Hyde and Crowder practicing! 21-Day practice windows opened *UPDATE* Hyde out WC and Divisional

[Simon]

2 hours ago, Chaos said:

Does anyone have a picture of the actual bat signal on the Bills used to let Micah know we are in desperate need.  

 

[AuntieEm]

8 hours ago, Success said:

I can't believe how many good receivers we have all of a sudden.

 

And Hyde - if somehow he gets back at ANY point in the playoffs, our title chances increase significantly.

 

 

   Depends as well how well he can get back into playing shape.  If he does play you can bet the other team will test him to see if they can exploit his being rusty.

 

 

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

56 minutes ago, balln said:

He had key first down catches / on 3rd down against rams and in another game

Thank you! I just recall seeing him pop off the screen in watching the games and really making a difference. 

[HappyDays]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I recall Crowder really running good routes and making some key catches (in addition to being really solid as a PR).  But maybe I am dreaming, because I would have assumed that his production was more than 6/60 yards.  😁

 

He had limited total production but it feels like every catch he made was a big 3rd down conversion. This offense has missed 2020 Cole Beasley, so much so that we signed 2022 Cole Beasley just to get some of that skill set back. Crowder was filling that role before breaking his ankle. Not a game changer but a drive changer.

[Ed_Formerly_of_Roch]

1 hour ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

I recall Crowder really running good routes and making some key catches (in addition to being really solid as a PR).  But maybe I am dreaming, because I would have assumed that his production was more than 6/60 yards.  😁

 

Yeah I would have thought he'd have had more than that to.  Someone just posted his snap counts, so the one game he played quite a bit was the Miami game.  Was one of there other WR's out that game, maybe that was why snap count jumped up??  Davis maybe??   Do agree, he did do a decent job on PR.

 

According to lineups.com Crowder played 18 snaps(31%], 19(28%, 45(49%}, and 11(17%}

[Simon]

3 minutes ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said:

Was one of there other WR's out that game, maybe that was why snap count jumped up??  Davis maybe??

 

11 different guys caught passes that day (Gabe ahd a few) so it looks like all hands were on deck.

I'm guessing guys were dropping like flies in the 2nd half and he was relatively fresh and got extra snaps.

[TBBills Fan]

9 hours ago, Don Otreply said:

Did a man just say “ don’t tell me how to feel”  wtf dude, 😂

 

 

Real men have feelings! We are strong and independent! 

 

 

 

[Bufflow4]

 

[John from Riverside]

2 hours ago, HappyDays said:

 

He had limited total production but it feels like every catch he made was a big 3rd down conversion. This offense has missed 2020 Cole Beasley, so much so that we signed 2022 Cole Beasley just to get some of that skill set back. Crowder was filling that role before breaking his ankle. Not a game changer but a drive changer.

This guy was the Jets offense

I still believe that if he could stay healthy, he would’ve become a good player for us over the course of the season

[Doc]

4 hours ago, Einstein said:

I agree.

 

 

He'll be back for the 2nd round of the playoffs.  Book it.

[Warcodered]

 

[Big Blitz]

I want the Bengals to have ZERO clue he’s playing.  
 

Keep it all as is fellas.  Vague.  “It’s up to the doctors.  We’ll see.”  
 

 

First things first of course.  One game at a time.  

[papazoid]

8 hours ago, Bigvinny said:

 

 

dr's originally said it would take 6-9 months  to recover. he had his surgery in early october.

 

the super bowl would be 4 months.

 

in his presser he said initially he was in a very dark place, now he's in a great spot after working extremely hard at rehab and attending all the bills meetings. said he and the doctor, at his most recent visit, were laughing at each other, because each knew what the other wanted. micah's definition of healed could mean pain free movement.

 

his reward, permission to participate in NON-contact practice to keep his spirits up.

 

my fear is the doctor is allowing a bit of false hope and has no intention of releasing him for game contact tackling  head/neck  trauma before being fully healed for the 6-9 months.  allowing him to get a jump on being ready for next season. this is a neck/spinal cord injury that probably shouldn't be rushed back. 

