JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Since the passing of Ralph Wilson in 2014, they've only honored the 2 individuals who were left off it by him: 2015 Lou Saban 2017 Cookie Gilchrist Are we done with the "Super Bowl" era? Cornelius Bennett? James Lofton? Ruben Brown? Eric Moulds? Is any player from the drought era worthy? Kyle Williams? Fred Jackson? Brian Moorman? Aaron Schobel? Eric Wood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I think Kyle and Fred deserve consideration. 4 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Kyle will represent the drought years and probably go up sometime in the next 2 years. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Kyle definitely deserves a spot imo. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4merper4mer Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Butch Byrd 5 5 2 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKBILLS Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 13 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: Since the passing of Ralph Wilson in 2014, they've only honored the 2 individuals who were left off it by him: 2015 Lou Saban 2017 Cookie Gilchrist Are we done with the "Super Bowl" era? Cornelius Bennett? James Lofton? Ruben Brown? Eric Moulds? Is any player from the drought era worthy? Kyle Williams? Fred Jackson? Brian Moorman? Aaron Schobel? Eric Wood? I think Kyle and Freddie are shoe-ins...Biscuit, Reuben, and Moulds should be. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I wonder if they are even going to bother putting someone up on the current Wall at Highmark since we are "moving" to a new stadium 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JÂy RÛßeÒ Posted January 12, 2023 Author Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Butch Byrd 100% true 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 19 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: Since the passing of Ralph Wilson in 2014, they've only honored the 2 individuals who were left off it by him: 2015 Lou Saban 2017 Cookie Gilchrist Are we done with the "Super Bowl" era? Cornelius Bennett? James Lofton? Ruben Brown? Eric Moulds? Is any player from the drought era worthy? Kyle Williams? Fred Jackson? Brian Moorman? Aaron Schobel? Eric Wood? I have been beating the Schobel drum for years and will continue to. Nine seasons with the Bills ... the only team he played for. In eight of those seasons, he played all 16 games. Second most sacks in Bills history (78). I think he has earned his spot. 8 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) You can make a case for all of the following. Schobel, Brown, Moulds, Jackson, and Williams You can make a case that none of them were superstar players and to avoid watering down the Wall of Fame that none of them should go up. That said there are guys like Ferguson, Conlan, Hansen, and Smerlas that don't belong with some of the true greats of the game. They won't take those names down when they move to the new stadium but it doesn't mean they have to have a low bar to make the Wall. Im not saying only HOF guys should be on the wall either. I've been saying for years that Schobel should be next after Cookie made it. Edited January 12, 2023 by Ethan in Cleveland 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 54 minutes ago, JÂy RÛßeÒ said: Since the passing of Ralph Wilson in 2014, they've only honored the 2 individuals who were left off it by him: 2015 Lou Saban 2017 Cookie Gilchrist Are we done with the "Super Bowl" era? Cornelius Bennett? James Lofton? Ruben Brown? Eric Moulds? Is any player from the drought era worthy? Kyle Williams? Fred Jackson? Brian Moorman? Aaron Schobel? Eric Wood? They won't touch Bennett with a 39 foot pole. Lofton was his best for Green Bay and didn't have the longevity as a Bill. Ruben Brown maybe, Moulds idk, I've heard some stories. Williams is a yes. I'd like Jackson also but idk if he has the numbers or longevity or even a season of legitimate greatness as much as I live him. Moorman maybe, Schobel maybe, Wood probably not. How about Stevie Johnson? He had accomplishments no other Bills Wr had to that point. We can put Diggs and Allen up there now. Edited January 12, 2023 by That's No Moon 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 43 minutes ago, 4merper4mer said: Butch Byrd /thread. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Linen Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 53 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: I think Kyle and Fred deserve consideration. Exactly, if you mean Kyle Orton. 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 55 minutes ago, BruceVilanch said: I think Kyle and Fred deserve consideration. Yup.....Kyle, Fred and Eric Moulds are my 3 favorite players of the drought era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I don't see anything happening till the new stadium is built. