IndyMark Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Well, for starters Ed was the 9th overall pick, so perhaps you should at least be accurate if you are going to try to argue with someone. I get it. You are frustrated because you know you are wrong and have no sound argument or counter argument. I do appreciate your passion for the Bills so, in that regard, we have things in common. And that is a positive of this board. In closing, it is exhausting (yet somewhat amusing) to engage with posters like you as you try, so so hard, but come up short in many ways and you make way too many assumptions to try and "win" an argument or debate. At this point, you are truly arguing with yourself. My point was made, made effectively, and now I bow out to watch you prattle on. Take care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 7 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Joking aside, can anybody tell me what word he misspelled when he wrote "Ion"? Can't say but I think he's been hang'n with Leotis McKelvin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Beast said: Giddy Up on out of here!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
In Summary Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Worrying about "what if" Ed becomes great if he leaves Buffalo is a paralyzing thought. Unless he's worth 5th year option money I'd move him. 7 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Joking aside, can anybody tell me what word he misspelled when he wrote "Ion"? So, I'm thinking this, "any atom or group of atoms that bears one or more positive or negative electrical charges". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Locomark Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 His perceived price point doesn’t equal his actual in the field value. We don’t need an undersized 3 tech who wants 12 million and gets bullied at the point of attack without immediate gap penetration and gets 2 sacks a year. His type of play puts more pressure on our need to have a dominant 1 tech which we don’t have. I would rather we go steal a great high paid bully 1 tech than keep Oliver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 If we let Edmunds walk and extend Oliver I’ll be ticked. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PBF81 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Thurman#1 said: You're blaming Oliver - or desperately trying, anyway - for the fact that the Chiefs scored on the drive that he got his sack? That says far more about you than about Oliver. It says you don't like the guy and you're willing to use even illogical arguments to attack him. Oliver's been one of the Bills top five or six players this year. He's also gotten better each year. Certainly not impossible, almost nothing is, but if it happens it will leave a massive hole they can't fill right now. LOL, you crack me up. It hasn't been just Oliver, none of Beane's draftees have done anything against those teams in the playoffs nor in the playoffs in general. Since you missed it, the thread is about Oliver. His performance, or lack thereof, in the playoffs is what it is. You can spin it anyway you want it, it doesn't change a thing. Neither of our comments makes a difference either. 43 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I actually like it Oliver My problem with all of this is I’m not sure we’re gonna be able to retain him You can find defensive tackles in the say third round that end up being good players we got horrible harry in the third It would be a mistake to think that you could just take a draft pic and insert them and get the same production, though we would need to replace it all of her with a veteran that doesn’t cost as much say for instance, Sheldon Rankins He's fine if you're looking for a mid-grade DT. He's probably not worth the money he's going to get. We're missing defensive impact players in the playoffs, in a huge way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 8 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: Joking aside, can anybody tell me what word he misspelled when he wrote "Ion"? Ion=I'm a gonna 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FitzShowUsYourTitz Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 9 hours ago, babulator said: He clearly has no self awareness. Most people in buffalo aren't even sure there's a long-term home for him here, yet he thinks he's done something to earn a big contract? Guy's like this test my fandom. If we can get a 3rd, take that to the bank and call it a robbery. I get this attitude and partially agree BUT options are: signing him, cutting him or trading for a 6th or 7th rounder. STOP with the…”This guy’s overrated, trade him for a 3rd round pick” dream. It’s juvenile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CheshireCT Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, HappyDays said: My guess is his post had nothing to do with his contract at all and he only deleted it because his agent told him how it looks. Athletes have a life outside of football. This could absolutely be true. I'm sure athletes are solicited for business deals, investments, endorsements, etc all the time.... The danger of social media....whatever you post gets "interpreted." Edited March 12, 2023 by CheshireCT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunTheBall Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) This