JoPoy88 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 53 minutes ago, ganesh said: Josh is our short yardage TD machine I agree but don’t some people want him running less? 36 minutes ago, BananaB said: How many are 1 to 3 yarders? I mean I could look that up. Or you could 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victory Formation Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, DCbillsfan said: Another premium pick on a rb? Wonderbar All things equal, would you rather pay a RB $5M-$10M a year or 400k-600k a year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: All things equal, would you rather pay a RB $5M-$10M a year or 400k-600k a year? Gimme Isiah Pacheco the Chiefs 7th rd RB who just helped them win a Super Bowl. But if they keep running Allen on short yardage, they need a guy for short yardage and down inside the red zone. It's a major issue on offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
purple haze Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 21 minutes ago, Victory Formation said: It’s just incredibly underwhelming to me. What if Bijan is there? What about Zach Charbonnet in the 2nd? Or Kendre Miller in the 3rd? Shoot I’d rather we keep Singletary over this guy, it’s maddening. Can you guarantee Bijan is there when the Bills pick? Or any of the other players you mentioned? All those players are very good. They all could go before the Bills have a chance at them. Maybe Beane sees Williams as a good player who provides an element they need, at a price point that leaves him with enough resources to grab good players at other positions of need. These moves aren’t made in a vacuum. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I do wonder if they signed a RB like Williams if they’d release Hynes? He clearly wouldn’t be viewed at the #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcam2012 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, JoPoy88 said: For whatever reason he was a TD machine. Why not. Ben Johnson the OC was brilliant with his schemes and play calling. It won't be long that he will be a head coach. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEBills Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just draft a young cheap running back later in the draft in a stacked class please. Williams is not that good, Dan Campbell just committed a lot of plays to him last year, especially around the goal line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I do wonder if they signed a RB like Williams if they’d release Hynes? He clearly wouldn’t be viewed at the #2. I think they are trying to rework Hines to be that returner gadget guy and third running back 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: I agree but don’t some people want him running less? I mean I could look that up. Or you could I have no interest in looking it up. I know it’s a good percentage of his TDs and besides the TDs he really wasn’t that good. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 15 minutes ago, SCBills said: It’s interesting that with how buttoned up we clearly are, the only two rumored guys we are “interested” in are Henry and Williams. I haven't seen it reported that the Bills were interested in Derrick Henry. Just a "here's a cool idea" suggestion by a sports writer. Like the one in TBN about how the Bills should trade Elam and a 2nd rounder for Jalen Ramsey. They WERE at OBJ's workout and have been linked to him consistently though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 minutes ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: I do wonder if they signed a RB like Williams if they’d release Hynes? He clearly wouldn’t be viewed at the #2. Probably not. Although they play the same position, they don't fill the same role. I assume they're going to try to rework Hines' contract regardless of whatever else they do at RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 27. Only 4.1 YPC though Endzone was cutting off his runs lol 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 4 minutes ago, BADOLBILZ said: I haven't seen it reported that the Bills were interested in Derrick Henry. Just a "here's a cool idea" suggestion by a sports writer. Like the one in TBN about how the Bills should trade Elam and a 2nd rounder for Jalen Ramsey. They WERE at OBJ's workout and have been linked to him consistently though. Could just be conjecture out of thin air, but ESPN guys (albeit the Bart Scott squad) mentioned the Bills being interested in Henry. Same panel also thought Crowder was under contract next year though, so.. not hugely confident in ESPN’s non-Schefter reliability anymore. Edited March 12, 2023 by SCBills 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transplantbillsfan Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: 27. Only 4.1 YPC though Only...? Considering the number of 1 yard TD runs and 3rd and shorts that's pretty incredible Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) Sorry, if you don't think Jamaal Williams would be a good signing, then I don't know that you have watched him or the Lions play. Jamaal isn't just running through gaping holes by the Lions offense, he is running with power and finding slivers to get through and finding his own holes. He is getting stuffed and then bouncing it outside for the score. He is ripping off big