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Herbert banged up to.  
 

I’m not sure what Staley was supposed to do.  

 

But I would not have played either.   
 

 

Three Chargers injured against Broncos. Why did Brandon Staley play starters?
 

DENVER —  

 

A couple of questions into his postgame news conference, Chargers coach Brandon Staley was asked whether receiver Mike Williams could have returned after departing the game in the second quarter with a back injury.

“Possibly,” Staley said, “yeah.”

 

Unless Staley uses an unconventional definition of “returned” or received inaccurate information from the team’s medical staff, he lied.

 

Quarterback Justin Herbert’s most explosive target, Williams was unable to walk on his own power later on Sunday when he made his way to the team bus from the visiting locker room at Empower Field. His arm was draped over the right shoulder of a Chargers’ staffer, who held him around his lower back. Williams shuffled his feet slowly.
 

What a debacle.

 

What an absolute Charger of a debacle.

 

With the Chargers locked in as the AFC’s No. 5 seed before kickoff, the game was a meaningless exercise until Staley decided it wasn’t, and they now could be forced to play their postseason opener against the Jacksonville Jaguars without Williams, linebacker Kenneth Murray Jr. and edge rusher Joey Bosa.
 

https://www.latimes.com/sports/chargers/story/2023-01-08/hernandez-analyzes-chargers-at-broncos?_amp=true

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If I were Sean Payton, this is where I would be looking to go. He'd have one of the best young QB's in the league, a really good group of skill players all the way around, and a defense that could be easily top 10 in the league if everyone is healthy. If the Chargers were smart, they would be all over this. But I don't believe the Chargers are smart, and will likely continue the course of futility. 

Just now, NoSaint said:

Sean Payton would be such a game changer there. 

We must have posted this at the same time. :thumbsup:

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They are football players right?

so they play football. According to many here injuries are not an excuse, next man up, and all that whooie. Can’t have it both ways. 
 

GO BILLS!!!

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1 hour ago, Big Blitz said:

Herbert banged up to.  
 

I’m not sure what Staley was supposed to do.  

 

But I would not have played either.   
 

 

Three Chargers injured against Broncos. Why did Brandon Staley play starters?
 

DENVER —  

 

A couple of questions into his postgame news conference, Chargers coach Brandon Staley was asked whether receiver Mike Williams could have returned after departing the game in the second quarter with a back injury.

“Possibly,” Staley said, “yeah.”

 

Unless Staley uses an unconventional definition of “returned” or received inaccurate information from the team’s medical staff, he lied.

 

Quarterback Justin Herbert’s most explosive target, Williams was unable to walk on his own power later on Sunday when he made his way to the team bus from the visiting locker room at Empower Field. His arm was draped over the right shoulder of a Chargers’ staffer, who held him around his lower back. Williams shuffled his feet slowly.
 

What a debacle.

 

What an absolute Charger of a debacle.

 

With the Chargers locked in as the AFC’s No. 5 seed before kickoff, the game was a meaningless exercise until Staley decided it wasn’t, and they now could be forced to play their postseason opener against the Jacksonville Jaguars without Williams, linebacker Kenneth Murray Jr. and edge rusher Joey Bosa.
 

https://www.latimes.com/sports/chargers/story/2023-01-08/hernandez-analyzes-chargers-at-broncos?_amp=true

I feel like this happens every year going back to the Rivers days.

They're always super talented on paper and are always close to making the leap and they have injuries or just play like crap.

It's a shame too because Bosa and Williams just came back from injury

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33 minutes ago, Don Otreply said:

They are football players right?

so they play football. According to many here injuries are not an excuse, next man up, and all that whooie. Can’t have it both ways. 
 

GO BILLS!!!


injuries happen and it’s next man up. 
 

if Josh got hurt on a called run up 20 with two mins left there would still be explaining to do

 

its easy to have it both ways 

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22 minutes ago, NoSaint said:


injuries happen and it’s next man up. 
 

if Josh got hurt on a called run up 20 with two mins left there would still be explaining to do

 

its easy to have it both ways 

Only if you like being laughed at, 

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Cappa got hurt for the Bengals yesterday as well.. not sure of the severity.

 

I know the Bengals had something to play for, I guess.. but if he's out for the playoffs, that's 2/5ths of their starting OL out going into the post-season. 

