Rd 7, Pick 230: G Nick Broeker, Mississippi

[Trogdor]

8 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

Can play OT and G

 

0 sacks allowed in 472 pass block snaps

God I hope not. I'd prefer not trying another guard with a lack of athleticism at tackle lol. I really dislike the "able to play multiple positions" aspect of Bills scouting, it almost always means they aren't great at any of them. Just get people that are above average at the positions they need them in.

[Governor]

Junkie McD had to get his fix.

[BillsFan4]

6 minutes ago, Trogdor said:

God I hope not. I'd prefer not trying another guard with a lack of athleticism at tackle lol. I really dislike the "able to play multiple positions" aspect of Bills scouting, it almost always means they aren't great at any of them. Just get people that are above average at the positions they need them in.

He was a starter at left tackle in college for 3 years then switched to guard this past season. Looks like he’s probably more suited for guard in the NFL though.

Edited April 29, 2023 by BillsFan4

[Punching Bag]

1 hour ago, Conlan58 said:

Actually shocked to see another IOL pick. Almost like McBeane have been checking in on this board. 

 

Nope.  They have an intern paid minimum wage to watch all the different social media sites including fackbook, TWITter, Instagram, LinkedIn as well as pods and non-professional football websites.  We you get the big bucks you do not have time to waste on first look of those sites.

[DJB]

20 minutes ago, oldmanfan said:

Not that I agree necessarily, but it would save millions plus he is a concussion away from potentially having to hang it up.

He’s the leader on the line and does so much for Josh. He’s certainly not a liability and if he gets hurt he goes to IR and we save cap anyways 

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

 

I'm not pounding the table to get rid of Morse, but we have seen Bates capably play center. We are light on cap space and still could use a couple late-stage free agent signings to round out our DL. Not to mention a certain WR that I would still love to find a way to obtain. Moving on from Morse may be the best available avenue to clear up a decent amount of cap space without a huge drop off to the next man in line.

I just think Morse is the leader of the oline and a vet that we need. We’ve seen how bad the line is when Morse is out. He’s not a liability at all. Yes we could save a few bucks but we need him 

[MrEpsYtown]

This dude can ball. Really good feet. Quiet pass set. He’s a technician, but nasty and like Torrence trying to drive guys into the ground. He ran a really slow 40. Other than that his athletic testing is very good. You guys are going to love him, you can’t just look at fancy highlighted scores on websites when analyzing OL. 

[SCBills]

9 minutes ago, DJB said:

He’s the leader on the line and does so much for Josh. He’s certainly not a liability and if he gets hurt he goes to IR and we save cap anyways 

I just think Morse is the leader of the oline and a vet that we need. We’ve seen how bad the line is when Morse is out. He’s not a liability at all. Yes we could save a few bucks but we need him 

I don’t want to let go of Morse either, but the OL was bad when he was out, partly due to lack of talent around him.  
 

The OL looks much improved as we sit here today, not even accounting for a jump the staff is clearly banking on from Spencer Brown. 

[syhuang]

1 hour ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

Besides the first 2 rds this draft is a F+ to me. 

 

Usually I just laugh at rant like this but now I'm getting curious on why you give it a F+ instead F-. For rant pros, they usually just say F or F-, but you go out your way to add a +.

 

Or you simply thought F+ is worse than F and made a rookie mistake here? 😁

[Bob in STL]

1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Anderson and Tenuta the last two late round OL did not make the roster. 

This guy will have an uphill battle to make it too

Of course he is a long shot, all 7th rounders are.  
 

Anderson was poached off of the PS by the Giants and he played in a few games last year. 
 

Tenuta is in the Packers organization, probably a PS guy. 

[newcam2012]

3 minutes ago, syhuang said:

 

Usually I just laugh at rant like this but now I'm getting curious on why you give it a F+ instead F-. For rant pros, they usually just say F or F-, but you go out your way to add a +.

 

Or you simply thought F+ is worse than F and made a rookie mistake here? 😁

You can't discount the first two picks and then give a grade. 

[Comebackkid]

1 hour ago, HOUSE said:

This guy is more Broker then me

I like it 

 

hopefully less broken down 🤔😎

.

 

 

 

[finn]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

I think he's just tired of watching Josh get killed.

