Trubisky Watch!

[TheBrownBear]

Trubisky is horrible.  No thanks.  I prefer Keenum based on his career body of work.  And I agree with the poster who said Gardner Minshew.  The guy isn't good enough to build a team around, but he's proven to be a very capable NFL QB when given opportunities.  

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

45 minutes ago, chongli said:

I can remember a time when some people here were upset the Bills passed on drafting Trubisky.

 

Trubisky was drafted #2 overall - the Bills never had an opportunity to draft him. 

[chongli]

30 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Trubisky was drafted #2 overall - the Bills never had an opportunity to draft him. 

 

And of course, you are right. I stand corrected. 

[loyal2dagame]

2 hours ago, The Jokeman said:

The Giants will franchise Jones if they want to keep him.

I don't see the giants using the franchise tag in him.  It'll pay him too much. I think they sign him to a reasonable short term contract

[The Jokeman]

33 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said:

 

Trubisky was drafted #2 overall - the Bills never had an opportunity to draft him. 

The anger was for passing on Watson/Mahomes as I recall. I'm still baffled how much the Bears gave up to move up 1 spot for Trubisky

1 minute ago, loyal2dagame said:

I don't see the giants using the franchise tag in him.  It'll pay him too much. I think they sign him to a reasonable short term contract

The issue is that another team could go after him like the Panthers, Raiders, Colts or Texans could be in line for a new QB this offseason. 

[Buffalo_Stampede]

Trubisky watch sounds boring, I’ll pass.

[CircleTheWagons99]

2 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Tyrod is the best back up in the league now that Fitz retired.  I’d love to have him back. 

He will never be a Bill again since he never got a fair chance there.

[DabillsDaBillsDaBills]

9 minutes ago, The Jokeman said:

The anger was for passing on Watson/Mahomes as I recall. I'm still baffled how much the Bears gave up to move up 1 spot for Trubisky

The issue is that another team could go after him like the Panthers, Raiders, Colts or Texans could be in line for a new QB this offseason. 

 

At the time I think the general consensus was that the Bears were idiots for trading up. Why move from #3 to #2 for a QB that wasn't viewed as generational ? 

 

In hindsight.... holy cow. Has to be on a very short list of worst GM decisions ever. Trading UP for Trubisky when you could've stayed pat (or even moved down a few slots) and selected Mahomes or Watson

[Utah John]

3 hours ago, Malazan said:

Trubisky looks like a much better QB when you don't have to see him play. 

Mark Twain was touring Europe and attended a Richard Wagner opera.  Afterwards he was asked how he liked Wagner's music and he said it's a lot better than it sounds.  

 

Same concept about Trubisky.  

[Rocky Landing]

Interesting that we're having a heated debate about who the backup QB will be next year. Personally, I'm crossing my fingers for Davis Webb.

[BuffBillsForLife]

Keenum is better, imo.

 

I expect Allen to lobby hard to get his BFF Darnold here to be the backup next season.

[Don Otreply]

4 hours ago, DJB said:

I still believe Sam Darnold is going to end up here somehow 

I sure hope not, Sam might be a good guy, but he is not a professional QB by a long shot. 

[Florida Bills Fanatic]

Mitch was playing behind a pathetic o-line.  The result was easily predictable.  Pickett will be taking some significant hits and is likely to miss some games.  We'll see how bad the o-line is this week.

[Rc2catch]

Mitch and Darnold in a tables match next offseason. Winner gets the backup job to try and rebuild their value. 

6 minutes ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

Mitch was playing behind a pathetic o-line.  The result was easily predictable.  Pickett will be taking some significant hits and is likely to miss some games.  We'll see how bad the o-line is this week.

Mitch is never going to be a great quarterback. But he’s taking the heat from Pittsburgh and there’s much bigger issues there than just poor quarterback play over there. 

[davefan66]

4 hours ago, nucci said:

Minshew is a terrible QB. Don't want him on the Bills. What is intriguing about him?

Dude has a great attitude and has shown in limited action he can play.

 

Feel he has been in positions the other  guy was the guy, and hasn’t gotten the chance.

[Big Turk]

16 minutes ago, davefan66 said:

Dude has a great attitude and has shown in limited action he can play.

 

Feel he has been in positions the other  guy was the guy, and hasn’t gotten the chance.

 

Can't say I disagree...he has thrown for nearly 6K yards in 3 years and has a 93.9 QB Rating with 41 TDs and 12 INTs, which is much higher than most backup caliber QBs have when playing that much.

 

[BigAl2526]

He left because he was hoping to start elsewhere and get paid a starter's salary.  I'd be happy with him at some point if he becomes content with a backup role and salary.

