Damar Hamlin - Now (1/11/2023) discharged from Buf Gen & “recovering at home”

[Draconator]

9 hours ago, Beck Water said:

 

Who is this Coy Wire dude and why do we think he has inside skinny?

 

Unless they started a bunch of tests at UC I’d be pretty surprised if they’ve finished everything they want to do in 1 day, especially with a guy who is reported to still be “very very tired” and they don’t want to over-tax

Coy Wire, former Buffalo Bill, still has inside connections with the org

[Real McClappy]

15 minutes ago, Seventeen said:

 

So sounds like physically, Damar could probably play again. Mentally, probably not even if they were able to bulk up his chest padding so there was no chance of recurrence.

I think it will be 100% mental only at this phase for Hamlin. Kid seems strong to me and I have a feeling he will be back next training camp in a Bills Uniform. 

 

 

[TheWei44]

37 minutes ago, Real McNasty said:

I think it will be 100% mental only at this phase for Hamlin. Kid seems strong to me and I have a feeling he will be back next training camp in a Bills Uniform. 

 

 

Agreed - It's much easier said than done, but mindset could be "how likely is it for me to get struck by lightning again?"

[Mr Info]

54 minutes ago, Seventeen said:

 

So sounds like physically, Damar could probably play again. Mentally, probably not even if they were able to bulk up his chest padding so there was no chance of recurrence.

I believe someone else may have posted this but the equipment lightening (shoulder pads, etc) in the NFL may have contributed to commotio cordis occurring for Damar. This is why this phenomenon has not occurred until now. Perhaps some equipment modification or use of flak jackets, etc. may prevent this from happening again.

[Matt_In_NH]

1 hour ago, Seventeen said:

 

If this is true, I'm shocked we haven't seen this happen in the NFL on other occasions. Unless there is some sort of perfect storm that has to occur for it to happen. 

 

Lots of things being ruled out does not mean there could be some other condition that has not been discovered.  This is good news, hopefully he is 100% healthy and can even consider coming back to play but I would think there would always be a concern, what if...  I think Reggie Lewis had some DR's saying he should not continue and one gave him the all clear, that did not go well.

[prissythecat]

33 minutes ago, Matt_In_NH said:

Lots of things being ruled out does not mean there could be some other condition that has not been discovered.  This is good news, hopefully he is 100% healthy and can even consider coming back to play but I would think there would always be a concern, what if...  I think Reggie Lewis had some DR's saying he should not continue and one gave him the all clear, that did not go well.

 

Lewis went shopping for a doc who would clear him despite multiple experts saying he should not play again due to a heart defect.  Would think that type of thing should not happen in this day and age.

[The Wiz]

 

[LABILLBACKER]

2 hours ago, Seventeen said:

 

So sounds like physically, Damar could probably play again. Mentally, probably not even if they were able to bulk up his chest padding so there was no chance of recurrence.

You're crazy if you think Damar won't play in Sept.  He's a Dawg and might ask for a little protective layer around chest area.  Count on it....

Edited January 11, 2023 by LABILLBACKER

[nucci]

1 hour ago, TheWei44 said:

Agreed - It's much easier said than done, but mindset could be "how likely is it for me to get struck by lightning again?"

as are most things

[Beck Water]

2 hours ago, Seventeen said:

 

If this is true, I'm shocked we haven't seen this happen in the NFL on other occasions. Unless there is some sort of perfect storm that has to occur for it to happen. 

 

 

There is a perfect storm. 

 

The blow must occur at exactly the precise millisecond in the cardiac cycle, in exactly the correct place, with sufficient force.

 

It's why it's very rare even in sports where a hard blow to the chest is pretty common, as in Baseball

[BearNorth]

I would think they could fashion a chest protector similar to what Josh wears without impeding his mobility or coverage speed.  The flak jacket hasn't slowed Josh down to any extent.

[TheBrownBear]

2 hours ago, Seventeen said:

 

So sounds like physically, Damar could probably play again. Mentally, probably not even if they were able to bulk up his chest padding so there was no chance of recurrence.

We know nothing of his mental state.  He could be itching to get back on the field.  I wouldn't completely rule out a return by the Super Bowl.

[sonyab1974]

I just saw on the news that he is out of the Buffalo hospital and is home! YAY!

[Low Positive]

15 minutes ago, TheBrownBear said:

We know nothing of his mental state.  He could be itching to get back on the field.  I wouldn't completely rule out a return by the Super Bowl.

I don't think that he'll have his strength back up by that point, but I expect that if doctors determine that there is no congenital defect that contributed to this incident that he will be back for training camp.

[Nextmanup]

With news that Damar has been discharged from the hospital, this is turning into a huge Bills news day.

 

Hyde practicing, Damar going home, TUA out for the game on Sunday.

 

What's next?  Have I won the lottery?

 

 

Just now, FrenchConnection said:

I don't think that he'll have his strength back up by that point, but I expect that if doctors determine that there is no congenital defect that contributed to this incident that he will be back for training camp.

I'd be shocked if he isn't done for the season.  And maybe more going forward.  Without knowing the details, it's impossible to speculate.

 

 

[The Jokeman]

Damar leading the charge this weekend?

[Shemp]

51 minutes ago, BearNorth said:

I would think they could fashion a chest protector similar to what Josh wears without impeding his mobility or coverage speed.  The flak jacket hasn't slowed Josh down to any extent.

 

Maybe that would help our defense who can't or won't tackle?

[Gunsgoodtime]

22 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

Damar leading the charge this weekend?

Save it for next weekend

[The Wiz]

 

[BillsShredder83]

1 hour ago, TheBrownBear said:

We know nothing of his mental state.  He could be itching to get back on the field.  I wouldn't completely rule out a return by the Super Bowl.