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If the Chargers lose to Jax, their owner would be smart to cut Staley loose and bring in Payton. That team would instantly be better, make things much tougher on KC in the coming years within the division and as a byproduct of that, it would theoretically help Buffalo’s chances to have a better record than KC in future seasons. 
 

The Chargers win in spite of Staley, not because of him. He routinely makes boneheaded decisions, yesterday was just another example that will hurt his team going forward. Chargers should move on with a loss to Jax. If they win that one, there is no chance they will let him go. 

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1 hour ago, Don Otreply said:

They are football players right?

so they play football. According to many here injuries are not an excuse, next man up, and all that whooie. Can’t have it both ways. 
 

GO BILLS!!!

 

Well, you can compare and contrast to the personnel decisions made by Brian Daboll.

 

Daboll said, not only are we gonna rest our starting QB, we're gonna rest our backup QB and a bunch of our other key players.  And that will give our backups a chance to shine and show what they've got

 

And while the game wasn't really as close as the 16-23 score would appear, you have to admit they did a very creditable job against the Eagles, who were not flying as far and as high as I think they believed they would when the actives list came out.

 

As a result, the Giants are in much better shape heading into their matchup with the Vikings, than the Chargers are to take on a surging Jax.  The Vikes only beat the Giants on a Christmas Eve 61 yd fieldgoal with 4 seconds left, and I'm sure the Giants are eager for a rematch.

 

 

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38 minutes ago, gonzo1105 said:

 

I get the feeling that Jacksonville wins this game. 

They got dominated by KC in their regular season matchup. I think if the Jags get past LA and have to play KC again, they’ll be much more game, they’re a streaky team like that. Possibly may even pull off the upset. 

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2 hours ago, Billznut said:

If the Chargers lose to Jax, their owner would be smart to cut Staley loose and bring in Payton. That team would instantly be better, make things much tougher on KC in the coming years within the division and as a byproduct of that, it would theoretically help Buffalo’s chances to have a better record than KC in future seasons. 
 

The Chargers win in spite of Staley, not because of him. He routinely makes boneheaded decisions, yesterday was just another example that will hurt his team going forward. Chargers should move on with a loss to Jax. If they win that one, there is no chance they will let him go. 


 

 

The play is wait for McVay.  
 

Give Staley this season and next.  
 

Too perfect a setup for everybody 

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Williams and Bosa struggle to stay upright and Staley gets roasted for not cooking this into the gameplan.

 

Yeah, he should have gone the Dungy route of resting everyone and then showing up a week later for the one and done.  I mean, this Chargers squad is a playoff battle tested crew, right?

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3 hours ago, Shortchaz said:

Joey bosa hurt? WHAT?

There is no definitive evidence that Bosa got hurt. All the stories say he "may have" aggravated his groin injury, but that he also had an illness the day before the game. As far as I can tell, there's no clarity about an actual injury. I'm not saying at all that it was wise to play him, though. 

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1 hour ago, Ethan in Cleveland said:

Staley needs to go. That roster should have won the AFC West this year. If they lose first round he needs to go.

The opening day roster.  Sure.  Once Bosa missed 3/4 of the season and slater missed the entire season that roster wasn’t nearly the same. 

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Staley is holding back a top roster with his overly-cute "I do the opposite of everyone else" decisions. 

 

Some coaches can find a way to get a team with 8 wins worth of talent to 10 or 11. 

 

Staley is the opposite... he'll get your 12-14 win roster to 10-11 wins. And then he's supposed to get credit for "getting them to the playoffs"

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6 hours ago, SCBills said:

Cappa got hurt for the Bengals yesterday as well.. not sure of the severity.

 

I know the Bengals had something to play for, I guess.. but if he's out for the playoffs, that's 2/5ths of their starting OL out going into the post-season. 

O-line will be the Bengals Achilles heal in the playoffs. They will be unable to protect Burrow, pretty much a pure pocket passer, when the going gets tough and they face a defence that can bring the heat. Burrow moves well in the pocket and can help himself with his legs when given the opportunity, but he is not Josh Allen who is as dangerous improvising off broken plays than he is executing from the pocket. Running an O behind a suspect line is a much bigger challenge for Burrow and the Bengals than for Allen and the Bills. 
Having said that, I'm not sure we are the team to pressure Burrow, being without Von and with a weakened secondary.

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