NewEra Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 56 minutes ago, mushypeaches said: I also wonder if maybe Devin Singletary is a trade candidate. Yes - he's #1 on the depth chart currently, but this is also his contract year, vs having 2 years left on Moss's contract I get it - Singletary is the better player, but if we're trading or releasing a RB, does remaining contract length also weigh into the decision? No chance imo. Not this year. We need the better player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I can’t see a world where Moss is the reason we win a game. I like draft picks. I like the upside of Blackshear. I think I’ve spoken the words “why the ***** is Moss in there right now?” more times than I’ve praised him, but I’m also not the smartest football mind, so I digress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 8 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: “I’m Zack Moss - I’m a millionaire!” Ko Simpson approves this message. Edited August 29, 2022 by Wayne Arnold 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 28 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I hope not - I would really like us to sign 3-time probowl 2 time all-pro punter Brett Kern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brett_Kern Just released by Tennessee in favor of a strong-legged rookie ......anyone else think Vrabel and Robinson put said rookie in a dark room with a spotlight on him and a lie detector hooked up and asked him a list of pointed questions first? Can he hold? Serious question. It’s more important to fill the vacant punter position with someone who won’t ***** up a FG or XP much more than we do for a guy who will punt from the 50 occasionally (that would have been Haack). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GETTOTHE50 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 trade him to seattle for their first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virgil Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I just don't see why we would do this. Motor is a FA after this year. Moss isn't making enough to claim cap relief. He's getting paid to be a rotational 1st/2nd down back. If we got rid of him, is Cook meant to take all those snaps? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CNYfan Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 OBD doesn't leak. No rumor exists 1 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beck Water Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 minute ago, stevestojan said: Can he hold? Serious question. It’s more important to fill the vacant punter position with someone who won’t ***** up a FG or XP much more than we do for a guy who will punt from the 50 occasionally (that would have been Haack). I'm sure he can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, stevestojan said: I can’t see a world where Moss is the reason we win a game. I like draft picks. I like the upside of Blackshear. I think I’ve spoken the words “why the ***** is Moss in there right now?” more times than I’ve praised him, but I’m also not the smartest football mind, so I digress. At his best, Moss is the prototypical "dime a dozen" running back. At his worst, he's "look like Tarzan, play like Jane". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Weird, I feel like I got a lot of flack when I suggested multiple times now through camp and preseason Bills could be showcasing Moss for a trade... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrownBear Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, Virgil said: I just don't see why we would do this. Motor is a FA after this year. Moss isn't making enough to claim cap relief. He's getting paid to be a rotational 1st/2nd down back. If we got rid of him, is Cook meant to take all those snaps? Pretty sure the thought is that Duke Johnson or Blackshear would fill his role. I think both of those guys would be fine as rotational backs, but that leaves the Bills without a tough, short yardage, "power" back, which is what they view Moss as. Moss was pretty decent in that role as a rookie, but failed pretty miserably last year in those situations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 There no way a team trades for him as long as he still has his spleen, and we all know it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scuba guy Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 41 minutes ago, Beck Water said: I believe that's a fan site roster predictions Gotcha 😊 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leh-nerd skin-erd Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Draconator said: Well this is interesting. Rumors of a ZacK Moss trade Happy now? As long as the c is silent in your version, no one should have a problem with it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
