Motor to Texans

[Jauronimo]

Just now, I am the egg man said:

Glad to be rid of the ‘Motor’ moniker. Never got it.

 

…..if only that other ‘M’ one could be gotten rid of.

Cut your mother some slack.  Its the only one you've got.

[Mister Defense]

16 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

James Cook is a 2nd round draft pick and the starter for the Buffalo Bills.

He will take 65% of the snaps just like Devin did last year.

 

Just like people said McKenzie would fill in so admirably for Beasley this season in the slot...

 

With no proven experience as an every game starter, people pointed to the few big games he has had a sign of his ability as a starter.

 

Cook was not ever a starter in college, not even close, and so we have no idea how he might perform as an every down back.

 

The Bills are now doing things they did when they sucked--making moves that are not sound, rational.

 

You don't eliminate a high quality starter when you have no one you know can replace him--especially when talking about less than a 4 million salary

 

One of the worst moves by Beane since he arrived, taking a sledge hammer to an area that was in great need of improvements.

[JohnBonhamRocks]

He’s a good solid RB and seems like a good dude as well. He and Jerry can enjoy the better weather together. 

[Freddie's Dead]

Sad day in Bills history.  Motor balled his ass off while here and gave 100% on every single play.  I don't get the haterz saying good riddance.  I hope he has a great career away from here.

 

Farewell, Devin Singletary, and we thank you.

Edited March 20, 2023 by Freddie's Dead

[DrDawkinstein]

5 minutes ago, Over 29 years of fanhood said:

Lousy deal for him

 

This is the RB market. Only one getting any type of money is Barkley and only because he got tagged.

 

edit: And to anyone bagging on the Bills about this move, there is a reason he only got this deal and the market is so low for RBs.

Edited March 20, 2023 by DrDawkinstein

[HereComesTheReignAgain]

23 minutes ago, OZBILLS said:

Damn, who is going to be his "stop moving your legs before contact, 1 yard loss" replacement?

 

Happy with this, but watch him turn into Barry Sanders now

He averaged 4.6 yards per carry over the last 2 seasons. 

[Chaos]

4 minutes ago, par73 said:

Need an "every down" back now. Currently have 3rd down/gadjet guys.

We do have an every down runner, Josh Allen. 

[ColoradoBills]

4 minutes ago, par73 said:

Need an "every down" back now. Currently have 3rd down/gadjet guys.

 

85 of James Cook's 91 rushes were on 1st and 2nd down.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CookJa01/splits/2022/

[julian]

He served his roster purpose of decent production on a rookie contract, rinse and repeat

[Bleeding Bills Blue]

1 hour ago, HappyDays said:

3rd round comp pick here we come! I'm assuming Sherfield came in under $1.75 million.

 

Assuming they don't sign anyone they should be on track. 

 

Net loss

Edmunds

Keenum
Singletary

(johnson probably doesnt count)

 

Net Gain

Mcgovern

Harty

(Allen, and Sherfield probably don't count)

[Lost]

10 minutes ago, OZBILLS said:

 

Yeah, if your kid peaks at 5'10 or shorter, just disown them 

 

Well we did just signed 5'6 receiver for like 6 mil per year.

[US Egg]

10 minutes ago, Jauronimo said:

Cut your mother some slack.  Its the only one you've got.

Wow! Who says being too quick is a bad thing? You’re aces quick.

 

I rescinded my heresy like quip immediately and yet you were there to catch it.

Edited March 20, 2023 by I am the egg man

[JaCrispy]

1 hour ago, McBean said:

Thank God

Thinking the exact same thing- Beane won’t be tempted…👍

[folz]

Yeah, I was hoping that they would bring Motor back. Don't want to spend any draft capital on a RB and don't see anyone better than Devin left in FA. But, it is what it is. He probably wasn't going to make or break this season for the Bills either way. Just liked him as insurance in case Cook doesn't take that next step.

 

And I too thought he was better than a lot of fans gave him credit for (needed more opportunities and a better line) and I wish him nothing but the best in his career and life. He was a likable, solid player, who always put in his best and didn't mind doing the dirty work or not getting the praise. True team-first, Bills DNA.

