JohnNord Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Both of my choices are Tom Donahue picks: 2003 Willis MaGahee This was a complete surprise for me as Travis Henry had a monster year. I even remember ESPN (probably Kiper) saying this was a luxury pick that the Bills roster wasn’t in a position to make. Willis was a good though not a great running back. The selection was not worth the gamble or the 1 year recovery. 2004 JP Losman I didn’t remember any chatter about the Bills taking a QB so the Losman pick came as a surprise. Trading away a 1st rounder in 2005 and whiffing on Losman made this a brutal selection was the final draft pick TD would make as GM. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) Easily Whitner over Ngata. Never saw that coming and was stunned when they didn’t call Ngata’s name. Edited April 13, 2023 by Alphadawg7 9 11 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I'm Spartacus Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Rashad Wildgoose...i was surprised he had such a cool name. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I would have to say TJ Graham in the 2012 3rd round. Russ Wilson was on the board and there had been murmurs about "can't measure the heart of a player" that Nix liked him. It was evident at that point that the Bills really needed to draft and develop a QB. Kirk Cousins was also on the board. A 3rd round pick would be a totally reasonable investment in a guy who could learn behind Fitzpatrick. So the Bills traded up and my pulse accelerated and I was thinking "they're gonna draft Wilson!"...."TJ WHO?" The Bills got 31 games and 54 receptions out of Graham in 2 seasons. In the same 2 seasons, Russ Wilson lead the Seahawks to the Divisional Round and won a Superbowl. Then in 2013, one of the worst QB classes ever, the Bills drafted EJ Manuel. 2 1 6 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJGauna Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Who can forget when Buffalo drafted Leif Olve Dolonen Larsen! 5 picks later Tom Brady was drafted. So close lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Wrong Josh. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrEpsYtown Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 EJ Manuel. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROCBillsBeliever Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) Terrell Bernard was a shock, given that there were a number of good OL prospects on the board at the time, we needed OL upgrades, we had (yes... Past tense) Edmunds and have Milano, and Bernard was an unknown Meh kinda prospect. Edited April 14, 2023 by ROCBillsBeliever 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldTimer1960 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Dante Whitner. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I would have to say TJ Graham in the 2012 3rd round. Russ Wilson was on the board and there had been murmurs about "can't measure the heart of a player" that Nix liked him. It was evident at that point that the Bills really needed to draft and develop a QB. Kirk Cousins was also on the board. A 3rd round pick would be a totally reasonable investment in a guy who could learn behind Fitzpatrick. So the Bills traded up and my pulse accelerated and I was thinking "they're gonna draft Wilson!"...."TJ WHO?" The Bills got 31 games and 54 receptions out of Graham in 2 seasons. In the same 2 seasons, Russ Wilson lead the Seahawks to the Divisional Round and won a Superbowl. Then in 2013, one of the worst QB classes ever, the Bills drafted EJ Manuel. I still maintain that Nix meant to draft T Y Hilton at that pick, but they sent up the name TJ Graham by accident.....it sure sounds like something that particular front office would have been capable of doing! 1 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzo1105 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, ROCBillsBeliever said: Terrell Bernard was. Shock, given that there were a number of good OL prospects on the board at the time, we needed OL upgrades, we had (yes... Past tense) Edmunds and have Milano, and Bernard was an unknown Meh kinda prospect. Yup, I hated the pick on draft day and still do. Wasn't a big fan of the Elam pick either. He was decent for a rookie year 1 but he still has to prove he was worth the first round pick. Probably the trade up for Sammy Watkins would be the first thing to come to mind. Whitner and Maybin sucked as picks cause I wanted someone else but they weren't like shocking why the hell did we take him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sherlock Holmes Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) Troup over Gronk, Zay over Kupp Basham over Humpback Whale Edited April 14, 2023 by Sherlock Holmes 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