runs in other parts of the field. He had a 4.1 YPC despite being a short yardage and redzone specialist with Swift there, and there were times where Jamaal ran more as the number 1 back over Swift. This guy is a smart, passionate, and fiery football player who can find creases that most guys wont despite being a big powerful back. Then of course he brings that power, but its an explosive power, he has very good acceleration and burst. And he is a very good receiver out of the backfield too. For those saying "But Bijan"...well you need to move on. There is not much of a chance Bijan is getting to us at 27, he might even go top 10. But ever if by some miracle Bijan slipped to us, they could still draft him. Signing Jamaal doesn't mean they can't draft Bijan if he unexpectedly falls to us. How many Redzone trips did we not score a TD on last year? How many short yardage plays did we see kill drives? And you don't want a guy who was maybe the best in the NFL in those areas last year and has been most his career? Not to mention, he is a great pairing with Cook where they can play a lot like Ingram and Kamar did in NO for so long. Edited March 12, 2023 by Alphadawg7 4 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, transplantbillsfan said: Only...? Considering the number of 1 yard TD runs and 3rd and shorts that's pretty incredible and Derrick Henry, whom several people here would apparently give up their left gonad for, averaged 4.4. 2 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Sorry, if you don't think Jamaal Williams would be a good signing, then I don't know that you have watched him or the Lions play. Jamaal isn't just running through gaping holes by the Lions offense, he is running with power and finding slivers to get through and finding his own holes. He is getting stuffed and then bouncing it outside for the score. He is ripping off big runs in other parts of the field. He had a 4.1 YPC despite being a short yardage and redzone specialist with Swift there, and there were times where Jamaal ran more as the number 1 back over Swift. This guy is a smart football player who can find creases that most guys wont despite being a big powerful back. Then of course he brings that power, but its an explosive power, he has very good acceleration and burst. And he is a very good receiver out of the backfield too. For those saying "But Bijan"...well you need to move on. There is not much of a chance Bijan is getting to us at 27, he might even go top 10. But ever if by some miracle Bijan slipped to us, they could still draft him. Signing Jamaal doesn't mean they can't draft Bijan if he unexpectedly falls to us. How many Redzone trips did we not score a TD on last year? How many short yardage plays did we see kill drives? And you don't want a guy who was maybe the best in the NFL in those areas last year and has been most his career? Not to mention, he is a great pairing with Cook where they can play a lot like Ingram and Kamar did in NO for so long. 100% agreed. Great post Alpha. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuvian Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 he's an excellent versatile RB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 https://youtu.be/o34lPhOMr7Q 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, JoPoy88 said: and Derrick Henry, whom several people here would apparently give up their left gonad for, averaged 4.4. Henry also only averaged 4.3 last year, not a huge difference. Jamaal plays a lot like Henry, a big powerful guy with great burst and acceleration. Henry has a little more top end speed, but Jamaal has more agility in tight spaces. And he will be a lot cheaper and has a lot less wear and tear. He also won't command 20-25 touches a game like Henry will. Plus, Jamaal brings a fire and energy few players in the NFL bring. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Henry also only averaged 4.3 last year, not a huge difference. Jamaal plays a lot like Henry, a big powerful guy with great burst and acceleration. Henry has a little more top end speed, but Jamaal has more agility in tight spaces. And he will be a lot cheaper and has a lot less wear and tear. He also won't command 20-25 touches a game like Henry will. Plus, Jamaal brings a fire and energy few players in the NFL bring. All true. And which one costs a lot less? 14 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: https://youtu.be/o34lPhOMr7Q awesome dude. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gunsgoodtime Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Only basing my opinion off watching some Lions games last year. He was impressive, would be great if we can sign him cheap. I like him better than Singletary 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoPoy88 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said: Only basing my opinion off watching some Lions games last year. He was impressive, would be great if we can sign him cheap. I like him better than Singletary based on pass catching ability alone, he’s a better option than singletary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 hours ago, GolfandBills said: You think Jamaal Williams will be the only player they add all off-season? Exactly this. So tiresome to see people respond to every discussion about any other position with "OL". You guys do know it's possible to do both, right? And discussing other players at other positions doesn't mean people are saying "neglect the OL". Trust me, they're going to add players on the Offensive Line. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dablitzkrieg Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 One of the best blocking RB's in the league and great in short yardage and TD's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Thoughts on what it’ll take? 3 year 16 mil? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, BillsFanForever19 said: Exactly this. So tiresome to see people respond to every discussion about any other position with "OL". You guys do know it's possible to do both, right? And discussing other players at other positions doesn't mean people are saying "neglect the OL". Trust me, they're going to add players on the Offensive Line. Exactly....Whether we land Bijan or JSN or whoever, we're loading up on OL this season. So everyone just relax. We're not ignoring OL anymore. Not even McD can allow that. 1 hour ago, Warriorspikes51 said: Thoughts on what it’ll take? 3 year 16 mil? He's going to want a minimum of 4.5/ yr after 17 tds. So is a goaline RB worth that? We'll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Governor Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Exactly....Whether we land Bijan or JSN or whoever, we're loading up on OL this season. So everyone just relax. We're not ignoring OL anymore. Not even McD can allow that. You sure about that? With Frazier being forced out I can definitely see McD using that as an excuse to draft mostly defense. Don’t believe me? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 4 hours ago, NoSaint said: Seems like a good guy. I bet hed fit in with our locker room exceptionally. I don’t know what his efficiency looked like- didn’t watch a ton of the lions but he sure found the end zone. If he could handle short yardage and pair with cook (and hynes) it could be a fun trip potentially. Efficiency? Why try to sound smart? He was good. Efficiency? Lol. Grow up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Governor said: You sure about that? With Frazier being forced out I can definitely see McD using that as an excuse to draft mostly defense. Don’t believe me? We have a hole at starting Left Guard with Rodger Saffold and a hole at 3rd OT (who often ends up starting) with David Quessenberry both being Free Agents. So at the very least, we have to add or re-sign 2. Combine that with the poor performance they had last season, they will probably do more than that. But it's physically impossible for them to ignore the Offensive Line. Edited March 12, 2023 by BillsFanForever19 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lieutenant Aldo Raine Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I want beef on the line before RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 minute ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: I want beef on the line before RB. Once again, they can and will have to do both. We have starters at RB and on the Line that are Free Agents. They will have to be signed, drafted, or re-signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 7 hours ago, ganesh said: Josh is our short yardage TD machine Not sustainable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 7 hours ago, ganesh said: Josh is our short yardage TD machine Which needs to change... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 10 minutes ago, Herb Nightly said: Which needs to change... And every team knows it too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Tuesday Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I don’t think he leaves Detroit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Get an O Line and anyone can play RB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_In_NH Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 He will want a big payday after last season. Not sure the Bills will be able to commit what he may get elsewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: He will want a big payday after last season. Not sure the Bills will be able to commit what he may get elsewhere. Could be, but there are a lot of FA RB’s this year. Running back might be the least valued non-specialist position in the league. Beane is smart to say “we are interested” to his reps and see what shakes out. The Bills are definitely adding a running back, just how many, and from where. Edited March 12, 2023 by atlbillsfan1975 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 42 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said: He will want a big payday after last season. Not sure the Bills will be able to commit what he may get elsewhere. Spotrac has his value at 2 years 8.4 million. I would rather pay him 4.2 million, and cut hines, his cap savings would be 4.6 million. But knowing how Beane operates, he won't give up Hines after trading for him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Lieutenant Aldo Raine said: I want beef on the line before RB. I don't know if you can rightfully call what Arby's serves as 'beef'. * Besides, this is a garbled report. It's DUKE Williams the Bills are interested in. 😇 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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