Success Posted January 27, 2023 Author Share Posted January 27, 2023 The other teams are getting stronger - but my hope is that we still find a way to win the division, not just next year, but in a few of the years ahead. I'd like to see us do what the Pats did to the division all of those years - all 3 other teams would get impatient w/ coaches and QB's, and often be quicker to move on from both than they normally would be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJS Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, BringBackFlutie said: I know I know. I exaggerated. It's just... it feels like we don't have it together enough to beat the good teams once in the postseason. Like the whole regular season feels like piling up diluted wins. We have trouble beating Kansas City and Cincinnati in the playoffs. Those are two of the top 3 or 4 teams in the NFL. The Bills are still a good team, though. And the Bills seem to be able to beat KC in the regular season, too. We need to make changes to get over the hump, but let's not pretend like the Bills are a bad team, or even an average team. They are for sure a good team. But the talk of them being the best team in the league to start the season was not true, in hindsight. If we had a good offensive line, we'd be a lot closer. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
entropyrules Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) everyone in this division has a tough schedule facing the two best NFC divisions. I think 10-6 wins the division so if the Bills go 4-2 in the division they have a shot at that 10-6. If they split 3-3 its anyones guess as to who makes it. Worse than 3-3 and its back to the drawing board. Edited January 27, 2023 by entropyrules Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 of course they will. Saleh is a bum. A liability. NE is going nowhere. Miami's best hope is Tua. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 20 hours ago, Ethan in Cleveland said: If Jets sign Rodgers the division will be up for grabs right up until the final week. Pats are terrible. Dolphins are in QB purgatory with Tua. if the Jets sign Rodgers, they beat us twice, IMO (assuming RB Hall is back to full health). 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: if the Jets sign Rodgers, they beat us twice, IMO (assuming RB Hall is back to full health). No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 8 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: No Considering they beat us once without him, I don't think that's such a stretch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 5 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Considering they beat us once without him, I don't think that's such a stretch. Last years results won’t mean anything next season… Rodgers wont move the needle too much for them in my view Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanC883 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 22 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: No why not? we lost to them with a lesser QB. They have a STUD at WR in Wilson. Have a great D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, RyanC883 said: why not? we lost to them with a lesser QB. So? What does the result of one regular season game mean? The Chiefs lost to the freaking Colts…what will that mean next season? SFA… Im also not overly concerned about 2023 Aaron Rodgers… Let’s see what happens over the course of the off season…. But if the Jets are sweeping the Bills next year then the Bills are probably not making the playoffs so it’s really going to be hitting the fan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterpan Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 It’s too early to tell. If the dolfish or jest get a vet QB, they could be favorites. If the Bills add a stud WR and OL or two, we are clear favorites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 19 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: Last years results won’t mean anything next season… Rodgers wont move the needle too much for them in my view I don't think the Jets will sweep the Bills either. But Rodgers definitely moves the needle. He is a major upgrade from White, Flacco, and MILF man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, Gregg said: I don't think the Jets will sweep the Bills either. But Rodgers definitely moves the needle. He is a major upgrade from White, Flacco, and MILF man. He looks to me on the decline and could fall off a cliff … Brady is the exception not the rule for aging QBs… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Aussie Joe said: He looks to me on the decline and could fall off a cliff … Brady is the exception not the rule for aging QBs… He didn't really have anyone to throw to in GB last year. The Jets have a good receiving core led by Wilson. Plus, Breece Hall will be back. Although it might take him a year to get back to where he was. I believe he suffered the same injury as Barkley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NastyNateSoldiers Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 19 hours ago, HOUSE said: Bills 13-4 Patriots 10-7 Jets 8-9 Dolphins 7-10 Hope your right but I’m thinking 11-6 next season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, Gregg said: He didn't really have anyone to throw to in GB last year. The Jets have a good receiving core led by Wilson. Plus, Breece Hall will be back. Although it might take him a year to get back to where he was. I believe he suffered the same injury as Barkley. Ok… I think we have put our opinions out there… At this stage a week after their season ended … I’m more concerned about what the Bills do internally … rather than what the jets are doing… running this back isn’t going to cut it against the big boys…although they probably fall across the line again for the Division…. If they want to go further, then change is required in my view…McD recognised that the personnel in the trenches need to change so hopefully that isn’t just lip service.. Beane needs a good year so I’m predicting he takes out a new mortgage and signs at least one more big name in FA 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastport bills Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Why is there any doubt about this. I fully expect positive changes to our receiving corp and O -line. Dorsey should be better in his 2nd year and Josh will be less inclined to be the to rush the ball with other options in place. Defense will be have a productive core with Hyde, Rousseau, Oliver, Jones , Von, the LBs, White and Elam. The roster is still better than the other AFC East teams. As for beating the other great teams in the playoffs, we’ll see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 28, 2023 Share Posted January 28, 2023 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 The AFC east showed it can beat us already this year. I feel like next year we could regress & it could get alittle iffy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B-Man Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Yes. Yes they do. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Yes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GolfandBills Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Beck Water Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Surprised no one else has discussed this, and with a little more substance in the OP Oh wait 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uticaclub Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 We are a wildcard team at best next year. We’ve hit out the ceiling with this regime and the rest of the division/conference knows how to beat us. The only thing the Bills have going for them is that Josh Allen is better than everyone and will find ways to win 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 13 minutes ago, uticaclub said: We are a wildcard team at best next year. We’ve hit out the ceiling with this regime and the rest of the division/conference knows how to beat us. The only thing the Bills have going for them is that Josh Allen is better than everyone and will find ways to win That “only thing” being Josh Allen is a very nice “only thing” to have and until the rest of the east can find a QB to challenge him, he will continue to win the division year after year barring injury. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 23 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: The AFC east showed it can beat us already this year. I feel like next year we could regress & it could get alittle iffy. 15-3 against the division last 3 years. Sure next year will be their year 🤣 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coffeesforclosers Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 The Pats have an OC and McCorkle. Who knows what they'll do. The Jets have a great team but no QB. So they don't have a great team. Miami built a team with twice as much talent as Brian Flores' teams but the same number of wins. Yeah I think we're good. We still have Frazier though so the Division Round/AFCCG is our ceiling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Yes and I suspect it won't even be all that close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: The AFC east showed it can beat us already this year. I feel like next year we could regress & it could get alittle iffy. We were 3 plays and 8 total points away from being undefeated in the regular season. Everyone needs to let that sink in before posting threads about firings or are we still good/ can we still do it. Can the Bills get better? SURE. Can they get worse? SURE. But let's slow down. Edited February 1, 2023 by loyal2dagame 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teef Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 as of now i tend to think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnnycage46 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 I would say at this point, yes. Simply due to the fact that the teams in the AFC east are the same as they were at the end of the season (i.e. free agents haven't left/been added, no draft yet, etc.). So just based on that I would say if all 4 teams fielded the same teams they did at the end of this season (obviously there will be changes on every team), then yes, the Bills win the AFC east. It's too early to say as we don't know what moves will or won't occur in the next 3 months. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 5 minutes ago, teef said: as of now i tend to think so. So…..how about now??? 😋 We still have the best QB in the division, and they will work to shore things up around him. As @What a Tuel points out, 15-3 over the last few years would indicate our chances are rather good, even if we had a goofy loss or two last year. That Miami game in the oven is not something I consider seriously. You could call it 15-2. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) 43 minutes ago, Rebel101 said: The AFC east showed it can beat us already this year. I feel like next year we could regress & it could get alittle iffy. We won the division by more games than any other division leader. We will be fine. No, really. We will. Step back from the ledge. Edited February 1, 2023 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoyBatty is alive Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) Going to be a lot more difficult this year, i would give us 50/50. Jets still don't have a viable QB, Mac Jones will get better with a real OC but not by much and Tua is extremely frail. Unfortunately I think the Bills regress in 2023, too many holes not enough cap space. Edited February 1, 2023 by RoyBatty is alive Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 Let's see how FA and the draft play out for all four teams. I will say this the Dolphins are not that far off. I don't know what they will do with their QB situation given Tua's health. Also, if the Jets get Rodgers, then they can definitely challenge the Bills for the division. I actually prefer the Jets D over the Bills D. I don't see NE challenging the Bills right now, but things could look different when the season starts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebel101 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Beck Water said: Surprised no one else has discussed this, and with a little more substance in the OP Oh wait Oh my bad I didn’t go through every post. I’m pretty sure I post a topic n 5 more come behind it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreggTX Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 If the Jets had a steady QB, I'd probably pick them to win the AFCE. Miami? Can't say. They're hot and cold. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted February 1, 2023 Share Posted February 1, 2023 (edited) On 1/26/2023 at 4:10 PM, Success said: Patriots - their D was better than ours this year, and one of the top D's in the NFL. If we had that D last week, we'd be playing this coming Sunday. Now, they have an ACTUAL OC coming in, to coach a QB who will never be elite, but isn't as bad as we always say. Jets - I thought they should have made the playoffs this year. And that was with bad QB play for most of the year. They are going for a vet - Rodgers, Jimmy G., who knows. Their D is already one of the top units in the league, and they have some great young players. I think Saleh is the real deal. Dolphins - obviously, the greatest threat. If Tua was healthy all year, things might have played out very differently over the past few weeks. They are a very good team, on both sides of the ball. I think the AFC East could be historically good as a division. It will be such a fight - I'd still pick us to come out on top, but there will be a few close games that will likely decide it in the end. Thoughts? If people can’t take their unbiased hat off and take an honest look at where we are at and where our divisional opponents are then I don’t know what to tell them. Everything you wrote is spot on. I would add the Pats are a very good rushing team too. A real OC and some off-season upgrades to receiving group CBs make them a legit playoff contender. The other thing people don’t think about (outside the division) is that Cincy still has a rookie QB deal, and will have a lot of cap space this year to get even better. Bills face KC and Cincy this next season again and still have the 6 divisional games, all of which (when healthy) could prove to be legit playoff contenders and tough opponents next year with the right offseason. And along with all that, Bills have some real glaring holes to address like OL and WR while on a tight cap. And we are looking at losing some key players potentially to FA (Poyer, Edmunds, Devin) that will create more holes. Then there is Morse, he is a candidate to potentially retire between age and concussions. And finally, our two highest paid defensive players are coming off ACL injuries (Tre and Von). We will be a double digit win team still, but the divisional title is far from a sure thing IMHO. We need to find the right pieces in FA and land some good finds in the draft to increase the odds we remain the big dogs of the AFCE. Edited February 1, 2023 by Alphadawg7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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