I'm guessing he was horrified seeing Bates and Saffold play. Bates was at least uneven; Saffold was an atrocity and would have been benched if any reserve at all was ready. Now Beane appears to be overcompensating. 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

17 minutes ago, Bob in STL said:

Of course he is a long shot, all 7th rounders are.  
 

Anderson was poached off of the PS by the Giants and he played in a few games last year. 
 

Tenuta is in the Packers organization, probably a PS guy. 

Like I said he will have a hard time making the roster.  

But I love the investment in the OL. If he can pass block in the SEC he may be ok in the NFL. Will push Edwards and Boettger for a final roster spot and then be a 17 week inactive if everyone stays healthy. 

[JDubya76]

23 minutes ago, syhuang said:

 

Usually I just laugh at rant like this but now I'm getting curious on why you give it a F+ instead F-. For rant pros, they usually just say F or F-, but you go out your way to add a +.

 

Or you simply thought F+ is worse than F and made a rookie mistake here? 😁

He’s identifying as grading fluid today 

[Ethan in Cleveland]

3 minutes ago, finn said:

I'm guessing he was horrified seeing Bates and Saffold play. Bates was at least uneven; Saffold was an atrocity and would have been benched if any reserve at all was ready. Now Beane appears to be overcompensating. 

He should have been more horrified watching Brown pass block. Nothing to address OT. At some point you just have to live with some warts.

[Arkady Renko]

2 hours ago, Wizard said:

Beane seems to have a fetish for positions. One year it was defensive ends. We are in the too light to play linebacker fetish, and we have started the “get 15 OG’s and hope 4 are above average.”

 

I hope next year he picks 3 DT’s that are 330lbs+

Don’t kink shame, brah. 

[finn]

4 minutes ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

He should have been more horrified watching Brown pass block. Nothing to address OT. At some point you just have to live with some warts.

My fear is that Beane is overcompensating there, too--for letting Wyatt Teller go to the Browns. Will he stick with Brown even if the evidence continues to pile up that he's over his head? I'm trying to be optimistic, but visions of Brown being ragdolled by Melvin Ingram in the AFC championship game are hard to shake. 

[Warriorspikes51]

42 minutes ago, MrEpsYtown said:

This dude can ball. Really good feet. Quiet pass set. He’s a technician, but nasty and like Torrence trying to drive guys into the ground. He ran a really slow 40. Other than that his athletic testing is very good. You guys are going to love him, you can’t just look at fancy highlighted scores on websites when analyzing OL. 

good. We badly needed more nasty on the OL 

[jaybills]

I don't understand being butthurt about 7th round picks. The LB in the 3rd is understandable. Only problem I had in this year's draft. 

[In Summary]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

A lot of guards on the team now. It makes me wonder if Morse could be a surprise cut or trade to free up some cap space? Bates could slide in at center without too much drop off. Just a thought.

If Morse is the best center, then I don't see him going anywhere. Now when he gets a concussion, it's Bates.

[billsfan89]

I love taking more Oline help, but that Oline room is looking crowded in a good way. Hopefully they find a way to keep all of the talent.

[boyst]

3 hours ago, NoSaint said:

welcome to the practice squad 

A backup center who knows the system, has reps with Josh while buried behind an concussed Morse isn't awful.

 

This is a solid move. 

3 hours ago, NoSaint said:

welcome to the practice squad 

A backup center who knows the system, has reps with Josh while buried behind an concussed Morse isn't awful.

 

This is a solid move. 

[NickelCity]

McGovern

Bates

Torrence

Edwards (OT maybe?)

Broeker

Boettger 

Mancz

 

----

 

I don't think Boettger and Mancz make it. Edwards a big unknown imo. I have a hunch Broeker will make the 53.

 

[Dablitzkrieg]

4 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

Besides the first 2 rds this draft is a F+ to me. 

We don't care

37 minutes ago, boyst said:

A backup center who knows the system, has reps with Josh while buried behind an concussed Morse isn't awful.

 

This is a solid move. 

A backup center who knows the system, has reps with Josh while buried behind an concussed Morse isn't awful.

 

This is a solid move. 

Ok

 

Ok

[Saint Doug]

3 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

 

 

Can play OT and G
 

0 sacks allowed in 472 pass block snaps

Love it. Watch the video on this site. This guy looks like a mean SOB. Driving people into the ground. 

