Buftex Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: I felt that he looked out of sorts on that long reception to Hurst on the first drive. a weird mistake we usually don’t see him make— was just sort of lost out there. I don’t know though— maybe unrelated. Yes...at some point they showed him, where you could see his face... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, DrDare said: It may be possible that they reschedule the game to "week 19" and push all the playoff games back 1 week and get rid of the bye week before the SB It’s not gonna happen. The Bills and Bengals won’t see each other again unless it’s a playoff game. This will be considered a tie or forfeit or they will figure out the fairest way to determine 1 seed with two teams playing only 16 games. It’s unprecedented but they aren’t going to push the league back for 1 game or shoe horn in this game on a short week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChronicAndKnuckles Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 21 minutes ago, Beck Water said: If someone is intubated, it’s standard procedure that they’re heavily sedated. Otherwise you feel something stuck in your throat and your reflex is to gag and cough and try to rip it out. Yes I’ve been intubated and they had me on Ativan. It’s hard to sleep after seeing this. My adrenaline is still going. A lot of parents are going to think twice before letting their kids play football if they haven’t already. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yawning Frog Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: From the site creator, nonetheless. I'm kind of surprised. Yea he should be setting a better example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 10 minutes ago, NUT said: He's probably a gambler. However, if they can't reschedule, I think the only fair way to choose a winner is a coin toss. I know that may seem very unfair to the Bengals but I think forcing the Bills to take a loss is more unfair. Why not just make the game a tie and move on. It is what it is. Love and prayers Damar. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr.Sack Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I can’t sleep until I know Damar Hamlin is gonna be okay. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Just Jack Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 12 minutes ago, RyanC883 said: Likely the NFL wanted to let them decide. Also, it’s hard to have the proper perspective from a TV. No one saw or could feel what those players did who were right there watching the cpr. Hopefully the Bills, Bengals and/or NFL have PTSD counselors, even if Hamlin is okay some players will need them. It was the only logical thing to do. If the NFL forced them to play (not sure how they could do that) fans and players would be outraged. If the Bills said we are not playing, and will forfeit, giving the Bengals the win, and the Bengals accepted the win, fans and players would be outraged. The only solution was the one they got, both teams agree to stop the game then, and decide sometime later, probably in a few days, what to do. Tonight was not the time to decide how to finish the game, there would be no moral/ethical victory for anyone. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDubya76 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 23 minutes ago, JGMcD2 said: Been in situations like this as a staff member with a team. Definitely not to this magnitude… but I’ll try and provide perspective. You’re scared and don’t want to be alone. You don’t know where else to go and it’s almost easier to stay there and process things together. Was in flight school on 9/11. Over 100 people from different parts of the world, I can absolutely agree with that explanation. There was comfort being together because all we really had was each other and the small bits of family that followed us to support our ambitions. I remember at one point the wife and I had 30 people in our tiny apartment watching news coverage in silence hoping we wouldn’t see the names of fathers/mothers of fellow pilot candidates/instructors that flew for the airlines. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: From the site creator, nonetheless. I'm kind of surprised. I’ll continue to echo, everyone’s just making it through best they can. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Dr.Sack said: I can’t sleep until I know Damar Hamlin is gonna be okay. You better put on a pot of coffee my friend cuz it aint going to be any time tonight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
appoo Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HurlyBurly51 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, zow2 said: Really worried. Seeing on Twitter that there really hasn’t been any positive updates even though a “friend” tweeted something out. Well he supposedly will be under for 24 hours so no updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buftex Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, zow2 said: It’s not gonna happen. The Bills and Bengals won’t see each other again unless it’s a playoff game. This will be considered a tie or forfeit or they will figure out the fairest way to determine 1 seed with two teams playing only 16 games. It’s unprecedented but they aren’t going to push the league back for 1 game or shoe horn in this game on a short week. Mike Tirico was on MSNBC earlier, and suggested it may be settled by win percentage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 5 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: The $30 will go to his annual fundraiser. I believe the jersey money goes to the NFL/Bills. Unless they also decide to donate a portion of jersey sales. Players get a cut of their own jersey sale. I’ve read as high as 2/3. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Simon said: So the guys in the booth were linked into the phone network that the NFL used to call the refs and coaches and tell them they had 5 minutes to get back on the field? Should this be another thread maybe if people want to discuss it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, zow2 said: It’s not gonna happen. The Bills and Bengals won’t see each other again unless it’s a playoff game. This will be considered a tie or forfeit or they will figure out the fairest way to determine 1 seed with two teams playing only 16 games. It’s unprecedented but they aren’t going to push the league back for 1 game or shoe horn in this game on a short week. They can’t do this. I don’t think there is a fair way to figure it out (other than to give the 1 seed to KC, who will have 1 more win). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, zow2 said: It’s not gonna happen. The Bills and Bengals won’t see each other again unless it’s a playoff game. This will be considered a tie or forfeit or they will figure out the fairest way to determine 1 seed with two teams playing only 16 games. It’s unprecedented but they aren’t going to push the league back for 1 game or shoe horn in this game on a short week. winning percentage still works the same with different games played 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playoffs? Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 9 minutes ago, NoSaint said: no you are not Then forgive me. What does the 16 game plan entail? Honest question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, NoSaint said: I’ll continue to echo, everyone’s just making it through best they can. No doubt, I'm not going to hold anything against anyone tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SDS Posted January 3, 2023 Author Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, LeGOATski said: From the site creator, nonetheless. I'm kind of surprised. Yes. I’m concerned about people sending their hard-earned money to a place that no one asked them to during an emotional time. Such a crazy thought from the site creator. What I really should be doing as someone who doesn’t know anything about the situation is to tell people to spend money left and right without any due diligence. Grow up. 1 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, NUT said: Because that would hand the Cheifs the one seed. I think that is a worse scenario for the NFL than somehow choosing a winner. Then it does. At this point, it all seems so trivial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, Process said: An hour after he was given CPR and while he is fighting for his life, hundreds of thousands of dollars were donated to a fundraiser for an event that happened two years ago. I have to agree with SDS on this one. I can't believe how much the charity thing blew up. I can't believe charity is on anyone's mind right now. I don't care about charities, #1 seeds, postponed games. All I care about it Damar surviving this. Pray everyone like never before. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 (edited) Wow...charity is almost at 1.5 million now...praying Damar makes it through to be able to put this to good use. Edited January 3, 2023 by Big Turk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Miyagi-Do Karate said: They can’t do this. I don’t think there is a fair way to figure it out (other than to give the 1 seed to KC, who will have 1 more win). Win %, AFC win %.. there are other ways Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeGOATski Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Mango said: Players get a cut of their own jersey sale. I’ve read as high as 2/3. Oh, nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefan66 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, JDubya76 said: Was in flight school on 9/11. Over 100 people from different parts of the world, I can absolutely agree with that explanation. There was comfort being together because all we really had was each other and the small bits of family that followed us to support our ambitions. I remember at one point the wife and I had 30 people in our tiny apartment watching news coverage in silence hoping we wouldn’t see the names of fathers/mothers of fellow pilot candidates/instructors that flew for the airlines. Probably why most of us are still on this thread. Comfort being together. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 3 minutes ago, What a Tuel said: Should this be another thread maybe if people want to discuss it? I should probably just shut up about it and let people vent if it makes them feel better at this point 🤷♂️ 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LOVEMESOMEBILLS Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 His gofundme just went over $1.5 million. Given by over 62,800 donors. God I LOVE our fans!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, longtimebillsfan said: Then it does. At this point, it all seems so trivial. Agree. I don't even care about football right now. I wouldn't care if the Bills don't take the field again this year. I can't believe I just typed that but it's the truth. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
0017 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, Dr.Sack said: I can’t sleep until I know Damar Hamlin is gonna be okay. I feel the same way!! I don’t know these guys on the Bills personally, but times like this I feel like I do! 😭 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, SDS said: Yes. I’m concerned about people sending their hard-earned money to a place that no one asked them to during an emotional time. Such a crazy thought from the site creator. What I really should be doing as someone who doesn’t know anything about the situation is to tell people to spend money left and right without any due diligence. Grow up. also, no need to be mean about your opinion. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sullim4 Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 I am thinking the "no contest" result is the likely outcome. The Bills and Bengals will play 16 game seasons, with standings determined by winning percentage. A tie would have potentially negative consequences on other teams with respect to tiebreakers for things like strength of victory, conference record, etc. Pretending like the game was never played feels like the most fair result for all the teams involved. That will mean the Bills likely get the 2 seed if they beat NE on Sunday. 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UKBillFan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, NoSaint said: winning percentage still works the same with different games played Probably the easiest solution if Bills-Bengals isn’t played, with the usual tiebreakers then taking effect. Feels wrong even considering it, though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
What a Tuel Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, SDS said: Yes. I’m concerned about people sending their hard-earned money to a place that no one asked them to during an emotional time. Such a crazy thought from the site creator. What I really should be doing as someone who doesn’t know anything about the situation is to tell people to spend money left and right without any due diligence. Grow up. If it eases your concern, there is precedent for large influxes like this to then be handled properly in new ways while still being committed to the core purpose. It isn't all going to just be dumped on Kelly and Nina's Daycare Center to buy millions of dollars in toys for kids. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, Big Turk said: Agree. I don't even care about football right now. I wouldn't care if the Bills don't take the field again this year. I can't believe I just typed that but it's the truth. I am with you brother. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: His gofundme just went over $1.5 million. Given by over 62,800 donors. God I LOVE our fans!!! I think it's fans across the NFL. I saw posts on the Cincy forums to donate to his charity 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CincyBillsFan Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 Just now, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: His gofundme just went over $1.5 million. Given by over 62,800 donors. God I LOVE our fans!!! From what I can tell the money is pouring in from all over the country. Other fan bases are joining in. It's quite remarkable. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HomeskillitMoorman Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 1 minute ago, LOVEMESOMEBILLS said: His gofundme just went over $1.5 million. Given by over 62,800 donors. God I LOVE our fans!!! I love all of those "dumb" people! Our fanbase always steps up. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yall Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 2 minutes ago, appoo said: I'm trying to remember the reactions from the Kevin Everett situation. I can't at least not clearly. What I do remember by way of comparison is the reaction between the players tonight and the players during that game was night and day. Hell, I probably won't use the word traumatized to describe my reaction, but that was hard to watch. Clearly everyone on the field understood the gravity of the situation and realized that he was hurt badly and medically was in a very bad spot. Only after we started hearing that he received CPR did we truly understand the seriousness of it. I certainly don't have any comments to make other than to say that I hope the young man pulls through. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sierra Foothills Posted January 3, 2023 Share Posted January 3, 2023 There seem to be 3 major controversies attached to this topic: 1) Charity 2) 5 minutes 3) Logistics regarding game outcome/standings/playoff seedings 1) What people want to do with their money is their business. 2) We'll have more reportage (if not greater clarity) tomorrow as to what actually happened with the supposed 5 minute edict from the NFL. 3) This perhaps should be a separate topic. JMOs... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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