EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) We acquired Nyheim Hines two weeks ago and it was universally praised as a great addition to our team because of his experience and ability. Yet, here we are two games in and he has just TWO TOTAL TARGETS!!! Meanwhile, the 49ers acquire Christian McCaffery from the Panthers and he has made an IMMEDIATE impact. They actually *gulp* GET HIM TOUCHES AND UTILIZE HIM ON OFFENSE!!! I feel as if this is an utter failure by the Bills to take advantage of the skills of a player that they obviously coveted as Beane said in an interview that he had wanted him in Buffalo before. I do not know if it is McDermott or Dorsey, but someone has to answer for what I feel is a criminal underuse of a talent we so badly need. Two targets through two games is pathetic! Edited November 14, 2022 by EasternOHBillsFan 9 8 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 so we could give the illusion of DOING SOMETHING, DAMN IT!!!!! 3 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 And I have him on my fantasy team and had to start him today because of byes. FU Beane and Dorsey!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Cuz it was an upgrade over Moss 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, SinceThe70s said: Cuz it was an upgrade over Moss And if Singletary went down it was the moss show. Hines is a late season insurance policy and just another weapon you have to account for even if it's a few snaps. Not to mention bills have been uncommonly lucky with injuries at RB (knock on wood). Edited November 14, 2022 by Norcalbillsfan 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Same reason we signed a washed up Sanders to fill our need at WR last year. Beane has this thing where he likes a guy and will spend years trying to aquire him, even after it stops making sense. The trade for Hines is a big head scratcher. We don't run the ball. We are probably the worst screen team in the NFL. We have a very uncreative offense that will not take advantage of gadget guys like Hines. We just drafted Cook. And have Duke Johnson. We are obviously not paying Hines $5M next year. So we traded for a one year rental punt returner. We didn't give up much so whatever, but it was such an odd move. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 He's more of a weapon in the passing game, and only just got the play book last week and didn't have Josh to throw to him to get in sync in practice this week. 2 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 Just now, Norcalbillsfan said: And if Singletary went down it was the moss show. Hines is a late season insurance policy and just another weapon you have to account for even if it's a few snaps. One a game isn't going to cut it. Cook I get because he's a rook and he needs development, but ***** Hines has to be plug and play by now. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Dude Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: We acquired Nyheim Hines two weeks ago and it was universally praised as a great addition to our team because of his experience and ability. Yet, here we are two games in and he has just TWO TOTAL TARGETS!!! Meanwhile, the 49ers acquire Christian McCaffery from the Panthers and he has made an IMMEDIATE impact. They actually *gulp* GET HIM TOUCHES AND UTILIZE HIM ON OFFENSE!!! I feel as if this is an utter failure by the Bills to take advantage of the skills of a player that they obviously coveted as Beane said in an interview that he had wanted him in Buffalo before. I do not know if it is McDermott or Dorsey, but someone has to answer for what I feel is a criminal underuse of a talent we so badly need. Two targets through two games is pathetic! Beane traded for him on the cheap, could have traded for Gibson/Jacobs but did not want to take away starting role from Singletary. Two trades were essentially made to say he made some moves. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIGFOOTspaceman Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Billsy trade deadline trade. Bills do stupid and silly things. 🙃 it’s a sickness Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Warcodered said: He's more of a weapon in the passing game, and only just got the play book last week and didn't have Josh to throw to him to get in sync in practice this week. Fair point on the being in sync for sure, but he could get at least some work in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Not that I disagree with the main point but for the love of God can we stop putting CMC and Hines in the same conversation. I am sure if the Bills landed CMC they'd he getting him touches as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Bubba Gump said: And I have him on my fantasy team and had to start him today because of byes. FU Beane and Dorsey!!! Wasting this very good players skills is just another stupid decision by these knucklehead coaches. They're smart enough to acquire him yet terrified to believe in them. Hines over McK, Marlowe over Lewis, Shakir anytime?.....makes no sense. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billznut Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: We acquired Nyheim Hines two weeks ago and it was universally praised as a great addition to our team because of his experience and ability. Yet, here we are two games in and he has just TWO TOTAL TARGETS!!! Meanwhile, the 49ers acquire Christian McCaffery from the Panthers and he has made an IMMEDIATE impact. They actually *gulp* GET HIM TOUCHES AND UTILIZE HIM ON OFFENSE!!! I feel as if this is an utter failure by the Bills to take advantage of the skills of a player that they obviously coveted as Beane said in an interview that he had wanted him in Buffalo before. I do not know if it is McDermott or Dorsey, but someone has to answer for what I feel is a criminal underuse of a talent we so badly need. Two targets through two games is pathetic! Apparently our offense is highly difficult to learn. That’s why we are also waiting on Cook to make an impactful game. And this is straight from McD according to the broadcast today. They are waiting for him to completely learn the offense so they can trust him and have him more integrated into the offense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. WEO Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Because I'VE HEARD OF HIM!!! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CountDorkula Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Warcodered said: He's more of a weapon in the passing game, and only just got the play book last week and didn't have Josh to throw to him to get in sync in practice this week. I don’t buy this excuse. TJ Hockenson played 4 days after being traded and is a difference maker for Minnesota already. The Bills just don’t/won’t use Hines. It’s a bad trade. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, Billznut said: Apparently our offense is highly difficult to learn. That’s why we are also waiting on Cook to make an impactful game. And this is straight from McD according to the broadcast today. They are waiting for him to completely learn the offense so they can trust him and have him more integrated into the offense. I'd really like to hear why it's so difficult. It seems like Dorsey just says "everyone go deep" and then Allen runs around until he finds someone to throw to. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALLEN1QB Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Coaching staff has no clue. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, MPT said: I'd really like to hear why it's so difficult. It seems like Dorsey just says "everyone go deep" and then Allen runs around until he finds someone to throw to. Look at the replay of the last play. At least 3 guys all in the end zone running posts or a crosser. Absolutely embarrassing And enough of the shotgun runs - unless we’re ready to unleash Josh - which I feel like we’re going to have to do more of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Because this coaching staff slow plays everything, often to the detriment of the team. They slow play injuries, rookie playing time, obvious necessary roster changes, etc. It took them a whole season and a half of Zack Moss clumsily running into his lineman's butt before they recognized that he isn't a viable player. They've given Shakir very little playing time despite obviously being more dependable than McKenzie. Currently they're limiting Cook's snaps in favor of Singletary even though it has become obvious over the last two weeks that he gives our offense more juice. And yes the latest slow play is keeping Hines out of the offense, even though it is obvious that we need more speed out of our backfield. This is presumably because... they don't think he knows the playbook well enough yet? That's the only possible reason I can imagine, and personally I think it's stupid. Every other top offense has someone that can catch the ball 5 yards past the LOS and turn it into a 20+ yard gain. That element of our offense has never been a thing in the Josh Allen era, so Beane goes and gets that element and the coaches refuse to use him. Really frustrating. 5 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillMafia716ix Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 The trade never made sense too me. We don’t run the ball, and we already have cook and motor as pass catching backs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Maybe he's the new Chris Watson? That said, in order to him to have an impact as a punt catcher, the D actually has to force a few punts. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Please the people by doing something on trade deadline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Norcalbillsfan Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 17 minutes ago, EasternOHBillsFan said: One a game isn't going to cut it. Cook I get because he's a rook and he needs development, but ***** Hines has to be plug and play by now. I'm not sure why he wasn't more involved today, especially passing downs. But Josh refused to take check downs today so it probably wouldn't matter. But I definitely want to see some more handoffs to cook and Hines, we need that speed element to our run game. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 (edited) I think McD is phenomenal, but always thought the way this coaching staff utilize certain players is a weak spot. I remember when Mike Tolbert was given carries. They seem to fall in love with certain guys, while never giving certain younger players and acquisitions enough opportunities to prove themselves. Allen and Diggs hide the fact that we need more contributors, and the importance of putting the right guys on the field. Edited November 14, 2022 by SirAndrew 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 11 minutes ago, MPT said: I'd really like to hear why it's so difficult. It seems like Dorsey just says "everyone go deep" and then Allen runs around until he finds someone to throw to. Yeah I was watching a replay of that afterwards and there was a RB (not sure if it was Singletary or Cook) wide open after coming off a block but Josh never even looked at him. So Josh deserves some blame there. But all of his receivers were in the endzone and the routes they ran couldn't have possibly gotten them open. It's a recurring theme with Dorsey. The same thing happened on the 4th & 2 where we only needed 2 yards but all of the receivers ran to the endzone where it was picked off. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zow2 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Hines actually saved some yardage on punts today. He fielded a few short ones that could’ve bounced and really hurt field position. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