947 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Maybin I knew he was a bust in waiting, like everyone else. I didn't think anyone would take him in round 1, let alone us. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Watkins over Mack. I think everyone absolutely thought we traded up for the kid in our back yard. I remember dancing around like “ohhhhh snap we got Mack!”… then hearing Watkins just threw me off. I liked Watkins but not enough to trade up for him. Even with as good a prospect as he was thought to be, it just felt like a reach. 5 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 34 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said: Yup, I hated the pick on draft day and still do. Wasn't a big fan of the Elam pick either. He was decent for a rookie year 1 but he still has to prove he was worth the first round pick. Probably the trade up for Sammy Watkins would be the first thing to come to mind. Pretty much all of this. Hated the Bernard pick. Elam I got and I wasn't surprised but he wasn't my ideal pick. I didn't have a 1st on him and while I agree with you he was decent as a rookie (and I think they underplayed him) he is still an incomplete at this stage. I was also shocked by the trade up for Sammy. I think possibly even more so because of who we were and had been as an organisation to that point. We had not been a swing for the fences, make the big move, organisation in my fandom to that point then suddenly here we were going all in on a receiver when we didnt know if our QB could play (and I had Evans as my clear WR1 as well which didn't help me love the Sammy move). I remain convinced that was driven in part by the ownership situation at the time. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 whitner came to my mind first, but the watkins pick was more surprising to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Whitner...I still have a scar on my foot where I kicked a 25 lb dumbbell...Literally forgot I did not have shoes on I was so pissed... 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) McGahee definitely a shock, Sammy Watkins, Donte Whitner, Aaron Maybin and EJ Manuel were all head scratcher/WTF moments. CJ Spiller also a shock as really wanted Dez Bryant that draft and at time of getting Spiller we still had Lynch and Jackson on the roster and yes, I screamed WRONG JOSH! when we drafted the now beloved Josh Allen. Edited April 13, 2023 by The Jokeman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 I think Maybin epitomizes the kind of thinking that haunts 1 Bills Drive. Undersized, mostly unhearalded, played in a good college program surrounded by good players against mostly inferior competition. It's a formula that just never delivers in the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, I'm Spartacus said: Rashad Wildgoose...i was surprised he had such a cool name. Was really hoping he was going to work out for us if nothing else just for the Goose is loose jokes if nothing else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, dorquemada said: I think Maybin epitomizes the kind of thinking that haunts 1 Bills Drive. Undersized, mostly unhearalded, played in a good college program surrounded by good players against mostly inferior competition. It's a formula that just never delivers in the NFL I just thought of Corey Moore reading that 😒 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Basham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorquemada Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 minutes ago, BillsfaninSB said: Basham Yup, another middling guy with no real outstanding characteristics taken higher than he should have been but Beane loves him some DL regardless Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Leodis McKelvin. I had no idea they were even tracking on him. I was expecting Josh Rosen. Spiller and Whitner didn’t surprise me, but I didn’t believe (or hoped) the rumors weren’t true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted April 13, 2023 Author Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, gonzo1105 said: Yup, I hated the pick on draft day and still do. Wasn't a big fan of the Elam pick either. He was decent for a rookie year 1 but he still has to prove he was worth the first round pick. Probably the trade up for Sammy Watkins would be the first thing to come to mind. Whitner and Maybin sucked as picks cause I wanted someone else but they weren't like shocking why the hell did we take him. I absolutely hate the Bernard pick. Waste of a 3rd rounder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 McGahee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, JohnNord said: Both of my choices are Tom Donahue picks: 2003 Willis MaGahee This was a complete surprise for me as Travis Henry had a monster year. I even remember ESPN (probably Kiper) saying this was a luxury pick that the Bills roster wasn’t in a position to make. Willis was a good though not a great running back. The selection was not worth the gamble or the 1 year recovery. 2004 JP Losman I didn’t remember any chatter about the Bills taking a QB so the Losman pick came as a surprise. Trading away a 1st rounder in 2005 and whiffing on Losman made this a brutal selection was the final draft pick TD would make as GM. I'm a little confused by your post. 1. I actually expected Buffalo to take McGahee, given the value. He was a likely top 5 pick who fell. It would be like if Jalen Carter fell to 27 this year. Of course we would take him. And Buffalo had a reputation for shocking then world back then on draft day, like when traded our first the previous year for Bledsoe. 