Gregg Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Connor Hughes on Twitter: "The #Jets should do whatever it takes to get Aaron Rodgers. Why? Forget the playoffs. This team is a Super Bowl contender with 12 under center. https://t.co/tRDz5ApjTM" / Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Your Brown Eye Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I think so. It's really dependent on who is QB'ing the Jets and Dolphins. If they whiff on QB's and do not land one of the big names, our road to another division title will be much easier. Will be a tough task if one or both get big-time QB's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProcessTruster Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Probably. The offense will only be better in Dorsey's second year as OC. Hines/Cook will take over for Singletary, which is an upgrade. Shakir will take McKenzies spot plus Beane will draft a speedy WR, both upgrades. Spencer Brown will get the full offseason and camp he missed in 2022, won't be rehabbing from back surgery and be better. A lot depends on Von Miller's recovery speed, but assuming he and Micah Hyde will be full go, the D will be much better than what we saw for most of 2022, including the post season tournament. Elam and Benford will be ready to go full time. Edmunds will stay, Poyers nutty wife will make him go for the $$, so he's gone. The AFC East will be competitive, but I see the Bills being no less competitive for that title than they were this year. Why wouldn't they be? Beane has laid the foundation, will add to it. So just go play the games. This is a playoff team for years to come. Plus I'm not sure trying to catch rock hard footballs , slogging through snowy fields in playoff games in Orchard Park in f ing January are any advantage to this team at all the way it is constructed, so just get in the tournament and go from there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 If Tua stays healthy next season and the Jets get either Rodgers or Lamar, it could be kinda difficult Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Paul Andrew Esden Jr on Twitter: "MAJOR LINE SHIFT: #Jets odds to land Aaron Rodgers shifted from +750 to +350. Meanwhile, their odds of landing Derek Carr dropped from +250 to +350. Meaning Carr & Rodgers are now co-favorites to become #TakeFlight Week 1 starter, per @oddschecker. #GoPackGo #RaiderNation https://t.co/hmck6qXr9f" / Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 47 minutes ago, Gregg said: Connor Hughes on Twitter: "The #Jets should do whatever it takes to get Aaron Rodgers. Why? Forget the playoffs. This team is a Super Bowl contender with 12 under center. https://t.co/tRDz5ApjTM" / Twitter Lol 17 minutes ago, Buffalo03 said: If Tua stays healthy next season and the Jets get either Rodgers or Lamar, it could be kinda difficult You expect to the quarterback that had three concussions in one season to stay healthy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Lol You expect to the quarterback that had three concussions in one season to stay healthy I didn't say he would. I said "if" far from an expectation in case you haven't noticed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 33 minutes ago, ProcessTruster said: Probably. The offense will only be better in Dorsey's second year as OC. Hines/Cook will take over for Singletary, which is an upgrade. Shakir will take McKenzies spot plus Beane will draft a speedy WR, both upgrades. Spencer Brown will get the full offseason and camp he missed in 2022, won't be rehabbing from back surgery and be better. A lot depends on Von Miller's recovery speed, but assuming he and Micah Hyde will be full go, the D will be much better than what we saw for most of 2022, including the post season tournament. Elam and Benford will be ready to go full time. Edmunds will stay, Poyers nutty wife will make him go for the $$, so he's gone. The AFC East will be competitive, but I see the Bills being no less competitive for that title than they were this year. Why wouldn't they be? Beane has laid the foundation, will add to it. So just go play the games. This is a playoff team for years to come. Plus I'm not sure trying to catch rock hard footballs , slogging through snowy fields in playoff games in Orchard Park in f ing January are any advantage to this team at all the way it is constructed, so just get in the tournament and go from there. I want to see the bills more like the ravens, except with Josh Allen under center Just now, Buffalo03 said: I didn't say he would. I said "if" far from an expectation in case you haven't noticed But you mentioned it, which means you at least think that it might happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramza86 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I honestly think its going to be really close where we stand right now. If we do not get massive upgrades on the offensive side(Offensive line/Play calling) we are going to be struggling more than we did this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: I want to see the bills more like the ravens, except with Josh Allen under center But you mentioned it, which means you at least think that it might happen It's a possibility. Not an expectation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, Buffalo03 said: It's a possibility. Not an expectation Got it Myself, I think the Dolphins need to start line it up another