Bengals Get Monday Off After Beating KC... Show up to work Monday anyway.

[What a Tuel]

2 hours ago, dave mcbride said:

3 games in 12 days happens all of the time and most weeks of the season. Let’s not exaggerate! Any time that plays three games in a row in which the third game is a Thursday night game has played 3 games in 12 days. Literally.

 

What the Bills did was not normal procedure for any team playing Thursday games.

 

 

[nedboy7]

The OP is really Art Vandaley.  I though it was just a screen name.  Makes sense now. 

2 hours ago, NUT said:

Some of you are so sensitive. 1000ATTACKMODEALLDAY

 

sounds like you got triggered. 

[Royale with Cheese]

16 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

Bottom line: I’d rather play the Browns in pristine conditions given our elite QB than in snowy, windy slop given their fantastic running game. Do you disagree?

Why does this matter?  The Browns offense, just like any offense will be better in pristine conditions.  They would prefer pristine conditions.  
 

Its like you’re discounting the adversity of the Bills because a running team like the Browns had to play in pristine conditions against them.

 

 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Royale with Cheese

[Fleezoid]

[dave mcbride]

8 minutes ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Why does this matter?  The Browns offense, just like any offense will be better in pristine conditions.  They would prefer pristine conditions.  
 

Its like you’re discounting the adversity of the Bills because a running team like the Browns had to play in pristine conditions against them.

 

 

I'm not saying they didn't have adversity. They didn't get to practice and more importantly Allen was hurting. I'm just saying that playing in Detroit wasn't the hardship that some here are making it out to be. Christ, they won there twice in four days, and the Lions team they beat is actually a good team now.

[Nephilim17]

56 minutes ago, SageAgainstTheMachine said:

Bengals are my 2nd team ever since the Dalton to Boyd throw and the subsequent connection between Bills Mafia and Dalton’s charity.

Yeah, pretty easy to root (as a second-level team) for them: underdogs from a smaller market — who have been to the big game but never won it all — and the help they gave the Bills with that win. I'm always a sucker for underdogs.

If and when the Bills become the new Evil Empire I'll have to deal with them no longer being an underdog but I'll figure it out.

Edited December 6, 2022 by Nephilim17

[Royale with Cheese]

4 minutes ago, dave mcbride said:

I'm not saying they didn't have adversity. They didn't get to practice and more importantly Allen was hurting. I'm just saying that playing in Detroit wasn't the hardship that some here are making it out to be. Christ, they won there twice in four days, and the Lions team they beat is actually a good team now.

You saw the way Allen reacted with how he was hugging Diggs…he looked like a major weight was lifted off of his shoulders.  You heard the sideline reporter say on the broadcast that the Bills sideline is dead.

 

You’re right.  The Bills players felt minimal hardship.

 

 

[Rico]

5 hours ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

Bills haven’t played anywhere near their potential…as they sit atop of the AFC and are getting healthier and ramping things up when they normally do in December.

 

Thank you, but I’m sleeping very well at night. 
 

 

 

 

I’m sleeping well too… now, the fraud Ravens? They should be scared.

[Alphadawg7]

6 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/allbengals-insiders-plus/joe-burrow-bengals-went-to-work-despite-being-off-following-win-over-chiefs

 

Talk about a massive difference of culture and player commitment. 

 

Now to be clear 1 day a week off is mandated by the CBA on a normal week.  3 days off is mandated after a Thursday game long week. 

 

However, it is up to the players to do with that time as they see fit, for the Bills we got players leaving town, for the Bengals, they are showing up to get better. 

 

Culture like this is the difference between winning teams and Championship teams. We got guys hopping on planes to chill, they got guys bucking down in the most important stretch of the season.

 

Meanwhile, Bills have not played anywhere near their potential since the bye and the Bengals have gotten better going 6-1 in their last 7 despite missing their top offensive weapon, who is now returning. 

 

Bengals pose every much a threat as the Chiefs, this Monday night game week 17 is going to be very telling. Hope the Bills get their stuff together.

You need a new schtick.  
 

 

Edited December 6, 2022 by Alphadawg7

[ArtVandalay]

5 hours ago, Mango said:

The Bengals are about to be a problem. I didn’t get the hype last year, but they’re getting hot at the right time. 
 

I was onboard with what you are saying until you brought the Bills into it. We’ve had a rough go this season with injuries and high expectations. We’re gripping too tight at the moment. We haven’t played fast and loose in a month or more. I’m not sure that being in the facility more is the solution to that. When teams get that way it’s a razor thin line. Taking 2-3 days is the safe route for sure. 