 

i'll be shocked if he plays this playoffs.....heck knows we sure could use him

 

 

 

[ExiledInIllinois]

12 minutes ago, papazoid said:

 

dr's originally said it would take 6-9 months  to recover. he had his surgery in early october.

 

the super bowl would be 4 months.

 

in his presser he said initially he was in a very dark place, now he's in a great spot after working extremely hard at rehab and attending all the bills meetings. said he and the doctor, at his most recent visit, were laughing at each other, because each knew what the other wanted. micah's definition of healed could mean pain free movement.

 

his reward, permission to participate in NON-contact practice to keep his spirits up.

 

my fear is the doctor is allowing a bit of false hope and has no intention of releasing him for game contact tackling  head/neck  trauma before being fully healed for the 6-9 months.  allowing him to get a jump on being ready for next season. this is a neck/spinal cord injury that probably shouldn't be rushed back. 

 

i'll be shocked if he plays this playoffs.....heck knows we sure could use him

 

 

 

He's off IR. That means the 21 day window is ticking. What happens if they don't activate him.  Does he then have to stay on IR for all of next season? Or just that 21 day clock runs out during this year's playoffs?

[John from Riverside]

6 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

He's off IR. That means the 21 day window is ticking. What happens if they don't activate him.  Does he then have to stay on IR for all of next season? Or just that 21 day clock runs out during this year's playoffs?

I believe that is correct

[Sierra Foothills]

12 hours ago, Bigvinny said:

Hyde has been working with trainers off to the side for weeks.

 

Also kudos to Hyde's personal physician, Dr. Jekyll.

[K-9]

13 minutes ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

He's off IR. That means the 21 day window is ticking. What happens if they don't activate him.  Does he then have to stay on IR for all of next season? Or just that 21 day clock runs out during this year's playoffs?

None of the injury statuses carry over from season to season. If they advance to the SB but don’t activate Hyde by Feb. 1st, he goes back on IR for the remaining 11 days of the season thru the SB on Feb. 12th. 

[Doc Brown]

12 hours ago, Billz4ever said:

Being medically cleared to return to practice and actually being in game shape and ready to play in a game are two very different things.  Look at how many weeks Tre was practicing before actually returning.

Tre was coming off a torn ACL.  Different injuries.  Different rehab processes/timelines (both mentally and physically).  We'll see if Hyde returns but I wouldn't compare the two injuries unless you're a medical expert.

Edited January 12, 2023 by Doc Brown

[Buffalo716]

2 hours ago, papazoid said:

 

dr's originally said it would take 6-9 months  to recover. he had his surgery in early october.

 

the super bowl would be 4 months.

 

in his presser he said initially he was in a very dark place, now he's in a great spot after working extremely hard at rehab and attending all the bills meetings. said he and the doctor, at his most recent visit, were laughing at each other, because each knew what the other wanted. micah's definition of healed could mean pain free movement.

 

his reward, permission to participate in NON-contact practice to keep his spirits up.

 

my fear is the doctor is allowing a bit of false hope and has no intention of releasing him for game contact tackling  head/neck  trauma before being fully healed for the 6-9 months.  allowing him to get a jump on being ready for next season. this is a neck/spinal cord injury that probably shouldn't be rushed back. 

 

i'll be shocked if he plays this playoffs.....heck knows we sure could use him

 

 

 

There is ZERO reason to start him on the 21 day journey to IR unless he was very close 

 

this is the NFL… NOT FOR LONG … Don’t ever get it twisted…. Young men have given up the entirety of their youthful life trying to make a shot at this

 

The bills would not get him on the 21 day journey… Unless he was extremely close

1 hour ago, Doc Brown said:

Tre was coming off a torn ACL.  Different injuries.  Different rehab processes/timelines (both mentally and physically).  We'll see if Hyde returns but I wouldn't compare the two injuries unless you're a medical expert.