That hockey player was on ice 2 days later! For a playoff hockey game at that

[26TrapDraw]

4 hours ago, Mr Info said:

I believe someone else may have posted this but the equipment lightening (shoulder pads, etc) in the NFL may have contributed to commotio cordis occurring for Damar. This is why this phenomenon has not occurred until now. Perhaps some equipment modification or use of flak jackets, etc. may prevent this from happening again.

stuff like flak jackets and extra padding really limit movement especially for the skill players that need full range of movement. Probably not an option.

[Mr Info]

32 minutes ago, BeefCurtns said:

stuff like flak jackets and extra padding really limit movement especially for the skill players that need full range of movement. Probably not an option.

Perhaps not flak jackets but something like rib protectors that would not limit their mobility. This might have to be developed but Damar’s injury might expedite its r&d.

Interesting article on the shrinking pads in the NFL. Injuries are one thing but possible death was never considered. The next player may not be so fortunate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/sports/football/nfl-pads-michael-bennett.html

 

You may get one article for free from the Times.

Edited January 11, 2023 by Mr Info

[Brand J]

2 hours ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

Save it for next weekend

I’d absolutely save it for the Bengals game if I were the Bills. You’d add that much more electricity to an already electric atmosphere.

[appoo]

49 minutes ago, Mr Info said:

Perhaps not flak jackets but something like rib protectors that would not limit their mobility. This might have to be developed but Damar’s injury might expedite its r&d.

Interesting article on the shrinking pads in the NFL. Injuries are one thing but possible death was never considered. The next player may not be so fortunate.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/26/sports/football/nfl-pads-michael-bennett.html

 

You may get one article for free from the Times.

 

I feel like this might encourage someone to start looking into stuff like Carbon Fiber to incorporate into pads. 

Edited January 11, 2023 by appoo

[Seventeen]

36 minutes ago, JayBaller10 said:

I’d absolutely save it for the Bengals game if I were the Bills. You’d add that much more electricity to an already electric atmosphere.

 

If he's able, make him a captain and have him out there for the coin toss

[frostbitmic]

That's ******* awesome

[Billsatlastin2018]

 

[Bob Jones]

8 hours ago, Real McNasty said:

Basically, perfect storm or like getting hit by lightening if above is true. 

Commotio Cordis is what is sounds like from above statement if no underlying issue is truly present.  There are something like 30 cases recorded per year. 

 

https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/diseases/24572-commotio-cordis

 

Over 100+ years of college and pro football, hundreds of thousands of hard hits to the chest (many much harder than DH took) absorbed by players, and this is the first time it's ever happened in a football game at those levels. Your chance of getting hit by lightning is likely better. Perfect storm indeed!

[AuntieEm]

On 1/9/2023 at 7:57 PM, Mr. WEO said:

I’m sure the staff all know it’s location.  It’s usually in a box on the wall in a conspicuous location

 

   And when a student learns how to use the aed with the first aid training they will be instructed on the locations should they ever need to use them.

 

 

[RyanC883]

4 hours ago, BeefCurtns said:

stuff like flak jackets and extra padding really limit movement especially for the skill players that need full range of movement. Probably not an option.

 

Agree.  But good news.  Lax pads now have a special part that protects from this condition, and do not restrict movement.  I can see football incorporating that.  

Edited January 12, 2023 by RyanC883

[Mr. WEO]

1 hour ago, AuntieEm said:

 

   And when a student learns how to use the aed with the first aid training they will be instructed on the locations should they ever need to use them.

 

 

no doubt 

[machine gun kelly]

🙏🙏🙏🙏😇😇😇😇🏈🏋️‍♂️🦬💪

 

So glad he’s on the road to recovery.

[Over 29 years of fanhood]

12 hours ago, RyanC883 said:

 

Agree.  But good news.  Lax pads now have a special part that protects from this condition, and do not restrict movement.  I can see football incorporating that.  

Yep, just a puffy foam triangle over the sternum. No ristiction on movement, might not help body catches of the ball though…

 

Wonder if this mode of injury has been seen in rugby 

Edited January 12, 2023 by Over 29 years of fanhood

[The Wiz]

 

[appoo]

A Letter to Bills Mafia, Part III by Dion Dawkins | The Players’ Tribune (theplayerstribune.com)

 

Dion speaks with a lot of intimacy on what he and the team went through, and are still going through

Edited January 12, 2023 by appoo

[Playoffs?]

2 hours ago, The Wiz said:

 

This was pretty cool!

So awesome for Damar.

Love that JA17 rode the top sales all season. That’s our QB!

[muppy]

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a billboard for Damar Hamlin in Phoenix  I-10

 

very cool

 

💙💙💙

 

keep praying! Full Recovery and discernment on how to move forward with his life and charitable organization. Amen!

Edited January 14, 2023 by muppy

[muppy]

 Great listen worthy of your time. Poyer says the Bills Knew they were going to beat the pats" as well as insider behind the scenes info on the week before the pats game

 

 

[AlfaBill]

On 1/11/2023 at 11:15 AM, BillsShredder83 said:

That hockey player was on ice 2 days later! For a playoff hockey game at that

 Chris Pronger didn’t die on the ice and have to be resuscitated. He was un conscious for a few seconds before coming around prior to leaving the ice. Big difference. He had cardiac arrhythmia. We don’t know what happened to 3. 

[Doc]

23 minutes ago, AlfaBill said:

 Chris Pronger didn’t die on the ice and have to be resuscitated. He was un conscious for a few seconds before coming around prior to leaving the ice. Big difference. He had cardiac arrhythmia. We don’t know what happened to 3. 

 

It was commotio cordis until proven otherwise.  There was a hit to the chest and then a cardiac arrest.  The only thing we don't know is whether there was a reason that it happened after a hit that didn't seem so bad.