london_bills Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Moss to Washington maybe? Dont think beane would deal with wash again after mckissick. Edited August 29, 2022 by london_bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Airseven Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Also it should be noted it makes no sense for Bills to trade Moss. He adds a unique dimension to their backfield not otherwise found on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 35 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: Weird, I feel like I got a lot of flack when I suggested multiple times now through camp and preseason Bills could be showcasing Moss for a trade... So you went so far to prove your point by creating a twitter account using the name Pierre Kingpin? 😈 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I would love to see the Bills trade for OL Teven Jenkins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Wayne Arnold said: Cook may have the higher ceiling because he's bigger and faster. But there's more to being a running back than that. Blackshear is hungry, has great vision, plays with energy and has a chip on his shoulder. We'll see what happens. ok, but how much more hungry is he than Cook? How’s Cook’s vision? How’s Cook’s energy? Does Cook not have a chip, and if so, how heavy is it?? I need numbers bro. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cba fan Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 10 minutes ago, Airseven said: Also it should be noted it makes no sense for Bills to trade Moss. He adds a unique dimension to their backfield not otherwise found on the roster. Gilliam can be the short yardage back just as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HappyDays Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 4 1 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Unless there is a gm out there who had Moss super high on his draft board he really has no value. I’d rather keep him around than ship him away for some conditional 6th round pick. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 hour ago, boater said: Zack Moss (correct spelling), is cut material. Who would trade for him? Duke Johnson is cut material. If they trade Moss, Johnson stays, if they keep Moss then Johnson is cut. Johnson is not subject to waivers and likely would cost more. So those are reasons to go after Moss in a trade as gives you exclusive rights to a cheap contract. If this rumor is even a bit true and they did trade Moss, it kind of then says yes they'd keep Johnson, but like prior years, he's inactive almost every week barring injury to Cook or Singletary. Personally I'd have preferred to see Cook, Singletary, and Moss all active on Sundays as they do all bring a somewhat different strength to the team. But they've never done that in past years mainly IMO as when only able to dress 47 on Sundays, can't keep all three active plus Jones. Need to sit out one RB so then why keep all three if one is tradeable. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: I’m good with this. He’s better than Duke and blackshear and a late round pick won’t help us win a SB this year. Win. This. Year. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo_Stampede Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Great, we get to watch him run into lineman and defenders another year. 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brandon Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 minute ago, HappyDays said: Not interested in trading him or are they not interesting in trading him for what's being offered? I have a hard time believing they wouldn't consider moving a depth player if the right offer came along. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 54 minutes ago, Virgil said: I just don't see why we would do this. Motor is a FA after this year. Moss isn't making enough to claim cap relief. He's getting paid to be a rotational 1st/2nd down back. If we got rid of him, is Cook meant to take all those snaps? …not to mention, I don’t want to see us all of a sudden get thin at RB when somebody pulls a hammy or has a high ankle sprain. Every game counts for home field in the playoffs (it hurts to sound so cocky!), but I can see a scenario where it might look appealing. They have said they want to build for long term success. If they think they have the depth at RB, I’m sure they listen to offers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NewEra Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 minute ago, Ed_Formerly_of_Roch said: Duke Johnson is cut material. If they trade Moss, Johnson stays, if they keep Moss then Johnson is cut. Johnson is not subject to waivers and likely would cost more. So those are reasons to go after Moss in a trade as gives you exclusive rights to a cheap contract. If this rumor is even a bit true and they did trade Moss, it kind of then says yes they'd keep Johnson, but like prior years, he's inactive almost every week barring injury to Cook or Singletary. Personally I'd have preferred to see Cook, Singletary, and Moss all active on Sundays as they do all bring a somewhat different strength to the team. But they've never done that in past years mainly IMO as when only able to dress 47 on Sundays, can't keep all three active plus Jones. Need to sit out one RB so then why keep all three if one is tradeable. I feel the same. I think there’s a chance, vs certain teams, we have the 3 active. Definitely seems like there will be an increased emphasis on being more successful in the run game. Could happen from time to time but I wouldn’t expect it weekly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 19 minutes ago, BTB said: So you went so far to prove your point by creating a twitter account using the name Pierre Kingpin? 