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9 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

Tre White and Xavier Rhodes help us at CB, Elam might get some time in dime. 

I agree.   Elam left Pickens open pretty much entire game against Pittsburg by giving him 10 yard cushion.  He cannot cover decent WR one on One.  I rather have White or Jackson covering Garret Wilson. 

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7 hours ago, Chandler#81 said:

Crap. 2nd video won’t show😡

Screw it. 2nd vid won’t show. Here’s another one

 

I wish this Bills team had Moulds.  Big, tough, and fast- Josh would be unstoppable if we added Moulds to Diggs and company

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58 minutes ago, Bills!Win! said:

Imagine how good Moulds really was. After all he had flutie, van pelt and Johnson throwing to him and a mediocre Bledsoe. 

Reality is subpar QBs can force feed a stud a ball… they are pro QBs after all

 

don’t get @BADOLBILZstarted 

 

Moulds Is a machine … who was force fed the ball … Even Josh Gordon led the NFL in receiving with awful quarterbacks

 

Coming into the league as a better route runner would’ve helped his stats for the first two years

 

to be clear he was a Monster … But if you put any good wide receiver with a Hall of Famer for a long stretch they’ll  have crazy numbers

 

It’s the NFL… You work with what you have

 

 

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12 hours ago, Greg S said:

 

In the first game the Bills were going up and down the field, but they just couldn't finish drives. Miami only won 21-19 against a Bills team that was down many starters. I just think Miami is more of a paper tiger given that they have beaten a lot of crap teams. The Jets I think are the real deal. They get a QB, and they will be a problem for the rest of the division.

 

That is the frustration of all three Bills losses. Any one play, positive or negative (of multiple options in all three games), could have won the game for us:

  • Miami - Fumble at the 10 yard line, the terrible defense on the long TD pass, Josh throwing the ball into the ground with a wide-open McKenzie, McKenzie not getting out of bounds, etc.
  • Jets - Two Redzone turnovers; not getting off the field on 3rd down on the Jets long drive in the 4th; Gabe not catching a very catch-able ball at the end, etc.
  • Minnesota - Not taking the FG; another Redzone INT and long return to add insult; one long run with terrible defense; an incredible catch that I still can't figure out how he made--actually, Lewis helped him; the fumble; a final interception; etc.

Of course, we could play this game the other way as well: The Ravens passing up the FG, Mahomes' intercept at the end of that game, etc.

 

But the point is, we are so frustratingly close in those three losses, but yet so far away--the results are what they are.

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14 hours ago, eball said:

 

Miami is middle of the pack.  They beat the bad teams, and struggle against anyone above average.

I hate Miami just as much as anyone else but How is Miami middle of the pack?.. Lol.

 

Teams that are probably better?

 

Bills, chiefs, bengals, cowboys, eagles, San Fran .

 

That would put them 7th, and even if you want to be harsh, top 10 at the worst…

 

A middle of a pack team is a team like New England 

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Watching NFLN, 3 of the to 10 teams in the NFL are in the AFCE.  2 of which the Bills play the the next 2 weeks, have already beat the Bills this year.  Yet fans are expecting blow outs the next 2 games.  We will be lucky to win them, as both has already beaten us this year, somehow our fans seem to think we are immortal and no chance we loose to Jets or Mia.  News flash, we already lost once to both of them.

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28 minutes ago, Chandler#81 said:

Way back to ‘64, the Duby & Daryl show!

 

Thanks for posting these.  Wow the old Rockpile and film technology made every game look like a night game.  I was a young kid then so have to ask - did the AFL have night games ie SAT evening ?

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46 minutes ago, Gunsgoodtime said:

Watching NFLN, 3 of the to 10 teams in the NFL are in the AFCE.  2 of which the Bills play the the next 2 weeks, have already beat the Bills this year.  Yet fans are expecting blow outs the next 2 games.  We will be lucky to win them, as both has already beaten us this year, somehow our fans seem to think we are immortal and no chance we loose to Jets or Mia.  News flash, we already lost once to both of them.

 

We will be "lucky" to win them. The Bills are home and a 9.5-point favorite over the Jets. They will be favorite over Miami as well. They could lose but they are expected to win. Hope Miami is ready to play our starters this time as the Bills have a lot of players back.

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On 12/5/2022 at 8:42 PM, Warcodered said:

 

 

 

It would be cool if our media asked Dorsey real questions about player snap counts, formations and strategy.