I agree… Now I don’t know what kind of physical shape Hyde is in

 

But it is a completely different injury that a cornerback rehabbing from an ACL tear

[papazoid]

6 hours ago, ExiledInIllinois said:

He's off IR. That means the 21 day window is ticking. What happens if they don't activate him.  Does he then have to stay on IR for all of next season? Or just that 21 day clock runs out during this year's playoffs?

 

at the end of 21 days, or anytime before that.....they have 2 choices, put him back on IR for good or put him on the 53 man roster (cutting someone else to make room). putting him back on IR this season does not effect next season.

Edited January 12, 2023 by papazoid

[Buckets]

19 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

I can see it now, the "Who Sits When Crowder is Activated?" thread.  Hot stuff comin'....

THIS 

[Don Otreply]

8 hours ago, TBBills Fan said:

 

 

Real men have feelings! We are strong and independent! 

 

 

 

Feelings, nothing more than feelings, feelings of ❤️ 💕 💗 love…,  

 

 

 

 

 

 

😂🤣

[BobbyC81]

19 hours ago, NewEra said:

2 weeks of practice will allow him to play vs Cinci.  
 

we need him vs that team imo.  Burrow, Chase, Higgin, Boyd vs Marlowe = 😢 

 

Don’t forget Hayden Hurst.

[stlbills13]

If he truly has no chance of being cleared, I'd be disappointed that he was activated and taking practice reps from the guys that clearly need the reps. 

 

Not saying he's for sure playing but activating him as a feel good moment seems like a bad decision considering the time of season and lack of experience in the secondary

[Magox]

There is no way that the doctor and team cleared him to practice just to raise his spirits.  That's just not how it works.    You already know that Micah Hyde and the doctors are in constant contact, Micah said as much that he can call him anytime and that the doctor will pick up the phone.   You know that Micah and his doctor have had discussions if he is "healed" as he said and that if there is any additional permanent risk to his neck, you know they've discussed the chances of him being able to suit up and play, what hurdles does he need to pass and what sort of setbacks would he have to avoid?

 

These same discussions have taken place with the doctors and the team as well.  They wouldn't just let him practice just for Micah's mental well being, if there is any possibility that he could suit up before the Superbowl is the only circumstance that they would allow him to practice.

 

Since we aren't in those conversations we don't know what sort of hurdles he has to pass and setbacks he has to avoid, but my hunch is that as upbeat as Micah sounds just judging him off his demeanor, I think there is a real chance he plays unless he has one of those setbacks.   Hopefully, assuming we win this Miami game he is not ruled out during the week next week for the Bengals/Ravens show down.

[John from Riverside]

44 minutes ago, Buckets said:

THIS 

McKenzie

[Billz4ever]

7 hours ago, Doc Brown said:

Tre was coming off a torn ACL.  Different injuries.  Different rehab processes/timelines (both mentally and physically).  We'll see if Hyde returns but I wouldn't compare the two injuries unless you're a medical expert.

I am in fact and have also had the same injury he had, so I'm quite familiar with the recovery timetable and what he experienced.

 

I'm sure his rehab was much more aggressive than what I went through, and every person is different but being back to some semblance of normal is one thing and being able to play a sport like football is something completely different.

 

Do I think he can do it? Absolutely.  But as he said in his presser yesterday, it's not up to him.  The team trainers and doctors will make the right call if they feel he's ready to go.  We aren't Miami. 😄

Edited January 12, 2023 by Billz4ever

[John from Riverside]

41 minutes ago, Billz4ever said:

I am in fact and have also had the same injury he had, so I'm quite familiar with the recovery timetable and what he experienced.

 

I'm sure his rehab was much more aggressive than what I went through, and every person is different but being back to some semblance of normal is one thing and being able to play a sport like football is something completely different.

 

Do I think he can do it? Absolutely.  But as he said in his presser yesterday, it's not up to him.  The team trainers and doctors will make the right call if they feel he's ready to go.  We aren't Miami. 😄

The thing about Micah Hyde is I think his greatest talent is how cerebral he is about the game being in the right place at the right time that didn’t go away with the neck injury
 

If they are letting him practice, the neck is healed. My concern is the lack of practice time and ramping him up for a playoff game. We are talking about a very short amount of time here.

