback talent only 28 And he could do every single thing Brock can do and Brock can't do everything he can If you just said Kyle shanahan you have one quarterback to choose... Josh Allen or Brock He isn't taking brock He was infatuated with Trey Lance because of his ability to create plays... There's not one coach out there who doesn't want a quarterback who could create when a play breaks down... You could Coach Josh Allen to run any offense... He is not a system quarterback He wouldn't have to create as much if he had three people running wide open every play like the 49ers offense lol our best plays are ad libs We don't have Kyle shanahan drawing up plays Edited October 12, 2023 by Buffalo716 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WyoAZBillfan Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 And yet, that team (the 2020s 49’ers) has as many Super Bowl wins as this Bills team. 🤷🏼♂️ I mean I get it, but at some point ya have to show the money. 0-2 is still bragging rights, just not the type i prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan in Chicago Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Buffalo716 said: Shanahan wanted trey Lance who had more question marks than Josh Allen and like nine Starts He and the Niners organization are just incredibly lucky to have stumbled onto Purdy. For all of Shanahan's offensive brilliance, the success wouldn't have happened without a system QB like Purdy following the script and playing safe with the ball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott7975 Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 4 hours ago, prissythecat said: Is the FilthyBeast handle taking a sabbatical ? Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Positive Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 5 hours ago, prissythecat said: Is the FilthyBeast handle taking a sabbatical ? I think that he posts under different names Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westside Posted October 12, 2023 Share Posted October 12, 2023 9 hours ago, GunnerBill said: It is true. The Pegulas have not demonstrated they are good at recognising the right people to run their sports franchises. It is why I think they are so beholden to McDermott and Beane. It is the ONE time they have got good, competent leaders. People can question if they are the right people to deliver a championship, that is fair. But McDermott and Beane are clearly very competent and would both be snapped up in a park drive minute if the Bills moved on. And Terry would probably hire Nate Hackett and Dave Gettleman. Too bad we can’t trade Mcbean as a package. I kid of course. But this close but no cigar isn’t a recipe for long term success. I wonder how many Super-bowls we would have went to or won if we had Shanahan as our coach? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EmotionallyUnstable Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) “They hate us cuz they ain’t us.” Best team in the league. They’re going to catch all the glamor and the frustration. Maybe l’m in the minority, but I really like some of their players/stories: Purdy = Mr. irrelevant? How can you beat that? McCaffery is a McMonster Debo is a horse. Kittle is a crazy man. T Williams is also a mauler. Their whole defense plays with speed and decisiveness (Bosa, Warner, Hufanga, etc) and they make splash plays regularly. It’s good football. Edited October 13, 2023 by EmotionallyUnstable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 (edited) I love watching them, and have zero negative things to say. It's great football. Great coaching, great system, great players. Best part is they have no effect on the Bills unless we see them in a super bowl someday Edited October 13, 2023 by TheFunPolice 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 9ers rock. nuf said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted October 13, 2023 Share Posted October 13, 2023 All these fake Bills fans who are coming out to cheer on the niners LOL You do realize fan is short for fanatic? I don't even like the NFL anymore I just like the Buffalo Bills... I can never root for any other team 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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