97bills Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 14 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Because this coaching staff slow plays everything, often to the detriment of the team. They slow play injuries, rookie playing time, obvious necessary roster changes, etc. It took them a whole season and a half of Zack Moss clumsily running into his lineman's butt before they recognized that he isn't a viable player. They've given Shakir very little playing time despite obviously being more dependable than McKenzie. Currently they're limiting Cook's snaps in favor of Singletary even though it has become obvious over the last two weeks that he gives our offense more juice. And yes the latest slow play is keeping Hines out of the offense, even though it is obvious that we need more speed out of our backfield. This is presumably because... they don't think he knows the playbook well enough yet? That's the only possible reason I can imagine, and personally I think it's stupid. Every other top offense has someone that can catch the ball 5 yards past the LOS and turn it into a 20+ yard gain. That element of our offense has never been a thing in the Josh Allen era, so Beane goes and gets that element and the coaches refuse to use him. Really frustrating. I hate to say it because I’m not that guy but” I’m starting to worry about McDermott being the guy to bring us a championship. 2 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EasternOHBillsFan Posted November 14, 2022 Author Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, 97bills said: I hate to say it because I’m not that guy but” I’m starting to worry about McDermott being the guy to bring us a championship. I'm not that guy either and today I don't think he was responsible for the loss, but yeah I am starting to get that feeling too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straight Hucklebuck Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 He isn’t very good. Thats what I don’t get. Our coaches and Beane talking about him playing the slot and he’s a moveable piece. He’s a niche running back. Just like McKissic, Yeldon, Breida, Duke Johnson. These guys aren’t good. But even so, I agree, you’d think they would try and have him carry the ball once. Its bizarre, but this team makes running the ball sound like theoretical math. They just can’t figure out how to get 3 yards and move to the next play. Tomorrow you’ll get the same gibberish from Dorsey about game flow and how they really want to run it when the chose to, and it’s all non sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 36 minutes ago, MPT said: Yeah I was watching a replay of that afterwards and there was a RB (not sure if it was Singletary or Cook) wide open after coming off a block but Josh never even looked at him. So Josh deserves some blame there. But all of his receivers were in the endzone and the routes they ran couldn't have possibly gotten them open. It's a recurring theme with Dorsey. The same thing happened on the 4th & 2 where we only needed 2 yards but all of the receivers ran to the endzone where it was picked off. The final play the 3 primary receivers all just ran to the endzone and actually they were all pretty close to each other. I think McK went short left to the 16 but was guarded. By the time Singletary released, Josh was already winding up for the endzone. Even if he does dump it off to motor, he probably barely makes it inside the 15. No one ran a mid field route to the 10. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPT Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 minute ago, LABILLBACKER said: The final play the 3 primary receivers all just ran to the endzone and actually they were all pretty close to each other. I think McK went short left to the 16 but was guarded. By the time Singletary released, Josh was already winding up for the endzone. Even if he does dump it off to motor, he probably barely makes it inside the 15. No one ran a mid field route to the 10. Easily would have made it past the 15 but might not have gotten the first down. It still would have been 3rd and short with over a minute left. But yes I agree that two of those receivers should have been running to the sticks instead of flooding the endzone with defenders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABILLBACKER Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 42 minutes ago, 97bills said: I hate to say it because I’m not that guy but” I’m starting to worry about McDermott being the guy to bring us a championship. Actually I started worrying way back in Houston. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 1 hour ago, SinceThe70s said: Cuz it was an upgrade over Moss Is a player who never plays better than Moss? 🤔 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 45 minutes ago, 97bills said: I hate to say it because I’m not that guy but” I’m starting to worry about McDermott being the guy to bring us a championship. Nonsense. Be that guy because the sentiment is growing. It'll be at a fever pitch if anything less than a Super Bowl appearance happens. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralonzo Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 He needs to be coached up on how to make it look like you're trying to win. but actually trying to lose </sarcasm> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFanForever19 Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Depth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SinceThe70s Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Nextmanup said: Is a player who never plays better than Moss? 🤔 100% possible. If nothing else it was addition by subtraction. Put another way, why do you think Nyheim isn't an upgrade over Moss? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 Punt catcher. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BananaB Posted November 14, 2022 Share Posted November 14, 2022 We traded for him to sit behind Duke Johnson. 😂 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.