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I’m kind of Over the Hines Experiment


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23 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

During the game, Nantz was talking about him having more yards than the offense, and Romo pointed out that kickoff returns keep the offense off the field, which contributed to their low numbers. I was just playing off of that comment.

 

Oh, got it. Still…This is akin to digging up JA rookie season threads doubting his abilities. No one could predict JA’s rise. No one else, and I mean no one thought for a hot second that Hines would return 2 kickoffs in a game. 

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2 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Oh, got it. Still…This is akin to digging up JA rookie season threads doubting his abilities. No one could predict JA’s rise. No one else, and I mean no one thought for a hot second that Hines would return 2 kickoffs in a game. 

 

I'm not the one who dug it up and I wasn't trying to pile on - I was just making a lighthearted joke based on some game-time dialog.

 

As for the bold, a lot of people predicted JA's rise, starting with Beane and McDermott. And quite a few posters here too.

 

 

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, WhoTom said:

 

I'm not the one who dug it up and I wasn't trying to pile on - I was just making a lighthearted joke based on some game-time dialog.

 

As for the bold, a lot of people predicted JA's rise, starting with Beane and McDermott. And quite a few posters here too.

 

 

 

 

 

I know you didn’t dig it up. I’m not fighting with ya, just sharing my thoughts. 
 

 

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45 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Not really pearl clutching. Even the slightest criticism is met with intense vitriolic responses. 
 

However, when this was posted, Hines was doing absolutely nothing and had a lot of people, outside this board, scratching their heads. 

Well, fwiw, imo, a lot of folk get quite impatient concerning personnel usage, I admit to going down that road on occasion,  on this board and to include the talking heads out there, we all know less of what is actually going on than we spout off about,  sure it gets frustrating at points, but it is no different on with other teams, after all, as much as we like football it is only a game, and in the grand scheme of things, not so important,  something that was out front and center not so many days ago…, 

 

GO BILLS!!!

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1 hour ago, Bandito said:

I agree. But when he was traded for most on here thought he'd be the man as an RB. Which I have been proven right about per usual-he is third string there

 

No one thought he'd replace Singletary as RB1, or even Cook as RB2. I seem to remember Beane or McDermott commenting that having him on returns frees someone else up to focus on receiving, not sure if it was Shakir or McKenzie.

57 minutes ago, Bandito said:

Thank you!!!! 100000000% Can't like this enough. 

 

What if I told you threads like this were intense vitriolic responses to personnel decisions by the Bills management and you are getting back what you are dishing out?

 

We gave the colts very little for Hines and vastly improved our return game even before today's game. It isn't a trade that needs to be criticized, and wasn't an "experiment" to replace our RBs.

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18 minutes ago, TBBills Fan said:

Considering what we gave up for Himes, we got a decent return even if he doesn't do anything else significant.  He certainly has a chance to impact every game at least with kick returns

I can kinda see where this is going so I’ll just say this to save myself….Hines is the best kick returner in the history of the NFL. The Bills are lucky to have him and he guarantees us a Lombardi Trophy. 
 

@Bandito sometimes you just gotta fall on the sword. Live to post another day. 

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31 minutes ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

I can kinda see where this is going so I’ll just say this to save myself….Hines is the best kick returner in the history of the NFL. The Bills are lucky to have him and he guarantees us a Lombardi Trophy. 
 

@Bandito sometimes you just gotta fall on the sword. Live to post another day. 

and sometimes not be that guy that says "I told you so" then expect a pin or a badge.

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2 hours ago, WhoTom said:

 

I'm not the one who dug it up and I wasn't trying to pile on - I was just making a lighthearted joke based on some game-time dialog.

 

As for the bold, a lot of people predicted JA's rise, starting with Beane and McDermott. And quite a few posters here too.

 

 

 

 

 

As did Chris Simms and a few other pundits. 

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2 hours ago, Freddie's Dead said:

This thread aged well.


The expectation when we got him was someone who was actually going to be a mismatch on offense. He’s been a good returner for us but our inability to actually use him on offense has been disappointing.
 

We heard all about how Hines can line up in the backfield, in the slot, yada yada yada.

 

I don’t blame Hines for not being used, I blame Dorsey. I don’t think he can consistently design an offense that can create mismatches or scheme guys open. 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Bangarang said:


The expectation when we got him was someone who was actually going to be a mismatch on offense. He’s been a good returner for us but our inability to actually use him on offense has been disappointing.
 

We heard all about how Hines can line up in the backfield, in the slot, yada yada yada.

 

I don’t blame Hines for not being used, I blame Dorsey. I don’t think he can consistently design an offense that can create mismatches or scheme guys open. 

 

 

Unfortunately, Beane and Co. have no ba11s and will hang onto Dorsey. Can’t wait. 

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I been telling people since we got him that he is fast and explosive.  Dorsey just doesnt know how to get people in this supposed complicated offense.  Perhaps its time that they get rid of this complicated offense and just do ***** that works like every other team does.  I keep seeing receivers in the same area all the time. Its stupid.

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1 hour ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Can’t imagine what will happen to this thread if Hines pulls a McKelvin. I hope it doesn’t happen but this is the Bills we’re talking about. 

Hines has already accomplished more in 1 game the McKelvin did in an entire career. Bye bye McKittrick. 

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1 hour ago, Bangarang said:


The expectation when we got him was someone who was actually going to be a mismatch on offense. He’s been a good returner for us but our inability to actually use him on offense has been disappointing.
 

We heard all about how Hines can line up in the backfield, in the slot, yada yada yada.

