Draconator Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 At this point in the season that's basically next season too, Arizona is *****. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnNord Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 ACL’s are so brutal. What makes it worse is that it was on natural turf. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 It didn't even look like an obvious movement to tear his ACL. These injuries are so strange, it's almost like something in the knee is ready give out and then it finally does on a routine non contact play. 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I am not a Murray fan. I more or less despise him. That said, I wish him a speedy recovery. If he worked his way out of the NFL with poor play or a bad attitude, I would be fine with that, but I hate to see a guy lose his opportunity due to an injury and an injury that occurred while he wasn't doing anything that would be remotely considered risky or stupid. 2 13 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boatdrinks Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Classic non- contact ACL injury , just on natural grass. Unusual in that regard , these are generally “ turf monster” injuries. This late in the season means AZ will be down a QB for pretty much next season too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
US Egg Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Let it be known, the clock is ticking on Murray’s return from ACL surgery. …..better not pull that I’m not ready Tre’ nonsense that knowledgeable fans in here weren’t duped by. 🤭 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 19 minutes ago, zow2 said: It didn't even look like an obvious movement to tear his ACL. These injuries are so strange, it's almost like something in the knee is ready give out and then it finally does on a routine non contact play. These guys are so big (not in Murrays case) are so fast so young. In order to get the most out of the way they play the game there needs to be a certain amount of tightness. I used to work with a few trainers who worked in the NBA, NFL, MLB (pitchers), and some Olympic sports, and they always talked about how tough it was to get guys in these twitchy sports bigger, faster, and stronger without hurting them. They need to be tight to perform, but not so tight that they risk injury. The bigger, faster, and stronger they get the smaller the window becomes. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buffaloboyinATL Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 It looks like a lot of the QB's that got "big" contracts recently, are are not exactly living up to them so far; Stafford, Murray, Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Watson. I believe Lamar will be next. I am wondering what effect this will have on QB salaries, if any. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Mango said: These guys are so big (not in Murrays case) are so fast so young. In order to get the most out of the way they play the game there needs to be a certain amount of tightness. I used to work with a few trainers who worked in the NBA, NFL, MLB (pitchers), and some Olympic sports, and they always talked about how tough it was to get guys in these twitchy sports bigger, faster, and stronger without hurting them. They need to be tight to perform, but not so tight that they risk injury. The bigger, faster, and stronger they get the smaller the window becomes. To wit: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, msw2112 said: I am not a Murray fan. I more or less despise him. That said, I wish him a speedy recovery. If he worked his way out of the NFL with poor play or a bad attitude, I would be fine with that, but I hate to see a guy lose his opportunity due to an injury and an injury that occurred while he wasn't doing anything that would be remotely considered risky or stupid. He didn't lose his opportunity. His marriage to the Cardinals will last until at least 2026 because of that contract they handed him. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Brutal news. Murray is a stud, hopefully he fully recovers and doesn’t lose a step. Still young. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Hate seeing players injured. I'll save the Kyler video game/midget/bad attitude jokes for another time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utah John Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 With the injury so late in the season, it's likely that Murray won't return until just before the 2023 playoffs. Which the Cardinals without him won't get to anyway. It'll be 2024 before he can play a full season. What a shame for him, the team, and the city. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rochesterfan Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 34 minutes ago, Warcodered said: At this point in the season that's basically next season too, Arizona is *****. Yeah and how do you proceed as an organization. There we’re already rumors that the HC and GM were under fire for the showing at the end of last year and this year. Do you change coaches and then watch as the team struggles for a year waiting for Murray? Do you keep the HC knowing that you plan to fire him when they struggle next year and move toward a new coach in 2024 and bring Murray back in 2024 after 18 - 20 months and just throw the red towel in on 2023? It impacts the team, Murray, and players like Hopkins that already struggles after the PED bust and now potentially has another year and a half with no QB. For a player I can not stand - this just stinks, but will be interesting to watch play out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Outside the athletic heroics he’s capable of the team has played better with McCoy this year. Murray is obviously better but I’m not sure he’s a better fit for their offense under kingsbury. Wish him a speedy recovery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eball Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Always feel bad for guys to whom this happens...especially on a completely harmless play like that. Hope he bounces back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsfaninSB Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I feel bad for the Cardinal fans. The feeling of being discouraged about the future really sucks. At least with the drought era Bills there was always hope for next year. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mushypeaches Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 The Cardinals are in a bad position of their own making. They're married to an average QB with all kinds of issues and now a big time injury They're married to an underwhelming coach that was supposed to do great things and hasn't I wish we could play them 2X/year 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I wonder how much they’re regretting giving him that contract?? And also to think JJ turned down Buffalo because he thought Arizona was a contender 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 230 million dollar contract 165 mil guaranteed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 This might be a stupid question, but are there any high tech, low weight knee braces that wouldn't hinder movement much? I know most college O lineman wear knee braces to prevent injury, but you almost never see it in the NFL as a preventative measure. It seems like someone should be able to create something to protect the knees of a $250 mil investment. Would the fact that it makes even a very slight difference in performance dissuade everyone from using it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 He seems to be in good spirits after the news. 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) 49 minutes ago, buffaloboyinATL said: It looks like a lot of the QB's that got "big" contracts recently, are are not exactly living up to them so far; Stafford, Murray, Wilson, Aaron Rodgers, Watson. I believe Lamar will be next. I am wondering what effect this will have on QB salaries, if any. I think it will have a major effect on QB salaries moving forward. Seeing how terrible Murray has been especially after he got paid and now he’s out for the season on an ACL tear, I think teams will be very hesitant on signing their QBS not named Allen or Mahomes to long term deals. Good chance now Baltimore doesn’t resign Lamar. Also Stafford, Rodgers and Brady playing like ***** and getting hurt doesn’t help much Edited December 13, 2022 by BuffaloBills1998 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 They should have stuck with Josh Rosen 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBills1998 Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 2 minutes ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said: They should have stuck with Josh Rosen There’s a reason they moved on from Rosen quickly. He was beyond terrible and they knew he wasn’t going to progress. Arizona originally wanted Allen but had to settle on Rosen after Buffalo got him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Never a big Murray fan, but I hate to see this. This is always sad news. Unless it happened to Edelman, of course. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dpberr Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Arizona is one of the league's quieter terrible teams. All hat no cattle. Closer to a rebuild than the Super Bowl. Besides hosting them, they aren't going anywhere near the Super Bowl with Kingsbury/Murray. His college plays long discovered by NFL defenses. He's 90% athlete, 10% NFL quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 I never wish to see anyone get hurt ... but he's a jackwagon and I have a hard time working up any sympathy for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Turk Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Guess he won't have to worry about studying instead of playing video games for a while at least...all on the Cardinals dime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 18 minutes ago, Gugny said: Never a big Murray fan, but I hate to see this. This is always sad news. Unless it happened to Edelman, of course. Edelman banged Kay Adams. Is that why you don't like Edelman ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 The Cardinal's record I feel would be the same with Murray or McCoy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gugny Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 Just now, JakeFrommStateFarm said: Edelman banged Kay Adams. Is that why you don't like Edelman ? Oh, heck no. If he wasn't such a doooshy doosh, that would make me respect him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 (edited) Jeez is there a more devastating time to get an ACL than the end of an NFL season? Pretty much means your next season is wiped out too... Brady to Zona? He could play with D-Hop. Edited December 13, 2022 by wjag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 47 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I wonder how much they’re regretting giving him that contract?? And also to think JJ turned down Buffalo because he thought Arizona was a contender I think there were regrets before the injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Ferguson Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 WIll a knee brace prevent the ACL injury? If so, why have most players not wear them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Epstein's Mother Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said: The Cardinal's record I feel would be the same with Murray or McCoy. Murray is 14-18 in his last 32 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Epstein's Mother said: I think there were regrets before the injury. On the bright side, he will now have plenty of time to read 4-hours each week.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson said: WIll a knee brace prevent the ACL injury? If so, why have most players not wear them? Likely would limit mobility a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toledo Bill Posted December 13, 2022 Share Posted December 13, 2022 1 hour ago, msw2112 said: I am not a Murray fan. I more or less despise him. That said, I wish him a speedy recovery. If he worked his way out of the NFL with poor play or a bad attitude, I would be fine with that, but I hate to see a guy lose his opportunity due to an injury and an injury that occurred while he wasn't doing anything that would be remotely considered risky or stupid. 55 minutes ago, BuffaloBills1998 said: I wonder how much they’re regretting giving him that contract?? And also to think JJ turned down Buffalo because he thought Arizona was a contender He “said” it was due to being a contender, didn’t they offer him the most money? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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