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HardyBoy Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, LABILLBACKER said: Yup.....Kyle, Fred and Eric Moulds are my 3 favorite players of the drought era. Mounds isn’t drought era though is he? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Kyle Williams is the most deserving to be on the Wall. You could make a case for Eric Wood as well. I agree with @Gugnyon Aaron Schobel. He deserves more recognition. I feel like he's become a forgotten player. I love Fred Jackson's story and he was a damn good player. I just don't see him being on the Wall. Ruben Brown is deserving. James Lofton was a big help for us during the Super Bowl years, but he wasn't here long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 I would only put Eric Moulds, Ruben Brown and possibly Kyle Williams. Moulds and brown were dominant and recognized nationally for their skill. Brown could be a future HOF’er so he should be up there. I love Freddie but you can’t have everybody up there. He is a legend so that gives him more cache but he was never one of the best in the league. Just my opinion. 1 minute ago, Mark Vader said: Kyle Williams is the most deserving to be on the Wall. You could make a case for Eric Wood as well. I agree with @Gugnyon Aaron Schobel. He deserves more recognition. I feel like he's become a forgotten player. I love Fred Jackson's story and he was a damn good player. I just don't see him being on the Wall. Ruben Brown is deserving. James Lofton was a big help for us during the Super Bowl years, but he wasn't here long enough. Schobel was above average but played a long time so he got good stats. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan89 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Kyle Williams for sure 100% should be in the wall. Ruben Brown, Moulds and Bennett should all be there too from before the drought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 The 13th Man: A Snowman? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ned Flanders Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 27 minutes ago, That's No Moon said: I'd like Jackson also but idk if he has the numbers I could be wrong, but I believe Fred's the third leading rusher in Bills history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: Kyle Williams is the most deserving to be on the Wall. You could make a case for Eric Wood as well. I agree with @Gugnyon Aaron Schobel. He deserves more recognition. I feel like he's become a forgotten player. I love Fred Jackson's story and he was a damn good player. I just don't see him being on the Wall. Ruben Brown is deserving. James Lofton was a big help for us during the Super Bowl years, but he wasn't here long enough. Schobel played quietly and left quietly. All business with that dude. Admirable, if you ask me. I think two players who are universally loved by Bills fans are Fred and Fitz. Neither really deserves a spot on the Wall, but I think anyone would be hard-pressed to think of any other player(s) as loved as those two. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 2 minutes ago, Gugny said: Schobel played quietly and left quietly. All business with that dude. Admirable, if you ask me. I think two players who are universally loved by Bills fans are Fred and Fitz. Neither really deserves a spot on the Wall, but I think anyone would be hard-pressed to think of any other player(s) as loved as those two. No question about those two, but I would add that Kyle WIlliams was beloved as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mark Vader said: No question about those two, but I would add that Kyle WIlliams was beloved as well. Yep, agreed. And I do think Kyle has a case to be on the Wall, for sure. Every bit as much as Schoebel, if not more. I think Schoebel was skipped over because he wasn't a "face" of the team. They are both deserving. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roundybout Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 31 minutes ago, Ned Flanders said: I could be wrong, but I believe Fred's the third leading rusher in Bills history. He's third in team history in rushing yards with 5,646, behind Thurman (11,938) and OJ (10,183) and fifth in rushing touchdowns with 30, behind Cookie (31), Josh (38), OJ (57) and Thurman (65). Given how people loved him and how much he loved the team, I think he's a good candidate for the wall. 2 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Personally I would waive the retirement rule and put Allen and Diggs up now. More deserving that many of the names being discussed in this thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlfaBill Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 To truly have a wall of fame only exceptional players should be considered. I liked and respect a lot of the former guys but most that have been mentioned here should not be considered. Here in Edmonton(NHL) we retire jerseys of HoF players only. That may be a bit harsh so perhaps adding fringe HoF guys(ie Tasker) as well as HoFers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJB Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Vontae Davis for sure 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MphsBillsfan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 How about the Billdo. He did make a brief but erect appearance. 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 4 orders of business for the WoF committee… 1 - Add Butch Byrd 2 - Add Aaron Schobel 3 - Add Eric Moulds 4 - Remove OJ Edited January 12, 2023 by LabattBlue 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