Oh really, like how the bye week helped? That's where all our problems started.  Emotional high off KC win, then the bye vacation... same exact thing happened last year too.

 

The Bengals won the AFC last year... and they are putting in more work than us.

 

You don't fix sloppy play by taking time off, that's what preceded the sloppy play to begin with.

 

 

[NoHuddleKelly12]

Ah yes, remember the good ol’ days when our coaching staff was so committed to winning that they never left the office at all? 🧐

https://www.newyorkupstate.com/buffalo-bills/2016/04/rob_ryan_has_been_sleeping_in_his_office_at_one_bills_drive.html

[Mango]

14 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Oh really, like how the bye week helped? That's where all our problems started.  Emotional high off KC win, then the bye vacation... same exact thing happened last year too.

 

The Bengals won the AFC last year... and they are putting in more work than us.

 

You don't fix sloppy play by taking time off, that's what preceded the sloppy play to begin with.

 

 

 

When a team is gripping a bit too tight, not playing well, and struggling to find a groove, tightening the reins and readying the whip has a risk of being a disaster. 

 

Easing off a bit will generally either be net neutral or net positive. It almost never makes a skid worse. 

[teef]

I’ve heard that Joe Burrow is having all of his food blended so he doesn’t have to chew, leaving him more time to prepare for football. 

[John from Riverside]

6 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/allbengals-insiders-plus/joe-burrow-bengals-went-to-work-despite-being-off-following-win-over-chiefs

 

Talk about a massive difference of culture and player commitment. 

 

Now to be clear 1 day a week off is mandated by the CBA on a normal week.  3 days off is mandated after a Thursday game long week. 

 

However, it is up to the players to do with that time as they see fit, for the Bills we got players leaving town, for the Bengals, they are showing up to get better. 

 

Culture like this is the difference between winning teams and Championship teams. We got guys hopping on planes to chill, they got guys bucking down in the most important stretch of the season.

 

Meanwhile, Bills have not played anywhere near their potential since the bye and the Bengals have gotten better going 6-1 in their last 7 despite missing their top offensive weapon, who is now returning. 

 

Bengals pose every much a threat as the Chiefs, this Monday night game week 17 is going to be very telling. Hope the Bills get their stuff together.

Run them till they puke. That’s the McDermott way.

1 minute ago, teef said:

I’ve heard that Joe Burrow is having all of his food blended so he doesn’t have to chew, leaving him more time to prepare for football. 

I read that he doesn’t need sleep, so he just practices all night long

[teef]

3 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I read that he doesn’t need sleep, so he just practices all night long

God I wish we had a hard working, athletic quarterback like Joe Burrow. 

[John from Riverside]

Just now, teef said:

God I wish we had a hard working, athletic quarterback like Joe Burrow. 

Yeah me too how can we get one of those guys?
 

Josh Allen is such a slacker

[TheBrownBear]

8 minutes ago, John from Riverside said:

I read that he doesn’t need sleep, so he just practices all night long

That's a little misleading, since he does physically rest from 12am-6am.  It's just that during this time he lies in a cryofreezing chamber with a VR headset that simulates every defensive play/formation throughout NFL history and tests him on making the correct reads.

[LeGOATski]

37 minutes ago, ArtVandalay said:

Oh really, like how the bye week helped? That's where all our problems started.  Emotional high off KC win, then the bye vacation... same exact thing happened last year too.

 

The Bengals won the AFC last year... and they are putting in more work than us.

 

You don't fix sloppy play by taking time off, that's what preceded the sloppy play to begin with.

 

 

You need to show us the data for a true comparison. I wanna see hours worked, miles run, heart rate tracking and sleep schedules since the first day of camp.

 

Get on it, Art!

[JakeFrommStateFarm]

I get what the OP is saying.

 

The bengals are a dangerous team.

But are they better than the Bills ?

 

I guess we'll find out Jan 2.

[Freak-O]

7 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/allbengals-insiders-plus/joe-burrow-bengals-went-to-work-despite-being-off-following-win-over-chiefs

 

Talk about a massive difference of culture and player commitment. 

 

Now to be clear 1 day a week off is mandated by the CBA on a normal week.  3 days off is mandated after a Thursday game long week. 

 

However, it is up to the players to do with that time as they see fit, for the Bills we got players leaving town, for the Bengals, they are showing up to get better. 

 

Culture like this is the difference between winning teams and Championship teams. We got guys hopping on planes to chill, they got guys bucking down in the most important stretch of the season.

 

Meanwhile, Bills have not played anywhere near their potential since the bye and the Bengals have gotten better going 6-1 in their last 7 despite missing their top offensive weapon, who is now returning. 