[Dablitzkrieg]

He took Kent Hulls #.  It should be retired 

[Chaos]

Broeker may be competition for Spencer Brown. 

[Ralonzo]

Looks a little grabby to me in the highlights, which is fine when they don't call it.

[Trogdor]

3 hours ago, BillsFan4 said:

He was a starter at left tackle in college for 3 years then switched to guard this past season. Looks like he’s probably more suited for guard in the NFL though.

That's what I'm saying, I don't want them playing a guy at tackle who got kicked inside in college. Bills don't develop well enough to move players around like they do. 

[Sierra Foothills]

6 hours ago, Augie said:

He seems equal parts versatile and likable. Hoping he becomes a gem.  

 

Kiper had him as the 9th most likable interior O-lineman in this draft.

 

6 hours ago, ColoradoBills said:

They are not getting executed.  Let's see how Jones and Settle play this season.  Another in next years draft and an UFA and it's full.

Next year is next year and I'm quite sure Beane can read a roster.

 

No DTs under contract for 2024 but yes, they're not getting executed or even assassinated. We'll be fine. One re-signing, one free agent, one draft pick...

 

6 hours ago, Aussie Joe said:

I don’t think Morse is going anywhere in 2023… they love him …maybe Bates gets traded instead?.

 

They love Bates too. I don't think either of them get traded any time soon.

 

6 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

Can play OT and G
 

0 sacks allowed in 472 pass block snaps

 

In the SEC, no less.

 

6 hours ago, Dr. Who said:

It's an excellent seventh round pick.

 

Agreed!

 

5 hours ago, MrEpsYtown said:

This dude can ball. Really good feet. Quiet pass set. He’s a technician, but nasty and like Torrence trying to drive guys into the ground. He ran a really slow 40. Other than that his athletic testing is very good. You guys are going to love him, you can’t just look at fancy highlighted scores on websites when analyzing OL. 

 

Technician for sure. Mean streak. Tenacious. I like his wide base and his hand placement is excellent. He also seems to have a good sense of his surroundings and understands leverages and angles.

 

5 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

He should have been more horrified watching Brown pass block. Nothing to address OT. At some point you just have to live with some warts.

 

It looks like Beane really meant all the nice things he said earlier in the week about Spencer Brown. Apparently they really have faith in him.

 

2 hours ago, Saint Doug said:

Love it. Watch the video on this site. This guy looks like a mean SOB. Driving people into the ground. 

 

I could see this guy playing in the NFL.

 

[NastyNateSoldiers]

6 hours ago, syhuang said:

 

Usually I just laugh at rant like this but now I'm getting curious on why you give it a F+ instead F-. For rant pros, they usually just say F or F-, but you go out your way to add a +.

 

Or you simply thought F+ is worse than F and made a rookie mistake here? 😁

I gave them the + for trying, 😂 

[Richard Noggin]

9 hours ago, Green Lightning said:

May be the best for him as well. His brain will be slush of he gets another concussion. 

 

I think the irony in this sentence is fun. No offense, of course. But to be so judgmental whilst also being human/flawed is hilarious. 

 

Mitch Morse didn't suffer a single head injury in 2022, right? His long-term cognitive prognosis is therefore probably just fine even IF/WHEN he suffers another concussion. I'll bet he and his family and medical team have an agreed upon protocol for future concussions. I'll bet they've done a lot of research and developed a specific gameplan. 

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, NickelCity said:

McGovern

Bates

Torrence

Edwards (OT maybe?)

Broeker

Boettger 

Mancz

 

----

 

I don't think Boettger and Mancz make it. Edwards a big unknown imo. I have a hunch Broeker will make the 53.

 

We’re gonna trade like a couple of these guys

29 minutes ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

I think the irony in this sentence is fun. No offense, of course. But to be so judgmental whilst also being human/flawed is hilarious. 

 

Mitch Morse didn't suffer a single head injury in 2022, right? His long-term cognitive prognosis is therefore probably just fine even IF/WHEN he suffers another concussion. I'll bet he and his family and medical team have an agreed upon protocol for future concussions. I'll bet they've done a lot of research and developed a specific gameplan. 