 

Thanks Devin! I'll still be rooting for you!

[Mister Defense]

2 minutes ago, Chaos said:

We do have an every down runner, Josh Allen. 

 

The problem is this is what the leaders at one Bills Drive really seem to believe--still.  (But I assume you are saying it as a joke-?)

 

What a shame that the Bills' leaders, once so promising, have seemed to lose their way..

 

 

[Bookie Man]

42 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

 

I consider every day I make that much money to be a good day. But I guess it’s pocket change for some of you!   😋

You make that much money every day!? I hear ya!!

[Playoffs?]

55 minutes ago, Andy1 said:

Devin could easily be #7 on the list if we used him more.

That’s crazy. By the end of this season, Josh could be our 5th, 6th or 7th leading rusher of all time. 

[Augie]

7 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said:

 

85 of James Cook's 91 rushes were on 1st and 2nd down.

https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/C/CookJa01/splits/2022/

 

This is less about the RB and more on the OC, but it seemed (at least to me?) our personnel groupings were tipping what we were going to do too often. Dorsey may be great in the long run, but like any rookie I hope he makes a big leap in year 2. 

 

Now, back to your regularly scheduled RB debate. 

[babulator]

I never understood the hate for motor. Not everyone is going to be elite, but I thought he was a solid football player and likeable guy. Can't expect him to block DL's or LB's but I thought he did well in protection and was pretty elusive. His career stats say he can play ball. Get that money motor!

[Augie]

3 minutes ago, ßookie_tech said:

You make that much money every day!? I hear ya!!

 

Oh no, not at all! Some days I only make half that, yet somehow we manage to get by.    😋

[benderbender]

My only question is did we make an offer?

[eSJayDee]

For that figure, I'm disappointed we let him go.  "Up to $3.75" to me means, "probably $3 or less".  Minimum wage is over $1m after a few yrs experience.  Yes, he was lacking breakaway speed & he certainly wasn't the "big back" we're clamoring for, but our RBs aren't used that much, & for that amount of cap space, I think he would've been worth retaining.  Heck, a 2 yr "Up to $7.5m contract, w/ maybe a $2m SB & "minimum wage" this year & hold onto him this year & see if Cook really is worthy of getting the majority of playing time.

I can only hope this means we're bringing in a "big back" to be our #2.

[buffaloboyinATL]

I am sad to see him go, because I always believed he was a good runner, just underutilized.  That being said, I am excited to see what our backfield will look like this season.  

[ColoradoBills]

1 minute ago, babulator said:

I never understood the hate for motor. Not everyone is going to be elite, but I thought he was a solid football player and likeable guy. Can't expect him to block DL's or LB's but I thought he did well in protection and was pretty elusive. His career stats say he can play ball. Get that money motor!

 

I never hated Devin at all.  He's a good player and teammate.  It's just the way the RB world is in the NFL.

When Cook got drafted I think his chances of another contract in Buffalo was highly diminished.

[GoBills808]

3 minutes ago, Augie said:

 

This is less about the RB and more on the OC, but it seemed (at least to me?) our personnel groupings were tipping what we were going to do too often. Dorsey may be great in the long run, but like any rookie I hope he makes a big leap in year 2. 

 

Now, back to your regularly scheduled RB debate. 

They were the second best offense in the league. Not a ton of room for some big leap

[Norcalbillsfan]

As a pierce owner in fantasy football, I do not like this. As a Bills fan I'm glad the bills are going in a different direction 

[HurlyBurly51]

Bye

[Chaos]

18 minutes ago, Mister Defense said:

But I assume you are saying it as a joke-?

yes

[Ethan in Cleveland]

1 hour ago, ColoradoBills said:

That's it Bills fans.  It is going to mean if Beane signs a big dollar UFA before the draft it costs a 3rd round pick next year.

I doubt strongly he gives that up.  He's only going to sign vet minimum type guys to bring to camp to compete.

We can take a break from FA and look to the draft.

 

After the draft I see the RB signed.

Wagner was released and is not UFA. 

He should not count in the formula 

[Rigotz]

1 hour ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Under utilized his entire tenure in Buffalo. Still remember the playoff game vs. Houston a few years back where he was balling in the 1st half and in the 2nd half they completely went away from him and of course we lost. 

