Kirby Jackson Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 minute ago, RocCityRoller said: Good way to look at it. McGovern is a > vs any OG Sherfield > McKenzie/Crowder/Kumerow Harty = McKenzie Harris > Singletary doesn't mean not drafting those spots again I actually believe Harty to be the most impactful offensive addition. He’s the guy that adds a dimension that they have been lacking. The rest of the additions are either slight upgrades on their predessors (Sherfield > Kumerow, McGovern > Saffold) or slight downgrades (Harris < Motor) IMO. Harty is a dynamic playmaker that can make things happen on his own. The offense has gotten better overall. They needed to. They needed people that can keep Josh upright and people that can take the ball to the house on their own. Hines has some of that as well and was used sparingly. They still need another WR near the top of the depth chart that can win at all 3 levels. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: Who did Singletary sign with? Houston. 1 yr, "up to" $3.75M, details not yet known. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mopreme Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 He was my third choice after Miles Sanders and Jamaal Williams. I like it especially if they got him under $3mil a year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
balln Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 44 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: D line at 27 book it. Just told my dad the same thing. it’s D all day first round. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 how much tho? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, balln said: Just told my dad the same thing. it’s D all day first round. TE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 32 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: Honestly don’t care for this. Why did we need strictly a runner - he offers nothing in the passing game. Against an Allen offense you should be worried about every weapon on the field. Because we struggle to get tough yards when we only need a couple. It’s been a big problem for a few years. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, Mopreme said: He was my third choice after Miles Sanders and Jamaal Williams. I like it especially if they got him under $3mil a year. Again, not going to happen. His estimated market value was on par with Miles Sanders and David Montgomery as the highest in FA. If Singletary got 3.75 - I'd be shocked if Harris came under 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 4 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said: 100% the draft is another story... outside if JA = weak. Heck McDermott landed Dawkins/ White and Milano in one draft. 2-3 drafts like that = Super Bowl May want to let coach in the room on draft day..... but what do we know..... McD is in the room...like he is during all off-season. In fact, his vision is how you end up going defense in RD1 the past 5 out of 7 years of his tenure. And there are some long-time posters here seeing it could be 6 out of 8. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brianmoorman4jesus Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Thank you! I feel like I'm taking crazy pills listening to people say he's "jag", saying it's a bad move if he came for more than 2 million, or paying him more than Singletary is a "bad tradeoff". We could not stop this guy in the game that cam Newton blew. The only thing stopping Harris was the patriots playcalling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beck Water Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: I actually believe Harty to be the most impactful offensive addition. He’s the guy that adds a dimension that they have been lacking. (...) Harty is a dynamic playmaker that can make things happen on his own. Maybe he's an upgrade. Or maybe he's an oft-injured smurf who will struggle to stay healthy, and Allen will struggle to make on-time throws to him that allow his calling card of better YAC. In his best year 2021, he had more catches and more yards in fewer snaps than McKenzie had last season. Please don't get me wrong, I'm reasonably happy with the additions the Bills have made and with their decisions to move on from some good players who made solid contributions like Singletary. I hope they will contribute, and well. But I find it hard to put stock in them as "sure bets" at this point. 8 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: The offense has gotten better overall. They needed to. They needed people that can keep Josh upright and people that can take the ball to the house on their own. Hines has some of that as well and was used sparingly. They still need another WR near the top of the depth chart that can win at all 3 levels. I hope you're correct, but that's hanging a lot on a Cowboys backup guard and a WR who had 2 targets and 2 receptions in 4 games last season before going on IR. Edited March 21, 2023 by Beck Water Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsVet Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, ScottLaw said: And then get pummeled in the playoffs…. Scott...why do you have to be such a buzzkill and let the cat out of the bag? We're celebrating RB signings to set up more defense in RD1 for goodness sakes! Come on dude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TC in