😈 There have been twitter rumblings since Friday of a possible Moss trade...but no one noticed because of Matt Araiza Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wayne Arnold Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, Tom Donahoe, GM said: ok, but how much more hungry is he than Cook? How’s Cook’s vision? How’s Cook’s energy? Does Cook not have a chip, and if so, how heavy is it?? I need numbers bro. Sorry Tom, I don't give up secrets to former GM's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Personally, I think Beanes position on Moss is that he wont trade him unless he gets a strong offer. I think it would take a 4th rounder to get Beane to start thinking about it. Moss has more value than a low round pick to us in a Super Bowl run, so I don't think there is any chance he gets moved on the cheap. I think the odds of him getting traded are low just because I am not sold anyone would offer him what it would take to peak Beanes interest. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: There have been twitter rumblings since Friday of a possible Moss trade...but no one noticed because of Matt Araiza well if it is on Twitter 🤣 🤣 🤣 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaw66 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Brandon said: Not interested in trading him or are they not interesting in trading him for what's being offered? I have a hard time believing they wouldn't consider moving a depth player if the right offer came along. Obviously, they'll trade anyone at the right price, but I think what this says is that the Bills have a plan for their running game, and Moss is part of the plan. They may be deep at running back, but that doesn't mean that all running backs are trade bait. The guys who are on the block, if any, are surplus, not guys who are part of the core plan. Moss isn't a true power back, but he's the best the Bills have; Singletary is a pretty distant second, and none of the others fits that mold at all. Gilliam isn't a true running back. Moss may be the least likely guy to get traded. 8 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: There have been twitter rumblings since Friday of a possible Moss trade...but no one noticed because of Matt Araiza I'm not on twitter and wouldn't know how to find these rumblings. Can you link to any of them? I hadn't heard anything, but probably for the reason you say. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsbackto81 Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Buffalo_Stampede said: Good. Singletary should never come off the field for Zack Moss. 2 hours ago, ddaryl said: I will say I thought Duke Johnson looked real good against the Pathers when no other Bills RB playing in the game did He appears to have good vision that being said, I'm not convinced the Bils are looking to trade Moss, but it could happen. If the return was acceptable I'd have no problem trading Moss and keeping Duke Johnson. He's been solid and he's healthy and motivated now playing on a SB contender. Motor/ Cook and Johnson with JA17 sprinkled in is a pretty nice combo IMO. Miami will scoop Johnson up the moment he's cut. I expect it because they cut Michel today and their fans were pretty upset he wasn't retained. Plus he'll have Buffalo Intel going in a la Belicheck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LabattBlue Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 23 minutes ago, HappyDays said: Your move Pierre! 😂 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BullBuchanan Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 I'm not much of a fan of our RB room. I think it's solid, but I'd prefer some more elite skills - hopefully Cook brings that. That said, there's no upside in trading Moss unless they would be replacing him with someone better - and I'm not sure who that player would be. It isn't Blackshear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterStrategist Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 1 hour ago, Alphadawg7 said: Weird, I feel like I got a lot of flack when I suggested multiple times now through camp and preseason Bills could be showcasing Moss for a trade... Random rumor, if this was substantiated by a reliable source...then sure. Otherwise, it's foolish to trade our best goalline/short yardage/pass protecting back. Motor deservedly is RB1, but he needs spelled, and heaven forbid an injury.... Couple that with Motors last yr under contract, and we at least have a future option if Motor prices himself out of our future plans at RB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 2 hours ago, Beck Water said: Link, please? Yes please..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freddie's Dead Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 Making room for BaaBaaBlackshear. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwai San Posted August 29, 2022 Share Posted August 29, 2022 15 minutes ago, BullBuchanan said: I'm not much of a fan of our RB room. I think it's solid, but I'd prefer some more elite skills - hopefully Cook brings that. That said, there's no upside in trading Moss unless they would be replacing him with someone better - and I'm not sure who that player would be. It isn't Blackshear. WOW dude.....OK who is your preferred RB group? What team do u root for? Aside from when The Thurminator was running the rock this is about as good as it gets for the Bills....IMHO. ya sure Henry would be great....but they ain't getting that anytime soon.....elaborate please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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