 

Bengals pose every much a threat as the Chiefs, this Monday night game week 17 is going to be very telling. Hope the Bills get their stuff together.

Is it a full time job for you trying to complain about the Bills in different ways or just a really time consuming hobby? It’s getting more and more far fetched each time. 

[TYSONKO1]

Hmmm, we just won 3 games in 12 days with approx 4 days of practice. 1.33333333 days of practice avg. Ok, your right. Let's try to get our avg up to 3 days to cement our win and complete our culture tranformation.

The insanity 🤯

[WhoTom]

Poster seen on the walls of Vandelay Industries:

 

The beatings will continue

until morale improves.

 

 

Edited December 6, 2022 by WhoTom

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

8 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

Poster seen on the walls of Vandelay Enterprises:

 

The beatings will continue

until morale improves.

 

 

[Ridgewaycynic2013]

2 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

Oh really, like how the bye week helped? That's where all our problems started.  Emotional high off KC win, then the bye vacation... same exact thing happened last year too.

 

The Bengals won the AFC last year... and they are putting in more work than us.

 

You don't fix sloppy play by taking time off, that's what preceded the sloppy play to begin with.

 

 

Says the guy who scammed his way into a Rascal personal scooter from Play Now. 🤨

[John from Riverside]

1 hour ago, JakeFrommStateFarm said:

I get what the OP is saying.

 

The bengals are a dangerous team.

But are they better than the Bills ?

 

I guess we'll find out Jan 2.

That’s actually not what he say. He’s saying that the Bengals work harder.
 

which, of course is total bull####

1 hour ago, Freak-O said:

Is it a full time job for you trying to complain about the Bills in different ways or just a really time consuming hobby? It’s getting more and more far fetched each time. 

There is a particular group on this board that is trying to normalize this

[Just in Atlanta]

Wait, didn't one poster say the Bengals players weren't even playing? 

At least we play. 

[folz]

I think the OP just likes to see how many negative reactions he can get with each post/topic.

 

Let's ignore everything the Bills players did this year in the name of commitment and culture, like our All-Pro safety (who is upset about his contract) hiring a car to drive him to an away game because he couldn't fly; or players digging themselves out of 7 feet of snow, or walking half a mile in 7 feet of snow to get to the facility to fly out for a game; guys rehabbing every Monday despite it being a victory Monday (day off); rallying around their teammate Dawson Knox (when his brother died), etc., etc.

 

But, no, let's ignore all of that and then use one thing another team does as proof that the Bills suck/aren't committed enough. It's either troll work or insanity. As others have said, for what the Bills have recently been through, the extra days of rest and being with family is more important than one extra film session or whatever on a 10-day week. Who cares if some Bills players flew out of Buffalo to have a mini vacay or visit family. That is exactly what Sean wanted giving them this time off, for them to rest their minds and bodies for the stretch run. But as Sean always says...just be smart about it.

 

Cincy is indeed a major contender this year that will be in the hunt. And it's a nice story for Cincy fans to believe in the commitment of their team, but it says/means nothing about the other 31 teams in the league. And one extra film session or lift on a Monday in week 14 isn't going to automatically win them a Super Bowl. Geez.

[FilthyBeast]

9 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

https://www.si.com/nfl/bengals/allbengals-insiders-plus/joe-burrow-bengals-went-to-work-despite-being-off-following-win-over-chiefs

 

Talk about a massive difference of culture and player commitment. 

 

Now to be clear 1 day a week off is mandated by the CBA on a normal week.  3 days off is mandated after a Thursday game long week. 

 

However, it is up to the players to do with that time as they see fit, for the Bills we got players leaving town, for the Bengals, they are showing up to get better. 

 

Culture like this is the difference between winning teams and Championship teams. We got guys hopping on planes to chill, they got guys bucking down in the most important stretch of the season.

 

Meanwhile, Bills have not played anywhere near their potential since the bye and the Bengals have gotten better going 6-1 in their last 7 despite missing their top offensive weapon, who is now returning. 

 

Bengals pose every much a threat as the Chiefs, this Monday night game week 17 is going to be very telling. Hope the Bills get their stuff together.

 

Excellent post and point, for the Bengals organization this was not their superbowl and just another game on a 17 game schedule against a team they know they can beat. No stupid dancing in practice and shenanigans on social media afterwords.

 

Bengals really starting to concern me and quietly positioning themselves for the top seed in the AFC and another SB run. They've also had a ton of injuries and still not playing to their full potential despite going 8-2 in their last 10 after an 0-2 hole. Reminds me a lot of the 1993 Cowboys in some ways.