 

Instead it’s talk about what having Josh Allen on your team means to you, and explain the process of facing the Jets the second time around. 

 

 

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2 hours ago, CSBill said:

 

That is the frustration of all three Bills losses. Any one play, positive or negative (of multiple options in all three games), could have won the game for us:

  • Miami - Fumble at the 10 yard line, the terrible defense on the long TD pass, Josh throwing the ball into the ground with a wide-open McKenzie, McKenzie not getting out of bounds, etc.
  • Jets - Two Redzone turnovers; not getting off the field on 3rd down on the Jets long drive in the 4th; Gabe not catching a very catch-able ball at the end, etc.
  • Minnesota - Not taking the FG; another Redzone INT and long return to add insult; one long run with terrible defense; an incredible catch that I still can't figure out how he made--actually, Lewis helped him; the fumble; a final interception; etc.

Of course, we could play this game the other way as well: The Ravens passing up the FG, Mahomes' intercept at the end of that game, etc.

 

But the point is, we are so frustratingly close in those three losses, but yet so far away--the results are what they are.

I really don't get this thought process. The margin for winning and losing games is pretty thin for most competitive teams. The Bills lost 3 games in a close fashion while playing pretty poorly, injury riddled, and other factors. However, the Bills won 2 games in dramatic fashion in the last seconds of those games. 

 

Point being, you could play woulda, coulda, and shoulda, every season. No better example than 13 seconds last year. Every season, I expect teams including Buffalo to win and lose games by the thinnest of margins. That's just football. For me, the frustrating thing about the season is injuries. Sure injuries happen and can be expected. However, losing key guys like Von, Hyde, Dawkins, etc...make it more difficult to win. Perhaps, Bills fans were fortunate not to experience serious injuries the last few seasons with the exception of Tre. 

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6 minutes ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

It would be cool if our media asked Dorsey real questions about player snap counts, formations and strategy.

 

Instead it’s talk about what having Josh Allen on your team means to you, and explain the process of facing the Jets the second time around. 

 

 

 

While I agree with this thought...if they ask those questions...we'll just get canned answers.  For the most part NFL coaches just get up in front of the mic because they have the obligation to do it.  Rarely do we ever get anything meaningful from a scheme/strategy standpoint (which I am fine with).

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Just now, Johnnycage46 said:

 

While I agree with this thought...if they ask those questions...we'll just get canned answers.  For the most part NFL coaches just get up in front of the mic because they have the obligation to do it.  Rarely do we ever get anything meaningful from a scheme/strategy standpoint (which I am fine with).

 

Belichick sounds like a robot during his press conferences. 

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1 hour ago, BillsFan130 said:

I hate Miami just as much as anyone else but How is Miami middle of the pack?.. Lol.

 

By W-L record you are correct.  By performance against better teams you are not.

 

Miami is not "obviously" better than the Titans, Ravens, Jets, Pats***, Chargers, Vikings, Packers, Giants, Commanders, Seahawks, or Bucs -- in addition to the six teams you listed.  That means they are in a "glut" of teams in the range from 7-18, which to me is "middle of the pack."

 

But to each his own.

 

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22 minutes ago, eball said:

 

By W-L record you are correct.  By performance against better teams you are not.

 

Miami is not "obviously" better than the Titans, Ravens, Jets, Pats***, Chargers, Vikings, Packers, Giants, Commanders, Seahawks, or Bucs -- in addition to the six teams you listed.  That means they are in a "glut" of teams in the range from 7-18, which to me is "middle of the pack."

 

But to each his own.

 

I would say Miami is quite better than all those teams minus the Ravens, Titans and maybe the Vikings

 

I still think they are better than all those teams you listed , but to link them in with the packers and some of those other teams you mentioned is a stretch IMHO

 

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6 minutes ago, Brianmoorman4jesus said:

I know it’s not really a big deal but are we ever going to wear red or AFL throwback this year? We are kind of running out of time here

 

White throwbacks vs Miami on Saturday night would be sweet. It's the only Bills home game left (per the Uniform Gridiron Database site) where neither team has posted anything. The Jets have already posted white jerseys with the pants as "TBA". The Patriots also posted white jerseys at Buffalo with the pants "TBA". The Bills are wearing either blue or red (BARF) for those games.

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18 hours ago, 2003Contenders said:

 

If they actually had a QB, this would not be so far-fetched.