[BullBuchanan]

4 hours ago, CNYfan said:

What I didn't understand is why he didn't threaten the field, let it fly long and down the seams.  He knew he was going to be benched for the tentative short yardage dumpoffs.  An interception reaches the same result, but you have to try.  One can't go with a whimper, air it ouit.

Because when you air it out and miss, you get pushed out of the league. If you protect the football, some coach will look at you and think you can be a backup or spot starter. See: Tyrod Taylor. He did the exact same thing when faced with the prospect of losing his job and he's turned it into a career that's much longer than it probably should be based on results.

[bigK14094]

5 hours ago, Royale with Cheese said:

Trubisky is a less athletic Tyrod Taylor.  

That had occured to me also actually.

I think Keenums contract is up after this year, so the bills will be in the market again for a backjup.  Mitch works for me for the right monehy.

[BuffaloBills1998]

5 hours ago, DJB said:

I still believe Sam Darnold is going to end up here somehow 

I doubt it. It’s either an extension for Keenum or it’s bringing back Mitch for 2-3 years

[Logic]

6 hours ago, DJB said:

I still believe Sam Darnold is going to end up here somehow 

This is a lead pipe lock.

He and Josh are best buds and he'll be entering the "I know I can't be a starter, I'm just happy to be employed as a backup" phase of his career next season. He has a good work ethic and enough athleticism, arm strength, and improv ability that the Bills wouldn't have to alter the playbook too significantly if he has to play a few games. I believe Beane and co scouted him and liked him fairly well in the 2018 draft and, in a world where Allen was not available and Darnold was still on the board, I believe the Bills may have taken him.

I expect Trubisky to try to compete to start again somewhere next year.

Edited October 6, 2022 by Logic

[BuffaloBills1998]

1 hour ago, Florida Bills Fanatic said:

Mitch was playing behind a pathetic o-line.  The result was easily predictable.  Pickett will be taking some significant hits and is likely to miss some games.  We'll see how bad the o-line is this week.

I think Pickett will be on a short leash against us. Reportedly Tomlin wanted to go back to Mitch for this weekend due to his familiarity of our system. 

[BullBuchanan]

1 minute ago, BuffaloBills1998 said:

I think Pickett will be on a short leash against us. Reportedly Tomlin wanted to go back to Mitch for this weekend due to his familiarity of our system. 

i couldn't think of a better way to destroy a potential franchise qb than to do that

[Starr Almighty]

4 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Tyrod put up similar numbers for entire seasons and there were people that thought he was a starter, I’ll assume you belong to that group.

Tyrod had 1 game in Buffalo for 300 yards. It also happens to be the only time he did it ever in his career.

[DCofNC]

37 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Tyrod had 1 game in Buffalo for 300 yards. It also happens to be the only time he did it ever in his career.

Who cares about 300 yard games?  Tyrod ran the Roman O, where LJ has only broke 300 yards one time, it’s not coincidence.  Geno has managed to not fall flat on his face for 2 games against 2 of the worst D’s in the NFL.  Beating the Lions is not an achievement. Putting up yards and still losing to the Flacons isn’t exciting either.  I suppose we should just ignore what little he did vs Denver and SF to satisfy saying he’s killing it. 

[ControllerOfPlanetX]

Next year…..is next year…

[Perk71]

40 minutes ago, ControllerOfPlanetX said:

Next year…..is next year…

Sounds about right...

 

Go Bills!!

[Starr Almighty]

1 hour ago, DCofNC said:

Who cares about 300 yard games?  Tyrod ran the Roman O, where LJ has only broke 300 yards one time, it’s not coincidence.  Geno has managed to not fall flat on his face for 2 games against 2 of the worst D’s in the NFL.  Beating the Lions is not an achievement. Putting up yards and still losing to the Flacons isn’t exciting either.  I suppose we should just ignore what little he did vs Denver and SF to satisfy saying he’s killing it. 

Geno sux but so does Tyrod. Tyrod has never stacked stats even against bad teams while on the Bills. Also I said he has 1 300 yard game in his entire career. 

 

Hint: It was not cause of Roman

[FilthyBeast]

Didn't Keenam sign a multi year deal?

 

If so can't imagine why we would get rid of him for Trubisky or anybody else. Also based on how Trubisky has fared in his 2nd (and likely last) stint as an NFL starter why on earth would you want him back in Buffalo as an option to start meaningful football games?

[Charles Romes]

I can’t believe how bad Trubisky has looked for Pittsburgh. He was never this bad in Chicago. 

