The Red King Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, wppete said: Um...yeah? I mean, I'd love a mansion. Doesn't mean I can afford one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, wppete said: Just saw this. I been saying this. Beane isn't going to offer him more than 1 maybe 2 years w conditions. It's just not wise to pay 2 30+ WRs long term Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 hours ago, wppete said: Guess that ends that lol. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 On 7/10/2023 at 1:19 PM, HOUSE said: Are we having tea and crumpets today ? No. Banana bread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabstblueribbon Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 7 minutes ago, billieve420 said: Guess that ends that lol. Oh yee of little faith! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglientep Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 10 minutes ago, Beck Water said: No. Banana bread. With nuts and chocolate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I don't think too often it's going to go over well when a team says publicly that they want a player to play for them but don't want to pay him. That is the reality of the situation though so definitely not surprising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taglientep Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, pigpen65 said: I don't think too often it's going to go over well when a team says publicly that they want a player to play for them but don't want to pay him. That is the reality of the situation though so definitely not surprising It’s also someone on the outside reporting it. Not saying it’s not true but it’s not bills brass saying it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsShredder83 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Beck Water said: I know nothing about the bodybuilder world, but these are the claims: That industry is wildly unregulated, and that guys selling things at a 500%+ premium, that cost $50 lol There's a million tricks, different dude, photoshop, airbrushing, not being 45day, trenbolone etc etc. Not being a hater, or at all criticizing you, how would the average 99% population know? I can assure you though those claims aren't just unrealistic. It's a bold faced lie lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drummernut74 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 It’s a matter of, “we’ll come up in price if you come down in price. Prove to us you want to be a Buffalo Bill and that it’s more about winning and less about money, and we’ll find even ground that everyone can agree on”. They know he’s not going to play for food stamps to chase a ring Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 7 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: I have no idea what any of that means but I’ll defend your right to say it. 😉 Burks is good. Okwonko is a burgeoning tight end. He is a weapon! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabstblueribbon Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 Maybe Buffalo already has an offer in place and Dhop is calling bs on the jist of the article (buffalo will only give bare minimum)? :keeping the coals going: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Limeaid said: Some people imagine there is no cap. If the Bills wanted they could massage the cap to make a “big” offer but there is no reason why the Bills would want to take on what could be a big liability in future deadcap years for Dhop at this stage of his career. Similar to Floyd the Bills will probably make a decent respectable offer that make kick a bit of dead money down the road but they aren’t going to hamstring themselves too much either 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, billieve420 said: Guess that ends that lol. I speak emoji. He's saying the report is BS. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Starr Almighty Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 1 hour ago, billieve420 said: Guess that ends that lol. That can be taken as Buffalo is the S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 4 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I speak emoji. He's saying the report is BS. Pretty much if he was trying to make it seem like he had no interest playing here he'd need a time machine, considering his own comments all offseason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 (edited) 35 minutes ago, HappyDays said: I speak emoji. He's saying the report is BS. I read it as him either saying the Buffalo offer is crap and/or Buffalo is crap and he isn't coming here (probably because they offered him crap). The fact that he put the Buffalo first wouldn't lead me to believe he's simply saying the report is dung. If he wanted to say that he would have just posted the poop emoji. Buffalo + poop means something different than that in "emoji". Especially when you consider it's in reply to an article basically saying we're interested only if he wants to come cheap. More wishful thinking on your part. This thing has been a non starter unless he came around to our team friendly offer and this is him saying that isn't going to happen. Edited July 11, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Since1981 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 he is NUTS to take “passes” from Jones. Bills could manipulate a contract and people that gets what both need. Even if it means weird Y2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 9 minutes ago, Warcodered said: Pretty much if he was trying to make it seem like he had no interest playing here he'd need a time machine, considering his own comments all offseason. That interest could have easily disappeared when he saw a meager offer and felt insulted by it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 hours ago, billieve420 said: Guess that ends that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said: That can be taken as Buffalo is the S It is an odd response tho. I might almost agree with you on this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Goin Breakdown said: It is an odd response tho. I might almost agree with you on this. He’s a jerk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted July 11, 2023 Author Share Posted July 11, 2023 29 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: More wishful thinking on your part. What are you talking about man? I've all but given up on the idea that Beane will do what needs to be done to make this happen. He didn't close on Von Miller in 2021, McCaffrey last year, and now Hopkins. He's unwilling to cross his strict value line, ever, unless it's for depth caliber linemen. I'm not happy about it but I'm not stretching facts to convince myself Beane will change his MO this time around. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 5 minutes ago, HappyDays said: What are you talking about man? I've all but given up on the idea that Beane will do what needs to be done to make this happen. He didn't close on Von Miller in 2021, McCaffrey last year, and now Hopkins. He's unwilling to cross his strict value line, ever, unless it's for depth caliber linemen. I'm not happy about it but I'm not stretching facts to convince myself Beane will change his MO this time around. Or defensive tackles 😂😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I wish him well But I think he’s really missing out, not coming to the bills he could’ve totally rehabbed his value on a contending team 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, HappyDays said: I speak emoji. He's saying the report is BS. Same thing I thought. I highly doubt his agent would let him respond with something like that. Don’t cut your nose off… Edited July 12, 2023 by Blackbeard Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blackbeard Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 46 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Clearly that's what he's saying. The article reads 'Buffalo is interested if he wants to ring chase aka come cheap' and he is replying to that with essentially "F that". Anyone who wants to read it differently is in total denial. I get what you’re thinking, but I kinda doubt he’s slapping the bills in the face with a ***** emoji. Just my thoughts. You don’t wanna piss off a prospective suitor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Blackbeard said: I get what you’re thinking, but I kinda doubt he’s slapping the bills in the face with a ***** emoji. Just my thoughts. You don’t wanna piss off a prospective suitor Unless he doesn't care because that suitor has offered something that he feels is a slap in the face to him. Which is what I think is going on here. To me, it's been obvious since Day 1 that given our cap situation, the way he operates, things that Beane has said, and the urgency (or lack thereof) in which he's operated - that his interest (if any) has been on a 1 year, incentive laden prove it deal. Much like Poona Ford and Leonard Floyd, the offer has been on the table for him to come back to or simply not. He's not going to all of a sudden up his offer to Hopkins demands and Hopkins knows that. So he simply doesn't care if he's slapping us in the face or not because the door is closed and in his mind we've slapped HIM in the face. If he was worried about what you're alleging, he'd simply say nothing at all. Edited July 12, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 On 7/8/2023 at 9:59 PM, BADOLBILZ said: I mean, what they did in a literal sense, was switch out all of last season's proven failures for some veteran journeymen WR's and modest IOL talent in UFA who were coming off seasons that ranged from totally unproductive to modestly effective. They are just hoping that they hit the jackpot with a couple of those guys AT LEAST and that they play much better than they did with their teams in 2022. Which, for reference, is what Indianapolis is hoping for from Isaiah McKenzie too. Because the fact is, they didn't acquire a single player on offense who played up to the level last season that they need them to play at this year in Buffalo to make a difference. There isn't a single one for whom a repeat performance would be a success if they need to play an important role for the Bills offense in 2023. They tried the same thing last year with Jamison Crowder and OJ Howard. Those were even bigger names with more and better NFL seasons in their past.......for whom much was hoped for.......but they never even got off the runway. The moves that they made that are most likely to move the needle for the team are their 1st round TE and 2nd round OG. And that's mainly because they don't have a proven track record of not being able to excel......or missing significant time due to injuries........that the free agents do. I have my fingers crossed that the mixture of additions work out but I'm going to be realistic about what to expect......especially from the rag tag group they added in UFA. I believe this team is looking for "outlier" seasons, guy's that have underperformed or have been hurt. Gonna roll the dice hope for some kind of breakout. If it does happen don't expect to roll it out again outside of Kincaid. Still have nail some future drafts. Somehow got to fit in the equation Josh Allen, he will play a big part obviously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 hours ago, billieve420 said: Guess that ends that lol. That's fake 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 3 hours ago, BillsShredder83 said: That industry is wildly unregulated, and that guys selling things at a 500%+ premium, that cost $50 lol There's a million tricks, different dude, photoshop, airbrushing, not being 45day, trenbolone etc etc. Not being a hater, or at all criticizing you, how would the average 99% population know? I can assure you though those claims aren't just unrealistic. It's a bold faced lie lol No criticism taken. And no intent to criticize you in return. I Hear You on the industry being un-regulated. My point is with the industry being unregulated, and no careful controlled studies of the impact on athletes, I'm not sure how one can be certain what is or isn't a lie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 OMG this thread is hilarious. This isn’t rocket science. DHop gave an emoticon response directed at calling the reported rumor BS. It literally means nothing else so stop trying to read more into it. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 hours ago, taglientep said: With nuts and chocolate? Pecans. touch of cinnamon. No chocolate. I make it in the Instant Pot so I don't need to turn on the oven so it has a wonderful smooth texture. It's good. https://rootitoot.com/recipes-and-cooking/breakfast-breads-and-sandwiches/banana-bread/ 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 The longer he remains unsigned gives me the vibe he is looking for a contender, hoping it is us, but watch it be the Chargers 😅 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said: The longer he remains unsigned gives me the vibe he is looking for a contender, hoping it is us, but watch it be the Chargers 😅 Of course it'll be an afc contender. Smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 6 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said: The longer he remains unsigned gives me the vibe he is looking for a contender, hoping it is us, but watch it be the Chargers 😅 I have the opposite feeling. Longer it goes the more $$$ seem to matter 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 56 minutes ago, Dan in Owego said: I believe this team is looking for "outlier" seasons, guy's that have underperformed or have been hurt. Gonna roll the dice hope for some kind of breakout. What the fans want: What Beane's willing to pay for: 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Ridgewaycynic2013 said: What the fans want: What Beane's willing to pay for: Hey, the bears went to Japan (overseas). Bills are going to England (overseas). I'm starting to like where this is going. Edited July 12, 2023 by The Wiz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan in Owego Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Hey, the bears went to Japan (overseas). Bills are going to England (overseas). I'm starting to like where this is going. Preach brother!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted July 12, 2023 Share Posted July 12, 2023 I'd imagine any real offer for the guy won't happen until a couple days before camp opens. Anyone offering him a contract right now is only betting against themselves. Any report coming out about DHop or Cook being offered contracts by a team or a team having serious interest in them is only nonsense being put out by their agents as a last ditch effort to get them a multi year substantial contract from a GM that gets anxious and overplays his own hand. Any response to said report by the player is done so at the behest of the agent. Keeps their name in the news and on the mind of the anxious GM. Smart GMs won't play that game. The agent is just trying to see if they can bait offers from the Jets, Raiders, Browns, Bears, Commanders, or Texans right now. I am sure that the 1 year incentive laced deal with a contender for DHop will come a few days before camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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