[Bubba Gump]

12 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said:

 

Excellent post and point, for the Bengals organization this was not their superbowl and just another game on a 17 game schedule against a team they know they can beat. No stupid dancing in practice and shenanigans on social media afterwords.

 

Bengals really starting to concern me and quietly positioning themselves for the top seed in the AFC and another SB run. They've also had a ton of injuries and still not playing to their full potential despite going 8-2 in their last 10 after an 0-2 hole. Reminds me a lot of the 1993 Cowboys in some ways.

 

And exactly how do you know what they do during practice and afterwards? Are you there watching for possible "shenanigans" every day? Do you run their social media site? Just curious as you seem to know everything that happens within the Bengals organization. 

[QLBillsFan]

The Bills clearly have poor commitment and culture. This is because the Bengals decided to come in Monday on their day off. Good for them! The three best teams in the AFC are pretty clear. 
The Bills have some challenging games ahead. It’s possible the Bengals will be in the way of HF for the Bills. All three including KC have a shot at HF. The AFC is really good. The winner will have nothing to do with the Bengals coming in on Monday. 
 

Edited December 6, 2022 by QLBillsFan

[Joe Ferguson]

Bengals will lose to the Browns. Bank on it.

[Low Positive]

Just now, Joe Ferguson said:

Bengals will lose to the Browns. Bank on it.

It’s actually a pretty good bet. Joe Burrow has never beaten the Cleveland Browns. 

[dollars 2 donuts]

6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

 

That was kinda' the problem last year though too..........the Bills didn't play to their potential at midseason while the Bengals were surging........and that allowed Cinci to catch and move ahead of them in the seeding(#3) and then manipulate their way to #4 by tanking their finale so that they instead lined up with a punchless TN team in the second round instead of KC.

 

 

 

Badol, given the OP if you want to give examples of the Bills not showing up, or not dealing with adversity, I am willing to listen. 

[Another Fan]

44 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

It’s actually a pretty good bet. Joe Burrow has never beaten the Cleveland Browns. 

I liked the sentiments the OP was trying to convey...   but I think in reality this is why Joe and the team are trying and putting in more work this week.  

[BADOLBILZ]

52 minutes ago, dollars 2 donuts said:

 

Badol, given the OP if you want to give examples of the Bills not showing up, or not dealing with adversity, I am willing to listen. 

 

In each of the seasons the Bills have been competitive under McDermott they have had a mid-season malaise.

 

Typically that involves unforeseen home "no show" asskjickings to teams like Philly or Indy..........or a stunning loss like the 9-6 defeat to the worst team in football last season.

 

This season their malaise lasted 5 games with the damage being stunningly blowing huge second half leads to the Jets and Vikings in back to back weeks.

 

As I've said before.......if you expect to finish with the #1 seed in one of these season you need to have one where you do not string together month plus long stretches like that.

 

Of the last 40 #1 seeds in either conference in the NFL only ONE has finished with a sub .750 win %.

 

 

Edited December 7, 2022 by BADOLBILZ

[billybob71]

Bengals walk uphill both ways to practice, Bills ride the bus to practice, soft

[Norcalbillsfan]

The bills just had arguably the hardest 3 weeks of any team in the nfl all year, considering practice, weather, travel, and injuries. And won all 3, I think its ok if josh rests his elbow for a few days.

[NeverOutNick]

Pretty cool story. I’ve always liked burrow and I hope we see a lot of Bills vs Bengals AFC championships over the next 10 years…obviously with Buffalo coming out on top

[folz]

2 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said:

 

In each of the seasons the Bills have been competitive under McDermott they have had a mid-season malaise.

 

Typically that involves unforeseen home "no show" asskjickings to teams like Philly or Indy..........or a stunning loss like the 9-6 defeat to the worst team in football last season.

 

This season their malaise lasted 5 games with the damage being stunningly blowing huge second half leads to the Jets and Vikings in back to back weeks.

 

As I've said before.......if you expect to finish with the #1 seed in one of these season you need to have one where you do not string together month plus long stretches like that.

 

Of the last 40 #1 seeds in either conference in the NFL only ONE has finished with a sub .750 win %.

 

 

 

I think this is a little bit of the grass is always greener. We suffer from a bit of Bills myopia. We focus on and scrutinize our own team so much that we don't always have a balanced perspective on the rest of the league. Let me throw a few things out there.

 

First, over the last 5 years, 10 teams have qualified as a #1 seed (AFC/NFC). Do you know how many of them won a Super Bowl? One. Yes, only 1 number one seed of the last 10 won the big game. No question the first seed is great to have, can't beat home field advantage, but it is no guarantee of a Lombardi.