quarterback, three concussions in one season for a quarterback is not good. He’s going to take a pounding next year and they’re just gonna be waiting for the ball to drop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Someone posted online (probably Pats fan) Bills dynasty 2020-2022: -3 AFC East Championships -1 AFC Championship game loss -Barely beat Skylar Thompson in the Wild Card. Can't say that they are wrong. Depending on which players we are able to keep and which QB's the other teams are rumored to pick up, I wouldn't be surprised if we won 10 games and were 3rd place in the division and playing for our playoff lives in week 18. We had a window when the rest of the division was garbage and our QB was on a rookie deal and we blew it. Simple as that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo03 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1 minute ago, John from Riverside said: Got it Myself, I think the Dolphins need to start line it up another quarterback, three concussions in one season for a quarterback is not good. He’s going to take a pounding next year and they’re just gonna be waiting for the ball to drop Entirely possible. We truly don't know what's going to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said: Someone posted online (probably Pats fan) Bills dynasty 2020-2022: -3 AFC East Championships -1 AFC Championship game loss -Barely beat Skylar Thompson in the Wild Card. Can't say that they are wrong. Depending on which players we are able to keep and which QB's the other teams are rumored to pick up, I wouldn't be surprised if we won 10 games and were 3rd place in the division and playing for our playoff lives in week 18. We had a window when the rest of the division was garbage and our QB was on a rookie deal and we blew it. Simple as that. It will be tougher, but the window is still open. I think what you have with Allen, Mahomes, Burrow is similar to the days of Manning, Brady, Ben or Kelly, Marino, Elway. Bills will be in the mix, but the AFC is loaded with good QB's. You can factor in Herbert and Lawrence as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustHewIt Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 The dolphins lost like five straight when they started playing good teams. They're not the near-powerhouse everyone thinks they are and everyone will continue to adjust to what their coach likes to do. It's hard to score points and win consistently with no explosive plays and no running game. The Pats are so far away on offense. You just can't win 11-12 games scoring 20ppg or less. The Jets with a good vet QB, that defense, and the easier last place schedule will be frisky Not sure why everyone thinks we're going to be so much worse without massive upgrades. There was one team that handled us this year and they may win the super bowl. Believe it or not, top five QBs usually win a lot of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
26TrapDraw Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 14 hours ago, SoCal Deek said: My expectations are pre-lowered. I honestly don’t see this organization fixing much of anything this offseason. Well if they don’t. We will be second or third in the division even with Josh. This team is broken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Until the Jets, Dolphins or Patriots can find a way to beat us once each or one twice think the division will remain ours. Honestly both the Jet and Dolphin wins last year came down to 1 play or drive so while it may raise some attention am not overly worried about either team until I see consistency which none of them have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 My expectation is that the Bills will be slightly worse next season than they were this season. Both the fish and the Jests are already competitive. Both teams might become ultra competitive with the addition of a good QB (Brady / Rodgers). At the end of the 2021-2022 season, it was clear that the Bills were the favorites to win the East in 2022. At the end of the 2022-2023 season, I think the Bills are still the favorites, but that the rest of the off-season is going to muddy that picture. The Bills are likely to go into the 2023-2024 season as a very questionable favorite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Just now, schoolhouserock said: My expectation is that the Bills will be slightly worse next season than they were this season. Both the fish and the Jests are already competitive. Both teams might become ultra competitive with the addition of a good QB (Brady / Rodgers). At the end of the 2021-2022 season, it was clear that the Bills were the favorites to win the East in 2022. At the end of the 2022-2023 season, I think the Bills are still the favorites, but that the rest of the off-season is going to muddy that picture. The Bills are likely to go into the 2023-2024 season as a very questionable favorite. I would like to see a team that’s more balanced not trying to figure out the running game as the playoffs get close but actually start working on it at the start of the season hundred yard rushers that are not Josh Allen Score in the red zone with the running game, cut down on turnovers Suffocate teams instead of trying to outscore them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMM Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Yes we will win it, but it will be tight. And for God's sake can we stop with the "If Tua was healthy" takes? Worse than fin heaven. When he WAS healthy they lost 4 straight games, including against us late in the year. And he is not going to remain healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