[Billz4ever]

1 hour ago, John from Riverside said:

The thing about Micah Hyde is I think his greatest talent is how cerebral he is about the game being in the right place at the right time that didn’t go away with the neck injury
 

If they are letting him practice, the neck is healed. My concern is the lack of practice time and ramping him up for a playoff game. We are talking about a very short amount of time here.

One of the biggest challenges coming back from any injury where you've missed significant time is getting used to the speed of the game again, especially at the NFL level. That usually takes a minute, but if there's anyone that can do it quickly, I think it's Hyde.

Edited January 12, 2023 by Billz4ever

[Pabstblueribbon]

I think with 2 weeks of practice he will be up to speed and ready if the Dr's given him the okay. 

 

Getting Poyer with Hyde enables us to go back to seamlessly disguising and adjusting coverage against these cerebral qbs. If we get 80% Hyde I think this move could be almost as big for the Bills as getting Von back. 

Edited January 12, 2023 by Pabstblueribbon

[Warriorspikes51]

1 hour ago, Magox said:

There is no way that the doctor and team cleared him to practice just to raise his spirits.  That's just not how it works.    You already know that Micah Hyde and the doctors are in constant contact, Micah said as much that he can call him anytime and that the doctor will pick up the phone.   You know that Micah and his doctor have had discussions if he is "healed" as he said and that if there is any additional permanent risk to his neck, you know they've discussed the chances of him being able to suit up and play, what hurdles does he need to pass and what sort of setbacks would he have to avoid?

 

These same discussions have taken place with the doctors and the team as well.  They wouldn't just let him practice just for Micah's mental well being, if there is any possibility that he could suit up before the Superbowl is the only circumstance that they would allow him to practice.

 

Since we aren't in those conversations we don't know what sort of hurdles he has to pass and setbacks he has to avoid, but my hunch is that as upbeat as Micah sounds just judging him off his demeanor, I think there is a real chance he plays unless he has one of those setbacks.   Hopefully, assuming we win this Miami game he is not ruled out during the week next week for the Bengals/Ravens show down.

If we win and play Cincy next week, Hyde is needed on the field badly. 

[JohnBonhamRocks]

One thing I am not worried about with this organization is rushing players back too quickly. 

[extrahammer]

10 minutes ago, Warriorspikes51 said:

If we win and play Cincy next week, Hyde is needed on the field badly. 

Agreed and after listening to his presser yesterday, I think he comes back that game. Seems like he asked to meet with his doctor to see if he could give it a go as we entered the playoffs and his doctor said okay as long they cautiously monitor it and stay in constant communication. 

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, BobbyC81 said:

Don’t forget Hayden Hurst.

Hayden’s Dad?  Is that you? 

[newcam2012]

49 minutes ago, Pabstblueribbon said:

I think with 2 weeks of practice he will be up to speed and ready if the Dr's given him the okay. 

 

Getting Poyer with Hyde enables us to go back to seamlessly disguising and adjusting coverage against these cerebral qbs. If we get 80% Hyde I think this move could be almost as big for the Bills as getting Von back. 

Been a crazy season. Wouldn't surprise me if we get Von back too. Go Bills!!!!

[NewEra]

2 hours ago, John from Riverside said:

McKenzie

He’ll play

[dollars 2 donuts]

 

 

Who gets cut if Hyde and Crowder get called up or activated against the Bengals next weekend?

 

 

[SWATeam]

2 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Who gets cut if Hyde and Crowder get called up or activated against the Bengals next weekend?

 

 

Mayden would be one.  Not sure about the other.

[NoHuddleKelly12]

4 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

 

Who gets cut if Hyde and Crowder get called up or activated against the Bengals next weekend?

 

 

I vote punter—we are about to start the no-punt playoffs portion of our schedule…🤓

[RiotAct]

2 hours ago, Magox said:

Hopefully, assuming we win this Miami game he is not ruled out during the week next week for the Bengals/(Jags OR Chargers) show down.

fixed   (it’ll be the Bengals, though).