2. As for Losman, there was huge talk of Buffalo wanting a QB that year. We desperately wanted Roethlisberger and almost had him. Edited April 13, 2023 by chongli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCal Deek Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 OJ Simpson….talk about a ‘reach’! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yantha Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Zack Moss. You can go back and search.... The moment he was picked, I said WASTED PICK....... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boyst Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Whitmer, Spiller, Rousseau, Losman. Watkins I didn't want at all and was amazed we moved up like that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: Easily Whitner over Ngata. Never saw that coming and was stunned when they didn’t call Ngata’s name. Dick Jauron, a new coach, needed players who fit his Tampa 2 defense. Whitner fit the role, as did McCargo, who was the only player in the draft who could play NT in his system. That's why he had to trade up for him. 1 hour ago, KingBoots8 said: Watkins over Mack. I think everyone absolutely thought we traded up for the kid in our back yard. I remember dancing around like “ohhhhh snap we got Mack!”… then hearing Watkins just threw me off. I liked Watkins but not enough to trade up for him. Even with as good a prospect as he was thought to be, it just felt like a reach. Whaley needed a star WR for his prodigy, EJ Manuel, to throw to. I was not surprised by the Watkins pick. Edited April 13, 2023 by chongli 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schick Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, chongli said: Dick Jauron, a new coach, needed players who fit his Tampa 2 defense. Whitner fit the role, as did McCargo, who was the only player in the draft who could play NT in his system. That's why he had to trade up for him. Remember the revolving door of players that need to come and go to fit into the D-coordinator's (who usually lasted about 2 years) system? So painful. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingBoots8 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 6 minutes ago, chongli said: Dick Jauron, a new coach, needed players who fit his Tampa 2 defense. Whitner fit the role, as did McCargo, who was the only player in the draft who could play NT in his system. That's why he had to trade up for him. Whaley needed a star WR for his prodigy, EJ Manuel, to throw to. I was not surprised by the Watkins pick. It was more the trade up for him that shocked me, less the pick. If we sat still and got him I’d have been fine, but a move up in what was known as a deep WR class was surprising 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 The Beane drafts 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Whitner and it's not even close. Watkins there was a lot of reports that Whaley loved him and was trying to trade up. So when it happened it wasn't exactly a surprise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Applicable Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Chuck Schick said: Remember the revolving door of players that need to come and go to fit into the D-coordinator's (who usually lasted about 2 years) system? So painful. Pat Williams and Sam Adams were let go so that we could focus on smaller DTs who could supposedly get pressure more quickly. Enter McCargo and Larry Tripplett. Good Lord. It would difficult to have a bigger downgrade at a position if you were actively trying to sabotage a team. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 1 hour ago, KingBoots8 said: Watkins over Mack. I think everyone absolutely thought we traded up for the kid in our back yard. I remember dancing around like “ohhhhh snap we got Mack!”… then hearing Watkins just threw me off. I liked Watkins but not enough to trade up for him. Even with as good a prospect as he was thought to be, it just felt like a reach. ^^ this one^^ We traded up and I was screaming Mack is coming back home and then…….. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 2 hours ago, gonzo1105 said: Yup, I hated the pick on draft day and still do. Wasn't a big fan of the Elam pick either. He was decent for a rookie year 1 but he still has to prove he was worth the first round pick. Probably the trade up for Sammy Watkins would be the first thing to come to mind. Whitner and Maybin sucked as picks cause I wanted someone else but they weren't like shocking why the hell did we take him. I thought by years end Elam had clearly cemented himself in the starters role opposite White. It’s hard to argue with McDermott when it comes to the handling of the secondary but I would’ve liked to have seen Elam start from day one. Elam’s upside over the other corners on the roster is immense IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 Willis McGahee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted April 13, 2023 Share Posted April 13, 2023 (edited) Bernard: who, why? We have LBs. Basham: what, we just drafted a DE, and the top IOL is on the board, and we need OL help. TJ Grham: Really thought we would draft R. Wilson. What a terrible, awful pick, trading up and then grabbing a JAG receiver. Edited April 13, 2023 by RyanC883 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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