team has way too many Ed Olivers. Guys with perceived talent who show flashes but are not consistent game changers, disappear in the playoffs, then want to get paid like they are All-Pro (I have no problem with players getting paid I just don’t want us to be the ones to overpay) IDK if this is a talent evaluation problem or poor development from our assistant coaches Can anyone tell me why Washington still has a job? Seriously, I’m not a D-line guru but has he developed one guy to their potential? Edited March 12, 2023 by RunTheBall 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan2313 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 10 hours ago, TAinLA said: Can't say but I think he's been hang'n with Leotis McKelvin. I want to know who Leotis is Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babulator Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 (edited) 9 hours ago, Fred Marchibroda said: I get this attitude and partially agree BUT options are: signing him, cutting him or trading for a 6th or 7th rounder. STOP with the…”This guy’s overrated, trade him for a 3rd round pick” dream. It’s juvenile. No one is saying he is overrated, he is rated exactly where he belongs, mediocre and middle of the pack. No one mentioned cutting him or trading him for a 6th or 7th rounder either. Saying STOP isn't exactly an argument, saying STOP, name calling and then making up some scenario that no one even mentioned is barely worth a response. Try again and tell me how he's worth a big contract. I'll go first and say we can draft another middle of the pack guy that will deliver the same if not better results than Oliver. Drafting said guy would also have him on a 5 year cost controlled rookie deal. Alternatively, we could overpay for a mediocre, middle of the pack guy AND have to radically restructure some contracts to get this to work and make him happy. Your turn, Go: Edited March 12, 2023 by babulator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BobbyC81 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 19 hours ago, Bangarang said: Well Ed, “ion wanna talk” either. Is that Ebonics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 10 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: If we let Edmunds walk and extend Oliver I’ll be ticked. That tweet certainly reads like we sent his agent an offer that he didn’t like. My hope is we tried to lock him down long term cheap, off a meh year.. he didn’t go for it.. and now, hopefully, we decide to move him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaCrispy Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 10 hours ago, TheyCallMeAndy said: If we let Edmunds walk and extend Oliver I’ll be ticked. Don’t worry, we won’t… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Beane has a lot of restructuring to do in a short time. Oliver's 5th year option $10.7M , ouch https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/contracts/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 20 hours ago, SWATeam said: With that scouting report teams will just be lining up to give us a third! Well at least the Browns might! 🤞🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nihilarian Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Ion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 21 hours ago, BillsDiehard said: Interesting...definitely more likely to be traded! Please Beane do it now so the you can get something for him they all want to be paid even if they don't prove to be a play maker on a consistent basis if he was a John Randal maybe then he would deserve the money but he's not he is a average to slightly above average player so trade him & get something for him . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Oliver is at least smarter than some posters who create stupid threads and just repeatedly double down rather than deleting thread, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoudyBills Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Who is Ion? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) On 3/11/2023 at 5:19 PM, PrimeTime101 said: accept thats not real? accept the one your showing is a fake edoliver the l is replaced with a cap I and notice the thumbnail picture does not match. Ed Oliver never add that picture. Buffalo News reported it. And never posted a retraction. FYI. And Ed never refuted it, but again have to keep in mind Ed ain't no wanna talkin wit anybody 🤣🤣🤣 Edited March 13, 2023 by cba fan 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ExWNYer Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 5 hours ago, CoudyBills said: Who is Ion? 