[Low Positive]

42 minutes ago, Starr Almighty said:

Geno sux but so does Tyrod. Tyrod has never stacked stats even against bad teams while on the Bills. Also I said he has 1 300 yard game in his entire career. 

 

Hint: It was not cause of Roman

Journeyman QBs are always playing for their next contract. Remember how Rob Johnson would take terrible sacks because he refused to throw the ball away. It's because he understood that incompletions hurt his negotiating position more than sacks. Tyrod had a similar understanding about interceptions so he refused to take risks throwing the ball. As such, his numbers look good so he keeps getting contracts. Here are his Buffalo Stats (his only extended stint as a starter):

 

43 Starts/8857 Yards/51 TDs/16 INTs/62.6% 

 

If you are a QB starved team, that looks pretty good. But he was sacked 124 times. Again, low INTs and high(ish) completion percentages gets marginal QBs contracts. 

[Starr Almighty]

2 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Journeyman QBs are always playing for their next contract. Remember how Rob Johnson would take terrible sacks because he refused to throw the ball away. It's because he understood that incompletions hurt his negotiating position more than sacks. Tyrod had a similar understanding about interceptions so he refused to take risks throwing the ball. As such, his numbers look good so he keeps getting contracts. Here are his Buffalo Stats (his only extended stint as a starter):

 

43 Starts/8857 Yards/51 TDs/16 INTs/62.6% 

 

If you are a QB starved team, that looks pretty good. But he was sacked 124 times. Again, low INTs and high(ish) completion percentages gets marginal QBs contracts. 

So what you're saying is that he sux 🤣

Edited October 6, 2022 by Starr Almighty

[Low Positive]

Just now, Starr Almighty said:

So what you're saying is he sux 🤣

No, he's smart from a financial standpoint. He's made $63 million over his career playing it safe.

[DCofNC]

2 hours ago, Starr Almighty said:

Geno sux but so does Tyrod. Tyrod has never stacked stats even against bad teams while on the Bills. Also I said he has 1 300 yard game in his entire career. 

 

Hint: It was not cause of Roman

 

They are both back ups.  Tyrod was never a stat guy because the Bills ran the ball for 4 quarters when he was here, he had a number of games he could have gone over 300, probably should have, but if he had a choice not to throw he took it.. glad those days are over for Buffalo.

[RocCityRoller]

10 hours ago, DCofNC said:

Tyrod is the best back up in the league now that Fitz retired.  I’d love to have him back. 

I think Geno Smith and Brissett have made some good showings of themselves.

[DCofNC]

4 minutes ago, RocCityRoller said:

I think Geno Smith and Brissett have made some good showings of themselves.

I like Tyrod over them because he has great mobility, won’t turn the ball over and gives you a chance to win every game he plays IF the rest of the team does their job.  I don’t want him as a starter, make no mistake, but what he does is great as a back up.  
 

Brissett is a good player, I see him as a low end starter, he’s also relatively conservative, but has more physical tools than most.

 

Geno is similar to Tyrod without a proven history of success.  He’s been pretty miserable in any extended opportunities. 
 

Marriota is the guy I would kill to have as a back up, all the physical tools, too damn conservative, but again, good guy to have as a back up. 
 

Bortles makes the most sense to me as JAs back up, he’s basically “bad Josh”, which is to say 2018 Josh.  I am astonished to see him struggle to catch another opportunity in the league.

[Captain Hindsight]

7 hours ago, Rocky Landing said:

Interesting that we're having a heated debate about who the backup QB will be next year. Personally, I'm crossing my fingers for Davis Webb.

The Bills wanted to make Webb the QB coach this off-season. They aren’t going to sign him to be a QB

[Livinginthepast]

I still think back to that awful drubbing the Bills took at the hands of the Trubisky led Bears back in 2018, then I looked at the stats. Trubisky passed for 124 yards ! and his opposing QB ?  One Nathan Peterman!!! At that point I realized it wasnt Trubisky who was the cause of our downfall!

[Aussie Joe]

Bills only seem to want to pay so much for their backup QB... $2.75M to $3.5M has been the mark last two years.. and from memory Barkley was even cheaper before that...

 

Trubisky and Darnold may want more money to be the back up QB than what the Bills will pay.. particularly as they will both be seen now as back up QB's moving forward... 

 

Tyrod gets $5.5M a year as a comparison....

 

 

Edited October 7, 2022 by Aussie Joe

[ChronicAndKnuckles]

12 hours ago, DCofNC said:

No he hasn’t, he’s a game manager at best and he’s not much of anything when a play goes off script.  GeNo is a backup that is better than the other backups Seattle has, making him a starter by default. 

Lol @ “GeNo” 😅 haven’t heard that one. Touché