 

I don’t blame Hines for not being used, I blame Dorsey. I don’t think he can consistently design an offense that can create mismatches or scheme guys open. 

 

 

All true. 
 

Maybe we add some new plays for playoffs that get the ball to Hines?   Quick hitters that get the ball to him on the run.  

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1 hour ago, Bangarang said:


The expectation when we got him was someone who was actually going to be a mismatch on offense. He’s been a good returner for us but our inability to actually use him on offense has been disappointing.
 

We heard all about how Hines can line up in the backfield, in the slot, yada yada yada.

 

I don’t blame Hines for not being used, I blame Dorsey. I don’t think he can consistently design an offense that can create mismatches or scheme guys open. 

 

 

Actually my expectation when we traded for him is we now have a punt returner and kick returner Who is reliable 

 

And that he can be an emergency running back if cook or Singletary go down… with a couple change of pace touches 

 

Returning kicks and punts is the most dangerous job in the NFL… He needs to stay healthy and focused on that … 3-5 touches after is gravy 

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That opening kickoff TD skewed the time of possession in the Pats* favor, and put additional pressure on our defense. In addition, it delayed the offense from getting into rhythm. And then Hines had the audacity to do it again! 

Almost cost us the game. Bench Hines!

 

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GO BILLS!

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He solidified the return game immediately upon his arrival, so I’m grateful for that. But I’m really looking forward to him being used in the role they wanted McKissic and McCaffery for and that is as a receiving threat from the LOS lined up against safeties and LBs. He can be a matchup nightmare if used correctly by Dorsey.

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22 hours ago, Bandito said:

To think early on as you did Hines would improve the run game is hilarious. As a returner he has but not as a RB as he is 3rd string

Friend, Hines was specifically brought in to address our KO/PR issues.  Noone expected him to be the man at RB, or to unseat Singletary or Cook as our starting RBs.  

 

There's nothing wrong with eating a little crow now and then.  Hell I eat it all the time, and I find it you wash it down with a nice bottle of Chianti.....it can actually be quite satisfying! 

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6 hours ago, Bandito said:

To think early on as you did Hines would improve the run game is hilarious. As a returner he has but not as a RB as he is 3rd string

He is a pass catcher out of the backfield, wouldn't be surprised if they integrated him more in the playoffs. But no one who knew him thought he would be taking carries too help us. 

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4 hours ago, K-9 said:

He solidified the return game immediately upon his arrival, so I’m grateful for that. But I’m really looking forward to him being used in the role they wanted McKissic and McCaffery for and that is as a receiving threat from the LOS lined up against safeties and LBs. He can be a matchup nightmare if used correctly by Dorsey.

I don't care if he carries the ball even once in the playoffs. But not occassionally calling a wheel route or slant is wasting his speed & talent. Dorsey just has to figure out how to use him?

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11 hours ago, LABILLBACKER said:

Hines has already accomplished more in 1 game the McKelvin did in an entire career. Bye bye McKittrick. 

Look again... While McKelvin made his mistakes, he a few excellent years as a returner and a few as a solid to good CB.

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9 hours ago, ArtVandalay said:

He is a pass catcher out of the backfield, wouldn't be surprised if they integrated him more in the playoffs. But no one who knew him thought he would be taking carries too help us. 

Well this thread aged well.🤣

 

I don't get why he isn't incorporated more in the passing attack as he was catching 4/game with Indy.  This team needs some contributions catching the ball out of the backfield.

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1 hour ago, Billsfan1972 said:

Well this thread aged well.🤣

 

I don't get why he isn't incorporated more in the passing attack as he was catching 4/game with Indy.  This team needs some contributions catching the ball out of the backfield.

But then you'd need Josh to actually throw it to him.

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He's been a solid contributor to the return game ever since he arrived in Buffalo.  Setting aside yesterday's performance, if all he does is return kicks competently, that's fine with me.  We don't need another RB right now, but it's great to have somebody playing ST who I trust more than McKenzie.

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21 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Lol. No problem. But this will probably be my last post ever 😂 

 

I don't believe you ....

 

21 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

We are well aware

 

21 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Not really pearl clutching. Even the slightest criticism is met with intense vitriolic responses. 
 

However, when this was posted, Hines was doing absolutely nothing and had a lot of people, outside this board, scratching their heads. 

 

21 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Vince Young had a good game once. 

 

20 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Oh, got it. Still…This is akin to digging up JA rookie season threads doubting his abilities. No one could predict JA’s rise. No one else, and I mean no one thought for a hot second that Hines would return 2 kickoffs in a game. 

 

20 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

I know you didn’t dig it up. I’m not fighting with ya, just sharing my thoughts. 
 

 

 

19 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

I can kinda see where this is going so I’ll just say this to save myself….Hines is the best kick returner in the history of the NFL. The Bills are lucky to have him and he guarantees us a Lombardi Trophy. 
 

@Bandito sometimes you just gotta fall on the sword. Live to post another day. 

 

18 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

I don’t know what this means but I 100% agree. Nothing worse than that. 🤷‍♂️ 

 

18 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Can’t imagine what will happen to this thread if Hines pulls a McKelvin. I hope it doesn’t happen but this is the Bills we’re talking about. 

 

17 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Unfortunately, Beane and Co. have no ba11s and will hang onto Dorsey. Can’t wait. 

 

16 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Fumbled a kickoff return….or punt, can’t remember to lose us a game against the patriots 

 

16 hours ago, BIGFOOTspaceman said:

Hyperbole 

 

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