St. Louis Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 I'm not concerned about his salary. If Beane needs more cap space, he'll create it. We're only gonna run the ball 20-25 times a game anyway. This adds to the threat. I'd like them to draft the tight end from Georgia. I don't know how teams will know who to cover. By the way, I read that Harris caught something like 40 of 50 targets 2 years ago, so I think that shows he can catch the ball out of the backfield. I don't think we'll take a linebacker or safety in the first round....unless somebody unexpected drops to us. I do see Beane moving down a few spots to where the value matches the need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 22 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Elliot and a comp pick > Harris If this is the RB room, they are fine. That’s EXACTLY what I said. If they took McBride or Bigsby in the middle of the draft, they would have been fine. I don’t see this is anything more than raising the floor (which is okay). I agree, raises the floor and compliments the existing backs.... No problems with the signing. I also like the Sherfield signing today. Excellent options in week two of FA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 13 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said: This guy is a monster and IMO one of the best RBs in the league. He runs so hard I love this. I like the signing but there's 8 pages of responses that end in "if he can stay healthy"..... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnBonhamRocks Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, LABILLBACKER said: I like the signing but there's 8 pages of responses that end in "if he can stay healthy"..... Don’t forget “if the price is right” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said: Wow. There is the Bills 35% snaps RB. Who when he steps onto the field the opposing D will pretty much know it's a running play. LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Beck Water said: Maybe he's an upgrade. Or maybe he's an oft-injured smurf who will struggle to stay healthy, and Allen will struggle to make on-time throws to him that allow his calling card of better YAC. In his best year 2021, he had more catches and more yards in fewer snaps than McKenzie had last season. I hope you're correct, but that's hanging a lot on a Cowboys backup guard and a WR who had 2 targets and 2 receptions in 4 games last season before going on IR. They aren’t where they need to be, but they are incrementally better. Harty is a threat but he is 5’6” (or whatever) coming off a turf toe injury. He’s certainly a ? but was dynamic or a per target basis in NOLA. They LOVED him. He adds that “big play ability.” These other additions are minor upgrades IMO. The offense regressed last year. I’m hoping Dorsey improves this year as well. This offense is still dependent on Josh to carry them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Just now, PBF81 said: Who when he steps onto the field the opposing D will pretty much know it's a running play. LOL unless he's blocking for a pass. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, TC in St. Louis said: I'm not concerned about his salary. If Beane needs more cap space, he'll create it. We're only gonna run the ball 20-25 times a game anyway. This adds to the threat. I'd like them to draft the tight end from Georgia. I don't know how teams will know who to cover. By the way, I read that Harris caught something like 40 of 50 targets 2 years ago, so I think that shows he can catch the ball out of the backfield. I don't think we'll take a linebacker or safety in the first round....unless somebody unexpected drops to us. I do see Beane moving down a few spots to where the value matches the need. Career high in catches is only 18, so I suspect Cook or even Hines will be on the field on 3rd downs. It’s still a good addition though. He’s instantly our best short yardage back and brings more of a power element than we’ve had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 MASSIVE UPGRADE to our run game over what Dingleberry brought. This is a GREAT DAY!!!! LETS GOOOOOOO!!!!! 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanNH Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 31 minutes ago, Kirby Jackson said: Why is he better? They have the same YPC. Motor has been way more durable while playing in a less run-friendly offense. Motor is also a superior reciever. Again, Harris is a decent back. He raises the floor. Same yards per carry and Harris has like 3X the workload… but you think they are the same? (Face palm) 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 minute ago, PBF81 said: Who when he steps onto the field the opposing D will pretty much know it's a running play. LOL Well, if you think he runs 100% of the time he is on the field, then you would be right. How about his pass blocking? Hmmmm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 44 minutes ago, JohnBonhamRocks said: https://youtu.be/AiZzxhwLMYQ Dude. Runs. Hard. I like how he makes a decision on his one cut, plants, and goes. He has speed and he finishes runs punishingly. Good vision. A lot of nice plays against the Bills in the above highlight video. Fits the profile to balance with Cook and Hines. Only age 26. Also good to take from NE*. His draft profile: Disciplined and rugged with a very strong sense of who he is as a running back. He operates with a good feel for blocking schemes and finds the designed yards while adding extra with his power and some elusiveness. He lacks game-breaking juice as a runner and will need to keep his weight down or he'll end up in the "grinder" category of runners. Harris is more likely to be good than great as a pro, but his size, every-down game and ball security give him a chance to have fruitful career as a solid starter. Runs like Marshawn Lynch. A bruiser who doesn't stop. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Direct upgrade to Singletary at RB2. Well done. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 14 minutes ago, Maine-iac said: 3 games last year with "thigh injury" couple with a hamstring and a concussion but I didn't check which season that was. He's missed 6 plus games in all but one season near as I can tell. Unless he was a healthy scratch for some games. He was a healthy scratch for most of his rookie season. Hopefully this is the every other season he stays healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 minute ago, PatsFanNH said: Same yards per carry and Harris has like 3X the workload… but you think they are the same? (Face palm) You also have to consider the offenses Singletary and Harris played in. It’s safe to say that defenses were much more concerned about the pass vs the Bills resulting in more light boxes to run against for Singletary compared to Harris. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perk71 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Great signing imho... Go Bills!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirby Jackson Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Same yards per carry and Harris has like 3X the workload… but you think they are the same? (Face palm) Lol, what are you taking about?!? Singletary has 368 more touches!! You think by just making up numbers, people will believe you?? 😂😂 I don’t think they are the same. I think Singletary is slightly better. He’s more durable and a better receiver. Edited March 21, 2023 by Kirby Jackson 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JerseyBills Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Phenomenal! I love all 4 offensive pick ups. Absolutely love it. Low risk, high reward on all of them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maine-iac Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, PatsFanNH said: Same yards per carry and Harris has like 3X the workload… but you think they are the same? (Face palm) by 3 times you are you referring to the one season Harris played more than 11 games and had 14 more carries than Singletary? Edited March 21, 2023 by Maine-iac Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 6 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: I like the signing but there's 8 pages of responses that end in "if he can stay healthy"..... 2020: 10/16 games played 2021: 15/17 games played 2022: 11/17 games played, 9/11 started It's all grounded in reality... but he can only be as deadly as our offensive line and Dorsey allow him to be, which will be a lot more concerning to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 Do you guys think the Bills keep Hines this year? He's gonna be getting paid a million more than Singletary is getting with the Texans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 hour ago, Kirby Jackson said: Lol, sorry to burst your bubble. They signed a decent rotational back with injury history. You are calling me “a dick” for calling it like it is. He’s okay but doesn’t deserve a key to the city or a parade. He won’t get the key to the city … TO never returned it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 40 minutes ago, Dablitzkrieg said: I'll call a hooker Have her bring a lot of KY, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TOboy Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 minute ago, Lost said: Do you guys think the Bills keep Hines this year? He's gonna be getting paid a million more than Singletary is getting with the Texans. Yes. He restructured last week. I believe got a bit more guaranteed, but lowered the cap hit. Seems unlikely he’ll be cut. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lost said: Do you guys think the Bills keep Hines this year? He's gonna be getting paid a million more than Singletary is getting with the Texans. Hines took a restructure to lower his cap hit and stay with the team. He's not going anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 1 minute ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: 2020: 10/16 games played 2021: 15/17 games played 2022: 11/17 games played, 9/11 started It's all grounded in reality... but he can only be as deadly as our offensive line and Dorsey allow him to be, which will be a lot more concerning to me! Given how little RBs are asked to run between the tackles here, I think he is fine. It's not like Bill Belichick to mess with the injury report based on matchups...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 21, 2023 Share Posted March 21, 2023 2 minutes ago, Lost said: Do you guys think the Bills keep Hines this year? He's gonna be getting paid a million more than Singletary is getting with the Texans. His contract got restructured to create space this year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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