Under-utilized would imply that he provided a ton of value that was untapped.

 

His market was 1 year, up to $3.75M.

 

Seems like everyone knew what he was and preferred to trust a $30M/yr Superstar QB instead when it mattered.

[nucci]

1 hour ago, Dablitzkrieg said:

Damn, he didn't want a ring?

he goes where the offers are. I doubt the Chiefs tried to sign him

[SirAndrew]

13 minutes ago, eSJayDee said:

For that figure, I'm disappointed we let him go.  "Up to $3.75" to me means, "probably $3 or less".  Minimum wage is over $1m after a few yrs experience.  Yes, he was lacking breakaway speed & he certainly wasn't the "big back" we're clamoring for, but our RBs aren't used that much, & for that amount of cap space, I think he would've been worth retaining.  Heck, a 2 yr "Up to $7.5m contract, w/ maybe a $2m SB & "minimum wage" this year & hold onto him this year & see if Cook really is worthy of getting the majority of playing time.

I can only hope this means we're bringing in a "big back" to be our #2.

I’m not disappointed as you are, but I find it slightly confusing. They obviously liked him better than Cook and Hines based on carries, but you let him walk for peanuts. 

[Paup 1995MVP]

1 hour ago, BillMafia716ix said:

Under utilized his entire tenure in Buffalo. Still remember the playoff game vs. Houston a few years back where he was balling in the 1st half and in the 2nd half they completely went away from him and of course we lost. 

Underutilized??  Do you think he had Thurman Thomas, Lasean McCoy or even Fred Jackson ability?!!  The guy was a decent RB at times.  Had stone hands out of the backfield.  But he was nothing that can not be replaced.  And did not have anything that would remotely be considered a unique skill set.  Time for a bigger bruising back who can carry would be tacklers

[SirAndrew]

1 hour ago, LABILLBACKER said:

The days of ever seeing an expensive big name RB in Buffalo is over.  It will be 4 year rookie contracts galore.  One after another. 

I agree, and I’m fine with it. I just hope McD gets over his rookie phobia to actually let these backs play more their rookie season. 

[Manther]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I think it is just “the market” that was terrible. Lot of RBs on these peanut deals. 

Agreed.

[NoSaint]

1 hour ago, ngbills said:

The guy our coaches chose to get PT over the two guys still on our roster leaves. The response is "look I knew he sucks, nobody wants to pay him". What does this say about the guys we have on our roster to replace him and our coaches? I didn't really care if motor resigned. But its always funny how subtraction is celebrated as we get better. 

hopefully it says that the rookie and the guy traded for at thanksgiving are ready to surpass what he gave us previously in the upcoming season 

[jlgarsh]

https://images.app.goo.gl/RJhSuofsuZDPF4K37

 

My reaction when I saw the news

[H2o]

Good for Singletary. He's accepted the role of backup. It's not a bad gig for the $$$. He's not gonna win this year, but RB's have to maximize their value as much as possible. 

[Rigotz]

26 minutes ago, benderbender said:

My only question is did we make an offer?

It’s crazy that people still don’t understand why we didn’t, even after Beane said they’re looking for a different body type.

 

We did not need Motor on offense. The skill set we needed was short distance running, pass blocking, and/or Special Teams. Motor is none of those things. Why would we make an offer?

[NoSaint]

26 minutes ago, eSJayDee said:

For that figure, I'm disappointed we let him go.  "Up to $3.75" to me means, "probably $3 or less".  Minimum wage is over $1m after a few yrs experience.  Yes, he was lacking breakaway speed & he certainly wasn't the "big back" we're clamoring for, but our RBs aren't used that much, & for that amount of cap space, I think he would've been worth retaining.  Heck, a 2 yr "Up to $7.5m contract, w/ maybe a $2m SB & "minimum wage" this year & hold onto him this year & see if Cook really is worthy of getting the majority of playing time.

I can only hope this means we're bringing in a "big back" to be our #2.

If we target a non qualifying back, we could be talking essentially trading motor for a third by letting him walk. Most would be ok with it in those terms.