Virgil Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 I remember hearing Eric's name in HC positions, but now I'm seeing that his contract is up and he's applying for other OC jobs. My first point of thought would be, Reid calls all the plays and runs the show, so maybe he just wants to make a name for himself elsewhere. However, is it not off that the Chiefs wouldn't try to keep him on the staff? For me, it's hard to not want someone who's been around Reid and the offensive game planning on our staff. Whoever actually called the plays in the SB was the real MVP to me. Outside of the first Kelce touchdown, Mahomes was throwing to wide open people. But yeah, anyone know why this guy is available? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ngbills Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Maybe thinks he needs to prove himself without Reid to get a HC job. 10 8 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 He seems to be stuck in the shadow of Reid/Mahomes and not given the credit he may (or may not) deserve. It makes sense that he laterals to another OC job to run an offense himself. Also, at this point, one can assume he's not a good interview. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco_92 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Reid is not going anywhere as long as Pat is around and Eric isn't getting a job as HC until he created and calls his own offense with success 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeding Bills Blue Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Airseven said: He seems to be stuck in the shadow of Reid/Mahomes and not given the credit he may (or may not) deserve. It makes sense that he laterals to another OC job to run an offense himself. Also, at this point, one can assume he's not a good interview. Some off field stuff too. 3 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 He just there for show. Andy Ried calls the plays. Pretty obvious to anyone. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 3 minutes ago, Airseven said: He seems to be stuck in the shadow of Reid/Mahomes and not given the credit he may (or may not) deserve. It makes sense that he laterals to another OC job to run an offense himself. Also, at this point, one can assume he's not a good interview. I heard him last interviewed last night...........and he insisted on bringing up a point from the past where he had called Mahomes a "competitive prick" and then elaborating on what he meant by that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 There has been lots of smoke for years about there being turmoil in KC and Bieniemy is not well liked by the players and other coaches. He has also been interviewed many times for a HC position, and the rumors are that he interviews terribly. Where there is smoke, there is fire. There is something about him that is blocking him from getting more opportunities. I don't think he will ever be a head coach. 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 'Runs with scissors'. That stays with you for the rest of your life. 🤨 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jauronimo Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Bienemy does not play well with others. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 19 minutes ago, Virgil said: I remember hearing Eric's name in HC positions, but now I'm seeing that his contract is up and he's applying for other OC jobs. My first point of thought would be, Reid calls all the plays and runs the show, so maybe he just wants to make a name for himself elsewhere. However, is it not off that the Chiefs wouldn't try to keep him on the staff? For me, it's hard to not want someone who's been around Reid and the offensive game planning on our staff. Whoever actually called the plays in the SB was the real MVP to me. Outside of the first Kelce touchdown, Mahomes was throwing to wide open people. But yeah, anyone know why this guy is available? He needs to call plays on his own before he can move up to HC. So that is why he wants to leave for a lateral move and be OC again. Reid calls all the plays, and will continue to design, run, architect, and conduct the offense. So that is why the Chiefs dont care if Bieniemy moves on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 https://www.sportscasting.com/chiefs-oc-eric-bieniemys-troubling-rap-sheet-includes-a-disturbing-assault-charge-against-a-woman/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 I think there is off-field information with EB that resembles a large, dirty iceberg that will get exposed and it'll put everyone involved in a poor light. I don't buy the "well that's Andy Reid's offense" jazz - NFL teams would take a shot on EB if legal would let them. A guy who coordinates an offense that's won 2 Super Bowls isn't exactly the intern. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, ngbills said: Maybe thinks he needs to prove himself without Reid to get a HC job. He’s got the best job. He can slide into Reid’s spot in a few years. I would stay with MaHomes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Just now, dpberr said: I think there is off-field information with EB that resembles a large, dirty iceberg that will get exposed and it'll put everyone involved in a poor light. I don't buy the "well that's Andy Reid's offense" jazz - NFL teams would take a shot on EB if legal would let them. A guy who coordinates an offense that's won 2 Super Bowls isn't exactly the intern. I see it the exact opposite. If it were just off-field stuff from decades ago, the NFL would promote him already. The NFL doesnt care about the kind of stuff Bieniemy was accused of. I think it ALL comes down to 1. Not being the play-caller, and 2. Being a bad interview. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, dpberr said: A guy who coordinates an offense that's won 2 Super Bowls isn't exactly the intern. He doesn't coordinate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Some off field stuff too. Ah, I wasn't tracking all that. So yeah, there's some combination of three clear issues with him. And it may take him elevating a guy like Kyler Murray to finally get a HC job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billieve420 Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Off the field stuff and apparently not interviewing well has probably caused some teams to decide he is not the right person to lead a team. I think the fact being in Andy Reid's shadow doesn't help as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCofNC Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 Get it done Beane? 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 37 minutes ago, Virgil said: I remember hearing Eric's name in HC positions, but now I'm seeing that his contract is up and he's applying for other OC jobs. My first point of thought would be, Reid calls all the plays and runs the show, so maybe he just wants to make a name for himself elsewhere. However, is it not off that the Chiefs wouldn't try to keep him on the staff? For me, it's hard to not want someone who's been around Reid and the offensive game planning on our staff. Whoever actually called the plays in the SB was the real MVP to me. Outside of the first Kelce touchdown, Mahomes was throwing to wide open people. But yeah, anyone know why this guy is available? That's already well-known. Mystery solved... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 11 minutes ago, Airseven said: Ah, I wasn't tracking all that. So yeah, there's some combination of three clear issues with him. And it may take him elevating a guy like Kyler Murray to finally get a HC job. Not sure I would risk my future on Kyler Murray, but I get what you are saying. IMO, Baltimore would be the ideal landing spot for Bienemy. If I'm the Ravens, I try to hire Bienemy and then tell Lamar "Ok, we are going to franchise tag you this year. Come back and play under the tag for 1 year and see what the Offense looks like with Bienemy instead of Roman. And no matter what happens we will NOT tag you again." So he Jackson either proves he can flourish under a "real" offense and deserves the fully guaranteed $270-300M contract. Or puts up a stinker of a year and Baltimore moves on. And Jackson gets to hit the FA market and still end up well paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 How many years did Mike Mcdaniels call plays in SF? How many years did Zach Taylor call plays with the rams? Doug Pederson? Matt Nagy? There are many instances in which the right hand man of a genius play caller gets a HC offer with hopes that he knows the system like the back of his hand and can replicate the same success. But not Bienemy. Odds are he’s either a really bad interviewer or a scumbag. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 33 minutes ago, NewEra said: How many years did Mike Mcdaniels call plays in SF? How many years did Zach Taylor call plays with the rams? Doug Pederson? Matt Nagy? There are many instances in which the right hand man of a genius play caller gets a HC offer with hopes that he knows the system like the back of his hand and can replicate the same success. But not Bienemy. Odds are he’s either a really bad interviewer or a scumbag. In that case, Andy Reid should hire him... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goin Breakdown Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 3 hours ago, MJS said: There has been lots of smoke for years about there being turmoil in KC and Bieniemy is not well liked by the players and other coaches. He has also been interviewed many times for a HC position, and the rumors are that he interviews terribly. Where there is smoke, there is fire. There is something about him that is blocking him from getting more opportunities. I don't think he will ever be a head coach. I've heard this too. They talked about it on WGR today In fact. I'm thinking of everyone dislikes him so much and Reid calls the plays anyway, why not just let him walk and hire literally anyone else. Why keep around a guy no one seems to like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Virgil said: I remember hearing Eric's name in HC positions, but now I'm seeing that his contract is up and he's applying for other OC jobs. My first point of thought would be, Reid calls all the plays and runs the show, so maybe he just wants to make a name for himself elsewhere. However, is it not off that the Chiefs wouldn't try to keep him on the staff? For me, it's hard to not want someone who's been around Reid and the offensive game planning on our staff. Whoever actually called the plays in the SB was the real MVP to me. Outside of the first Kelce touchdown, Mahomes was throwing to wide open people. But yeah, anyone know why this guy is available? The 2nd half of the SB reminded me of our playoff game against the Patriots. Allen was throwing to wide open people (after that first miraculous TD to Knox). I believe the Bills have the talent to execute such game plans 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PetermansRedemption Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Offer him a brinks truck and get him in here. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 3 hours ago, NewEra said: But not Bienemy. Odds are he’s either a really bad interviewer or a scumbag. Never underestimate anyone. He could be both! 😋 You’d think there has to be something there for a guy who has been overlooked for years. I’ve heard he’s a bad interview, and you’d think he’d improve over time. Not sure what other baggage there may be. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 4 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said: I've heard this too. They talked about it on WGR today In fact. I'm thinking of everyone dislikes him so much and Reid calls the plays anyway, why not just let him walk and hire literally anyone else. Why keep around a guy no one seems to like. They were hoping for the free draft picks if someone hires him. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Bienemy and Mahomes do not have a great relationship. It is that simple. A mutual move on is coming, hence Andy praising him the other day. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 12 hours ago, Goin Breakdown said: I've heard this too. They talked about it on WGR today In fact. I'm thinking of everyone dislikes him so much and Reid calls the plays anyway, why not just let him walk and hire literally anyone else. Why keep around a guy no one seems to like. If Bienemy walks, I'd imagine Matt Nagy will become their OC. Edited February 14, 2023 by The Jokeman 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 10 hours ago, BUFFALOBART said: The Bills on the other hand, have an "Assistant Head Coach", who never seems to be on the interview gravy train. Of course, we all wish Frazier the best... Err... he has been interviewed both of the previous two cycles. Okay he didn't get any looks this year but he had 3 interviews last year (and two second interviews) and 1 interview (where he made it to the final 2) in 2021. Do Bills fans just not follow what goes on in the other 31 franchises? Edited February 14, 2023 by GunnerBill 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Darragh Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 16 hours ago, Virgil said: For me, it's hard to not want someone who's been around Reid Like Sean McDermott, for instance? 11 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Err... he has been interviewed both of the previous two cycles. Okay he didn't get any looks this year but he had 3 interviews last year (and one second interview) and 1 interview (where he made it to the final 2) in 2021. Do Bills fans just not follow what goes on in the other 31 franchises? Those are Rooney Rule check the box interviews. I've maintained for a long time that Leslie and Anthony Lynn are harmed by the Rooney Rule because it turns them into tokens who get paraded before the cameras before someone else (white) gets hired. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
finn Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 16 hours ago, Virgil said: Outside of the first Kelce touchdown, Mahomes was throwing to wide open people. Quick aside: The same talking heads that claim Mahomes is the living embodiment of god almighy, GOAT in training, etc., note in the same breath that he was throwing to wide-open receivers all game (and season) long. Yet somehow he's far better than Allen, who had to dodge the Saffold- and Brown assignments every drop-back, hit Davis or Mackenzie on the chest because they can't get open, and watch as they drop it. But Mahomes has two rings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 2 minutes ago, Dan Darragh said: Like Sean McDermott, for instance? Those are Rooney Rule check the box interviews. I've maintained for a long time that Leslie and Anthony Lynn are harmed by the Rooney Rule because it turns them into tokens who get paraded before the cameras before someone else (white) gets hired. Not when he makes it to the final 2 they are not. He has made the final shortlist three times. 2018 Indianapolis the finalists were Frazier and Reich 2021 Houston the finalists were Frazier abd Culley 2022 Giants the finalists were Frazier, Daboll and Quinn Three second interviews. None of those are Rooney Rule tokens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 50 minutes ago, GunnerBill said: Not when he makes it to the final 2 they are not. He has made the final shortlist three times. 2018 Indianapolis the finalists were Frazier and Reich 2021 Houston the finalists were Frazier abd Culley 2022 Giants the finalists were Frazier, Daboll and Quinn Three second interviews. None of those are Rooney Rule tokens. I know a company that every minority candidate they interview automatically makes it to the final round. It does not matter if they intend to hire them or not. If they meet the minimum qualifications, they pass them each round until the final round interview. I'm not saying that's what happened with Frazier, I'm referencing a completely different industry....I just wouldn't be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 Let's ask "Shady" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 17 hours ago, MJS said: There has been lots of smoke for years about there being turmoil in KC and Bieniemy is not well liked by the players and other coaches. I think if this were the case Bieniemy wouldn't be on the staff still, 4 years, 3 Super Bowls and 2 Super Bowl wins later. Either he's the worst interview ever or this is racism. Edited February 14, 2023 by Chicken Boo 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 17 hours ago, Bleeding Bills Blue said: Some off field stuff too. I agree but think it is less of an impact than it for getting head coach position. A head coach is supposed to be leader of the team and hard to discipline someone for off field issues when you have done worst/ Imagine Br*dy being a head coach and punishing a player for getting caught cheating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 He’s Andy’s Reid’s puppet. He gotta switch teams and prove himself before he gets a Hc job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 (edited) 40 minutes ago, Chicken Boo said: I think if this were the case Bieniemy wouldn't be on the staff still, 4 years, 3 Super Bowls and 2 Super Bowl wins later. Either he's the worst interview ever or this is racism. Hasn't he interviewed for jobs where they hired a Black coach? What's the reason then, he was too black? Someone else's "Bojangles routine" up on the coffee table was better? I mean, this doesn't make much sense as 4-5 other black head coaches have been hired minimum during this time. Edited February 14, 2023 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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