co_springs_billsfan Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 43 minutes ago, Roundybout said: He's third in team history in rushing yards with 5,646, behind Thurman (11,938) and OJ (10,183) and fifth in rushing touchdowns with 30, behind Cookie (31), Josh (38), OJ (57) and Thurman (65). Given how people loved him and how much he loved the team, I think he's a good candidate for the wall. Interestingly the 10th and 11th in all-time rushing yards for the Bills are both on the team. Devin Singletary and Josh Allen. Not sure if Singletary will be back next season (I have serious doubts with the $ invested in the position with Hines already), but Josh should easily move into 7th next season, perhaps even 5th (a little less than 800 yards away). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That's No Moon Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Ned Flanders said: I could be wrong, but I believe Fred's the third leading rusher in Bills history. He is. His career yards per game was 53.3, Devin Singletary's is 51.7. Singletary is the team's 10th leading rusher all time. For comparison, Travis Henry, the #5 rusher in team history averaged over 71 yards a game and only had 3 fewer rushing TDs than Fred in 52 fewer games. 2011 was his best season IMO. Played in 10 games due to injury. 934 yards, 6 rushing TDs, 5.5 average, 39 catches, 442 yards, 11.3 average, 0 receiving TDs He did have 1 1,000 yard season. 2009, he ran for 1062 yards and 2 TDs I love Fred Jackson, I think we all love Fred Jackson, but we love the man and the story as much as has is production. Does that put him on the wall? Edited January 12, 2023 by That's No Moon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 (edited) 4 hours ago, LabattBlue said: 4 orders of business for the WoF committee… 1 - Add Butch Byrd 2 - Add Aaron Schobel 3 - Add Eric Moulds 4 - Remove OJ I won't be surprised if that's one name that "mistakenly" gets left off whatever the new "Wall Of Fame" is when the new stadium gets built. Edited January 13, 2023 by Just Jack 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikemac2001 Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, LabattBlue said: 4 orders of business for the WoF committee… 1 - Add Butch Byrd 2 - Add Aaron Schobel 3 - Add Eric Moulds 4 - Remove OJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted January 12, 2023 Share Posted January 12, 2023 Moulds over Lofton---the latter was a Packer first and foremost--by far his best years were there. Mediocre stats in Buffalo. Kyle should go up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 None of the guys from the drought era belong. The only two guys that arguably deserve consideration , imo, are Eric Moulds and Ruben Brown. Moulds at his best was elite and truly one of the best WRs in the league. As much as I love guys like Fred Jackson and Kyle Williams, they were never all-pro types and only have a single playoff appearance between them. Not WOF worthy. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToGoGo Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 What's wrong with you people? Have you forgotten how important Fred Jackson was? He should've been up there yesterday. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 (edited) Fred Jackson??? Good lord, dude has 5k career rushing yards and 1k only once. His best session in his career was 1000 yards 2 TD. You guys aren't serious, are you? That's embarrassing. Players can be known fan favorites without being on the wall Edited January 13, 2023 by ArtVandalay 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostbitmic Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 They're going to need a lot of space for the likes of Allen, Diggs, Poyer, Hyde, Milano, Edmunds, Rousseau and White, after a few Lombardi's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted January 13, 2023 Share Posted January 13, 2023 Eric Moulds is THE BEST BILL I have seen play not to be on that wall, period. He should be duly honored as he will never don a gold jacket for the NFL HOF because of the chronic inability of the organization to get a quarterback worth a damn. I'm all aboard the Moulds train at this point. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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