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert Paulson Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 12 hours ago, RunTheBall said: This team has way too many Ed Olivers. Guys with perceived talent who show flashes but are not consistent game changers, disappear in the playoffs, then want to get paid like they are All-Pro (I have no problem with players getting paid I just don’t want us to be the ones to overpay) IDK if this is a talent evaluation problem or poor development from our assistant coaches Can anyone tell me why Washington still has a job? Seriously, I’m not a D-line guru but has he developed one guy to their potential? Post of the week here. Milano, tre, taron, hyde, poyer, von get it done- you see it Groot will be there The rest meh / jags including maine savage who is the least instinctual lb I have seen in a long time Washington has to go as well- way too much money in that group to have them be meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HaldimandBills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 I'm fine with letting him walk. Edmunds. Oliver, etc are exactly the type of players who you end up overpaying and regret not replacing them with someone a quarter of the cost who can produce 85% of what they can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 22 hours ago, Fred Marchibroda said: I get this attitude and partially agree BUT options are: signing him, cutting him or trading for a 6th or 7th rounder. STOP with the…”This guy’s overrated, trade him for a 3rd round pick” dream. It’s juvenile. You don’t think we could get a 5 round pick? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAinLack. Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, BillsFan2313 said: I want to know who Leotis is Cornerback/Punt returner for Bills, drafted 1st round with the 11th pick in 2008. Edited March 13, 2023 by TAinLA spell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pennstate10 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 2:24 PM, 3rdand12 said: I dont care if we have a small penetrator up in the middle Quick hand work gotten the job done it seems. Skills to be sure. TWSS 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HerdMentality Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 9:07 PM, TheyCallMeAndy said: If we let Edmunds walk and extend Oliver I’ll be ticked. Isn't it ionic? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Money for what? Start earning what you're already being paid first. 4 hours ago, HaldimandBills said: I'm fine with letting him walk. Edmunds. Oliver, etc are exactly the type of players who you end up overpaying and regret not replacing them with someone a quarter of the cost who can produce 85% of what they can. Agreed, but I'd rather spend the same as what we're paying Oliver and get sometimes more disruptive. 3-Tech is nearly as important as DE IMO. Oliver is a shade above average. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmur66 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 OK. Here is the real story. I was negotiating with Ed on the purchase of his lawn tractor. It's a real nice John Deere. We were texting back and forth before we actually spoke on the phone. I was having a hard time keeping up with what he was saying because he speaks real fast. Apparently he did not appreciate my lowball tactics. Last thing I heard him say was " Ion kick your a$$ you cheap SOB" and then he hung up on me. I was shocked that he took this to social media. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 12 hours ago, cba fan said: Buffalo News reported it. And never posted a retraction. FYI. And Ed never refuted it, but again have to keep in mind Ed ain't no wanna talkin wit anybody 🤣🤣🤣 well. that was defiantly a fake oliver. Shaime on Buf News Editors for falling for it lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 1:53 PM, Marcus Aurelius said: He wanted to get a "charge" out of his Tweet Shocking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 7 hours ago, HerdMentality said: Isn't it ionic? Dontcha think? A little too ionic, And I really do think....... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, CoudyBills said: Who is Ion? Mabey ION is a MARVEL super hero/Eds alter ego,… maybe ED does Comicon stuff, Edited March 13, 2023 by Don Otreply 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Hypothetically speaking, would anybody be willing to trade Oliver, this years 1st and next years 2nd for Aaron Donald? Just thinking that he can't be happy with a rebuild in LA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 On 3/11/2023 at 3:50 PM, Thurman#1 said: You're blaming Oliver - or desperately trying, anyway - for the fact that the Chiefs scored on the drive that he got his sack? That says far more about you than about Oliver. It says you don't like the guy and you're willing to use even illogical arguments to attack him. Oliver's been one of the Bills top five or six players this year. He's also gotten better each year. Certainly not impossible, almost nothing is, but if it happens it will leave a massive hole they can't fill right now. "one of the Bills top 5 or 6 players this year" #2 offense Allen Diggs Morse Dawkins #2 Defense DaQuan Jones Edmunds Milano Poyer I think you could make an argument for top 10-12 Maybe you meant on defense? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said: Hypothetically speaking, would anybody be willing to trade Oliver, this years 1st and next years 2nd for Aaron Donald? Just thinking that he can't be happy with a rebuild in LA. Noooooo! Donald is just about done and has a massive contract. Cash payouts of $28M in 2023 (including a $15M roster bonus due on 3/16/23) and $35M in 2024. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colin Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: Dontcha think? A little too ionic, And I really do think....... Like a fumbled ball, when you got blocked out of your hole, a near saaaaaaack, but you just couldn't hoooooooold, 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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