schoolhouserock Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 6 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: I would like to see a team that’s more balanced not trying to figure out the running game as the playoffs get close but actually start working on it at the start of the season hundred yard rushers that are not Josh Allen Score in the red zone with the running game, cut down on turnovers Suffocate teams instead of trying to outscore them First, I 100% agree. However, my mind goes back to things we heard frequently when players like P Manning and A Rodgers were in their prime. We always heard about how they “wanted” to add the running game as a larger component to their offense. I’m not sure that ever materialized for any of them - at least not in the way that fans interpreted those statements. We have heard McD comment on having the “threat” of a running game. There were a few games this season where we saw this. The Bills will still drop back and throw as many times as anyone else in the league. When they run - however seldom - they hit it for 7, 8, 10+ yards. The Bills actually had decent rushing performances this season (thank you Josh Allen). I guess what I am trying to say is that, while I would love a dedicated rushing attack, I am not going to hold my breath. I think the shortest path is to improve the Bills’ interior O-line. At the end of the season, teams were able to take away a massive chunk of the Bills’ run game by simply speed rushing the edges and then shedding interior blocks as Allen tried to escape. Lots and lots of yards and first downs were left on the field - especially during the Bengals game. There were several times when the Bengals LBs and DBs immediately dropped, Allen started to run (good decision), but the DT was easily able to shed his block and get contact on Josh (bad execution). Those runs would have been back breakers for the Bengals’ approach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 well at least it's not too soon to answer this question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I was going to say no, but, let's be real, that's just recency bias talking. Bills still have good depth and a top 5 quarterback. If they find a way to improve the oline and the defense can stay relatively healthy, they still look like the clear favorite to me. It won't be as easy as it has been, but I'm taking the Bills as a betting man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 It's possible that we have Aaron Rodgers AND Tom Brady in the division next year, which would be pretty epic. I still think we can win but it's going to be a battle. Maybe that's a good thing. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 1. Buffalo - Allen, Diggs, Miller, Milano 2. QB White, very good defense, promising young receivers and a running game 3. Miami - Hill, Waddle, an occasionally concussed Tua, and Brady as both QB and small % owner 4. New England - Only our Defense makes McCorkle look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 No Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warriorspikes51 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I would expect 2 of Brady, Rodgers, Jackson, Carr to enter our division Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thurman#1 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 16 hours ago, Success said: Patriots - their D was better than ours this year, and one of the top D's in the NFL. If we had that D last week, we'd be playing this coming Sunday. Now, they have an ACTUAL OC coming in, to coach a QB who will never be elite, but isn't as bad as we always say. Jets - I thought they should have made the playoffs this year. And that was with bad QB play for most of the year. They are going for a vet - Rodgers, Jimmy G., who knows. Their D is already one of the top units in the league, and they have some great young players. I think Saleh is the real deal. Dolphins - obviously, the greatest threat. If Tua was healthy all year, things might have played out very differently over the past few weeks. They are a very good team, on both sides of the ball. I think the AFC East could be historically good as a division. It will be such a fight - I'd still pick us to come out on top, but there will be a few close games that will likely decide it in the end. Thoughts? The Pats D isn't any better than ours. Ever so slightly ahead of ours in DVOA, 3rd vs. 4th, and they were pretty healthy compared to our huge amounts of defensive injuries. The Pats were 11thin points allowed and we were 2nd. Pats were 9th in yards allowed and we were 1st. I'm less worried about the Pats and Fins than I am the Jets. It'll depend on the QB but I think they could be good. Like you, I like Saleh a lot. IMO we stand a really good chance to win it next year, but a lot of the reason for that is that it doesn't look good as a division except for us, I think. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 It's WAY TOO EARLY to have an intelligent conversation about this. We don't even know who the QB of the Jets and Dolphins will be at this time. We also are going to go through a lot of transition this year ourselves, and we don't know what that looks like yet. My GUT says it will be even tougher next year, and I actually do think it is possible that we do not win the division...if, for example, Rodgers goes to the Jets and Brady plays in Miami....both of which are being discussed/anticipated by some. I am already predicting a Bills regression next season, though that doesn't have to mean we don't win the division. I think we'll still be very good, but lose a few more games and bow out of the playoffs earlier, or at the same spot....which is a regression when you consider we are supposed to be on an upward trajectory. You can argue the last 2 seasons in a row, now, have been regressions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 17 hours ago, Scott7975 said: I dunno. The Jets and Miami are certainly catching up. Im still not scared of the Pats at this point. Let me see who the Jest and Phins are lining up at QB before I answer the OP. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 I think the Bills will but the gap between us and the other teams is getting smaller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjd1001 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 its is so tough right now to make that prediction without seeing the offseason moves. If you give me the Bills vs the field. I'll take the field (other three teams). I still think the Bills are favored, but Miami and the Jets (with a new QB) will be really tough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 18 hours ago, Success said: Patriots - their D was better than ours this year, and one of the top D's in the NFL. If we had that D last week, we'd be playing this coming Sunday. Now, they have an ACTUAL OC coming in, to coach a QB who will never be elite, but isn't as bad as we always say. Jets - I thought they should have made the playoffs this year. And that was with bad QB play for most of the year. They are going for a vet - Rodgers, Jimmy G., who knows. Their D is already one of the top units in the league, and they have some great young players. I think Saleh is the real deal. Dolphins - obviously, the greatest threat. If Tua was healthy all year, things might have played out very differently over the past few weeks. They are a very good team, on both sides of the ball. I think the AFC East could be historically good as a division. It will be such a fight - I'd still pick us to come out on top, but there will be a few close games that will likely decide it in the end. Thoughts? Home: Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Broncos, Raiders, Cowboys, Giants, Buccaneers, Jaguars Away: Chiefs, Chargers, Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Eagles, Bengals, Commanders With this schedule and the possibilities of Division opponents upgrading at the QB position with proven QB's, I don't see it being an easy path. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
May Day 10 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) Im thinking No. I do think they will be a 10-11 win WC team. This (hopefully) will be their '1989' team who transitions into a solid and sustainable run. *Im not overly negative. I just think there are too many weak spots to effectively fix in an offseason and they will lose a step to hopefully gain one. Edited January 27, 2023 by May Day 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gregg Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 11 minutes ago, Billz4ever said: Home: Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Broncos, Raiders, Cowboys, Giants, Buccaneers, Jaguars Away: Chiefs, Chargers, Dolphins, Patriots, Jets, Eagles, Bengals, Commanders With this schedule and the possibilities of Division opponents upgrading at the QB position with proven QB's, I don't see it being an easy path. That road schedule is brutal. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billz4ever Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, Gregg said: That road schedule is brutal. You ain't lying. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 (edited) It is far too early to tell but base on the QB situation of the other three teams I will say the Bills are likely to be favored to win the division again Edited January 27, 2023 by billsfan89 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringBackFlutie Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 13 hours ago, MJS said: Yes. Most definitely. But we are past that as a franchise. We need an AFC championship game win. That's the next hurdle. That's the only win that will mean something significant going forward. We have won about half of our playoff games under this regime. That's not what this team has lacked. Getting to the superbowl is the only legitimate goal now. This is just a ridiculously idiotic take. Just because the Bills didn't beat a top 3 NFL team in the playoffs doesn't mean they are now a below .500 team. I know I know. I exaggerated. It's just... it feels like we don't have it together enough to beat the good teams once in the postseason. Like the whole regular season feels like piling up diluted wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Jokeman Posted January 27, 2023 Share Posted January 27, 2023 2 hours ago, Warriorspikes51 said: I would expect 2 of Brady, Rodgers, Jackson, Carr to enter our division Jimmy G seems more likely since he has 49er ties in Saleh and McDaniel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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