I could be wrong on this, but I thought that Mitch Morse did in fact suffer a concussion last year

[John from Riverside]

5 hours ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

He took Kent Hulls #.  It should be retired 

I believe that he won an award that was named after Kent hull

[Matt_In_NH]

9 hours ago, billsfan89 said:

I love taking more Oline help, but that Oline room is looking crowded in a good way. Hopefully they find a way to keep all of the talent.

Lots of experience including backups but talent wise not so sure its deep

[MAJBobby]

A traditional Move OG. Very good movement. A bit of a weak anchor and weak at POA. But has the frame to add functional strengths. 
 

played OT as well so that shows the lateral movement ability. Will be a OG/OC in the league though. Won’t offer much at OT in NFL. 
 

very smart and has very good technique. A very technical player. Tremendous value in 7th round. I had a 5/6 grade on him. 

Edited April 30, 2023 by MAJBobby

[Green Lightning]

7 hours ago, Richard Noggin said:

 

I think the irony in this sentence is fun. No offense, of course. But to be so judgmental whilst also being human/flawed is hilarious. 

 

Mitch Morse didn't suffer a single head injury in 2022, right? His long-term cognitive prognosis is therefore probably just fine even IF/WHEN he suffers another concussion. I'll bet he and his family and medical team have an agreed upon protocol for future concussions. I'll bet they've done a lot of research and developed a specific gameplan. 

Wrong. Had a concussion last year, his 6th in 8 years.

 

https://www-buffalorumblings-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.buffalorumblings.com/platform/amp/2022/12/19/23515725/mitch-morse-concussion-history-bills-chiefs?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQIUAKwASCAAgM%3D#amp_tf=From %1%24s&aoh=16828678022805&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.buffalorumblings.com%2F2022%2F12%2F19%2F23515725%2Fmitch-morse-concussion-history-bills-chiefs

 

[BADOLBILZ]

2 hours ago, MAJBobby said:

A traditional Move OG. Very good movement. A bit of a weak anchor and weak at POA. But has the frame to add functional strengths. 
 

played OT as well so that shows the lateral movement ability. Will be a OG/OC in the league though. Won’t offer much at OT in NFL. 
 

very smart and has very good technique. A very technical player. Tremendous value in 7th round. I had a 5/6 grade on him. 

 

 

And he was a good value as a 5th round type(where I took him in the Matt Miller 7 round draft thread).     There are years where the positional depth isn't good at guard where he could have been a top 100 pick.    Beane seemed to indicate that he just stuck out as the best player.........which is how the draft should be treated.   Needs change fast.   You pass on a guy with starting potential late in the draft one year and you may find yourself reaching for one early the next year.    

[DCbillsfan]

15 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Like I said he will have a hard time making the roster.  

But I love the investment in the OL. If he can pass block in the SEC he may be ok in the NFL. Will push Edwards and Boettger for a final roster spot and then be a 17 week inactive if everyone stays healthy. 

I think there's room for 10 OL on the 53.  6 WR (Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Sherfield, Harty, and Shorter), 3 TE (Knox, Kincaid, Morris), 4 RB (Cook, Hines, Harris, ??), and 2 QB (Allen x 2).  Doyle is coming off an ACL tear.  He may not be ready to go at start of season.  If Broeker shows enough in training camp, I believe there's a path for him to make 53. Dawkins, McGovern, Morse, Torrence, Brown, Quessenberry, Bates, Edwards, Boettger, and Broeker/Doyle.

[John from Riverside]

9 hours ago, NastyNateSoldiers said:

I gave them the + for trying, 😂 

You’re entitled to your opinion

4 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said:

I think there's room for 10 OL on the 53.  6 WR (Diggs, Davis, Shakir, Sherfield, Harty, and Shorter), 3 TE (Knox, Kincaid, Morris), 4 RB (Cook, Hines, Harris, ??), and 2 QB (Allen x 2).  Doyle is coming off an ACL tear.  He may not be ready to go at start of season.  If Broeker shows enough in training camp, I believe there's a path for him to make 53. Dawkins, McGovern, Morse, Torrence, Brown, Quessenberry, Bates, Edwards, Boettger, and Broeker/Doyle.

I think either Bogner where Doyle or both get traded for draft picks

 

The general manager is on a mission to get as many draft picks in next year’s draft as possible. We are up to 10 right now.