 

How many times did we play that game during the drought?  "If you compare all our guys to all their guys, EXCEPT THE QUARTERBACK, we should win easily."

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35 minutes ago, BillsFan130 said:

I would say Miami is quite better than all those teams minus the Ravens, Titans and maybe the Vikings

 

I still think they are better than all those teams you listed , but to link them in with the packers and some of those other teams you mentioned is a stretch IMHO

 

 

We can agree to disagree, it's all good.  I think the Chargers will beat them this week, we'll beat them next week, and they'll suddenly be 8-6 with games against the Jets and Pats*** still to come.

 

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10 minutes ago, Greg S said:

 

White throwbacks vs Miami on Saturday night would be sweet. It's the only Bills home game left (per the Uniform Gridiron Database site) where neither team has posted anything. The Jets have already posted white jerseys with the pants as "TBA". The Patriots also posted white jerseys at Buffalo with the pants "TBA". The Bills are wearing either blue or red (BARF) for those games.

I’m not a big uniform guy but I’d love to see the Bills wear the 1960s style HOME uniforms once in a while, complete with helmets, jerseys/pants and socks. I love that old Jack Kemp look.

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1 minute ago, eball said:

 

We can agree to disagree, it's all good.  I think the Chargers will beat them this week, we'll beat them next week, and they'll suddenly be 8-6 with games against the Jets and Pats*** still to come.

 

 

I think there's a very good chance they finish 9-8.

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Just now, SoCal Deek said:

I’m not a big uniform guy but I’d love to see the Bills wear the 1960s style HOME uniforms once in a while, complete with helmets, jerseys/pants and socks. I love that old Jack Kemp look.

 

The blue throwbacks are nice as well. It's been years since they wore those.

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1 hour ago, newcam2012 said:

I really don't get this thought process. The margin for winning and losing games is pretty thin for most competitive teams. The Bills lost 3 games in a close fashion while playing pretty poorly, injury riddled, and other factors. However, the Bills won 2 games in dramatic fashion in the last seconds of those games. 

 

Point being, you could play woulda, coulda, and shoulda, every season. No better example than 13 seconds last year. Every season, I expect teams including Buffalo to win and lose games by the thinnest of margins. That's just football. For me, the frustrating thing about the season is injuries. Sure injuries happen and can be expected. However, losing key guys like Von, Hyde, Dawkins, etc...make it more difficult to win. Perhaps, Bills fans were fortunate not to experience serious injuries the last few seasons with the exception of Tre. 

I think that thought process is helpful if you are still in the season and trying to project how future games will go.

 

The Miami game was full of injuries and issues with the heat. Especially losing Morse in-game seemed to screw up the timing of everything on offense. We play Miami again much healthier, not in the heat, and Morse is back.

 

The Vikings game was a total fluke. The Bills outplayed them 90% of the game and then a bunch of crazy stuff happened. If we play that game the same way we win 99/100 times. The Vikings needed a fumbled snap in the end zone 3 yards away from victory formation for a TD in order to win. It isn’t predictive of anything.

 

The Jets game we played like garbage on offense. The Jets got pressure with 4 and have a solid secondary. If there is a game to point to for an example of how we might lose again it would be this game. Maybe not the Jets specifically because their offense is pretty bad. But say for example if the Bengals can get pressure with 4 and drop everyone else in coverage, they could knock off the Bills in a similar way.

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1 hour ago, Straight Hucklebuck said:

It would be cool if our media asked Dorsey real questions about player snap counts, formations and strategy.

 

Instead it’s talk about what having Josh Allen on your team means to you, and explain the process of facing the Jets the second time around. 

 

 

Yeah, it would be real “cool” to talk about our snap counts, formations and strategy.  Maybe they can post it on the portion of the dark web that only Bills Mafia can see.  
 

the less info our coaches and players talk about, the better.  

1 hour ago, eball said:

 

By W-L record you are correct.  By performance against better teams you are not.

 

Miami is not "obviously" better than the Titans, Ravens, Jets, Pats***, Chargers, Vikings, Packers, Giants, Commanders, Seahawks, or Bucs -- in addition to the six teams you listed.  That means they are in a "glut" of teams in the range from 7-18, which to me is "middle of the pack."

 

But to each his own.

 

I think you have too many teams in the “glut” and Miami is better than a middle of the pack team.  

54 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said:

He was signed yesterday after Stevenson released 

 Phillips might be out for a bit. 

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