 

Also, you act as if other top teams don't go through ups and downs during a season, like the Bills do. Let's look at the last 4 years (the last 8 #1 seeds). These are the teams with the best records that year and yet all but one (KC in 2020) had a "Bills/McDermott-like" slump. 

 

Tenn: 2021 #1 AFC seed: lost 2 of 4 to start the year, then lost 3 of 4 games between weeks 11-15.

GB: 2021 NFC #1 seed: lost 2 out of 3 games in a stretch between weeks 9 and 11.

KC: 2020 AFC #1 seed: No slump or stretch of bad games.

GB: 2020 NFC #1 seed: lost 3 of 6 in a stretch from weeks 6-11.

Balt: 2019 AFC #1 seed: lost 2 games in a row (weeks 3-4)

49ers: 2019 NFC #1 seed: lost 3 of 6 games between weeks 10-15.

KC: 2018 AFC #1 seed: lost 3 of 5 games between weeks 11-16.

NO: 2018 NFC #1 seed: lost 2 of their last 5 games.

 

And If KC is currently the standard, well in the last 5 years, only once did they avoid the type of slump that you are describing for McDermott/the Bills. Four out of five years they suffered a similar or actually worse slump: 

2021: lost 4 out of 6 games between weeks 2 and 7 (including a 27-3 drubbing by the Titans and an 18 point loss to the Bills).

2020: No slump...but didn't win the SB.

2019: lost 4 of 6 games between weeks 5 and 10.

2018: lost 3 of 5 games between weeks 11-16.

2017: lost 6 games in a 7-game stretch---though that was with Alex Smith at QB, not Mahomes

 

I think you may be putting too much into this slump thing for the Bills. Every team has ups and downs based on many different factors throughout the year (injuries, travel, adjustments, defenses catching up to offenses, etc., etc.). And it's just hard to maintain the same passion, confidence, execution for 17 weeks straight, especially when you are a top team and everyone is gunning for you every week. The NFL season is long.

Edited December 7, 2022 by folz

[Low Positive]

9 minutes ago, folz said:

 

I think this is a little bit of the grass is always greener. We suffer from a bit of Bills myopia. We focus on and scrutinize our own team so much that we don't always have a balanced perspective on the rest of the league. Let me throw a few things out there.

 

First, over the last 5 years, 10 teams have qualified as a #1 seed (AFC/NFC). Do you know how many of them won a Super Bowl? One. Yes, only 1 number one seed of the last 10 won the big game. No question the first seed is great to have, can't beat home field advantage, but it is no guarantee of a Lombardi.

 

Also, you act as if other top teams don't go through ups and downs during a season, like the Bills do. Let's look at the last 4 years (the last 8 #1 seeds). These are the teams with the best records that year and yet all but one (KC in 2020) had a "Bills/McDermott-like" slump. 

 

KC: 2021 AFC #1 seed: lost 4 out of 6 games between weeks 2 and 7 last year (including a 27-3 drubbing by the Titans and an 18 point loss to the Bills). 

GB: 2021 NFC #1 seed: lost 2 out of 3 games in a stretch between weeks 9 and 11.

KC: 2020 AFC #1 seed: No slump or stretch of bad games.

GB: 2020 NFC #1 seed: lost 3 of 6 in a stretch from weeks 6-11.

Balt: 2019 AFC #1 seed: lost 2 games in a row (weeks 3-4)

49ers: 2019 NFC #1 seed: lost 3 of 6 games between weeks 10-15.

KC: 2018 AFC #1 seed: lost 3 of 5 games between weeks 11-16.

NO: 2018 NFC #1 seed: lost 2 of their last 5 games.

 

And If KC is currently the standard, well in the last 5 years, only once did they avoid the type of slump that you are describing for McDermott/the Bills. Four out of five years they suffered a similar or worse slump (see above for 2018-2021; in 2017 they lost 6 games in a 7-game stretch---though that was with Alex Smith at QB, not Mahomes). And the year they didn't slump, they didn't win the Super Bowl (made the big dance but got pummeled by TB).

 

I think you may be putting too much into this slump thing for the Bills. Every team has ups and downs based on many different factors throughout the year (injuries, travel, adjustments, defenses catching up to offenses, etc., etc.). And it's just hard to maintain the same passion, confidence, execution for 17 weeks straight, especially when you are a top team and everyone is gunning for you every week. The NFL season is long.

I agree with everything here, but your point was even stronger given the fact that TEN was the #1 seed in 2021. They lost a close game to the #4 seeded Bengals in the divisional round.