Beast Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Mij yllek said: so much for innocent until proven guilty Well then, I wonder what the other 31 NFL teams feel about innocent until proven guilty? Who do you think will sign Araiza? Here's a clue....don't hold your breath waiting. The Buffalo Bills did the absolute right thing here. 6 8 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Not able to watch/listen, but if things came to light that Araiza didn’t disclose to them that put the organization in this situation then it is in the organization’s best interest, regardless of his guilt or innocence of what he’s accused of, to move on. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoloinOhio Posted August 28, 2022 Author Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rc2catch Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 They’ve already been more forthcoming than I expected. But at least they can get back to work tomorrow now 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 4 minutes ago, Roundybout said: A full investigation will take months and would have massive negative implications on a team that has a super bowl shot. Yep exactly. Literally would have been a dark cloud media storm over a punter... The bills did the right thing IMO. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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aceman_16 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, stevestojan said: sorry for shouting but you’re the 400th person to use this asinine argument: DUE PROCESS AND “INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY” DO NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE EMPLOYERS. THIS IS NOT A COURT OF LAW. As soon as someone says "sorry but...." they aren't sorry. Edited August 28, 2022 by aceman_16 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, mannc said: It sucks for Araiza, and it's totally unfair, but it's probably the right thing for the Bills. How do you know it is unfair? Losing his job may just be the start. He might be in jail if he led that girl to get gang raped. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ColoradoBills Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 34 minutes ago, Draconator said: Slacker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAJBobby Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Well that ends that. Obviously Bills were not comfortable with the facts of this situation and moved on. No issue from me 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, stevestojan said: sorry for shouting but you’re the 400th person to use this asinine argument: DUE PROCESS AND “INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY” DO NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE EMPLOYERS. THIS IS NOT A COURT OF LAW. My company is publicly traded they essentially tell you if you get a DUI or go bankrupr without telling them you will be fired. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Vader Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Hey @jkirchofer, this is what you wanted right!? You going to give Beane & McDermott credit for this?! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Now, some soon -to- be released punter from another team has a possible job waiting for him. Barkley did surprisingly well last night but I doubt he gets the job permanently! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tanoros Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 The way the team played last night seemed to be an indication of this whole thing impacting on the field play. Our o-line was no help, but the team didn’t seem to have the same mojo as the first two games. 2 1 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, stevestojan said: sorry for shouting but you’re the 400th person to use this asinine argument: DUE PROCESS AND “INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY” DO NOT APPLY TO PRIVATE EMPLOYERS. THIS IS NOT A COURT OF LAW. That and "they ruined his life/career". They chose to not have him on the team, in due course if he proves his innocence he can try out for any team he wants. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevestojan Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) 4 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said: My company is publicly traded they essentially tell you if you get a DUI or go bankrupr without telling them you will be fired. My company is also publicly traded. Same. Could you imagine getting fired from your company and shouting “what about innocent until proven guilty?!?!.” The laughter from HR would be raucous. Edited August 28, 2022 by stevestojan 2 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Think any reasonable person would agree this was the right move for the Bills. Obviously hope the allegations aren’t true considering how horrific they are but this isn’t something the Bills can mess around with and the fact that he’s a rookie punter makes it even easier to just wipe your hands clean and move on. 3 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miyagi-Do Karate Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 3 minutes ago, YoloinOhio said: This is really the bottom line. Even if they had known about this as simply an accusation in April, he would have been off their board. That is frankly why it is so easy to root for this team. We don’t have to be like chiefs fans and try to weakly justify all the terrible misconduct by our players. The Bills want a team of high character guys, and it means passing on guys where there are even question marks. 8 3 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay_Fixit Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 (edited) Good thing he’s a punter so another one off the street can easily fill in. Punters. lol. Edited August 28, 2022 by Jay_Fixit 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simon Says Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mij yllek said: so much for innocent until proven guilty Not applicable...the Bills aren't a courtroom and don't have to make a legal decision. Obviously they don't want to to play under the cloud and distraction of an investigation that could go on for months. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mannc Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 2 minutes ago, Ethan in Portland said: How do you know it is unfair? Losing his job may just be the start. He might be in jail if he led that girl to get gang raped. That's true...but at this point, nothing has been proven and in fact he hasn't really even had a chance to respond. So at this point, you could easily argue that it's unfair to him. 1 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Tim Graham not having any of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Victory Formation Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Good riddance. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 On Bills website: Sean McDermott: "It Is a Situation That Is Extremely Serious" https://www.buffalobills.com/video/sean-mcdermott-it-is-a-situation-that-is-extremely-serious Video has issue: Fumble! Looks like there was a problem with the video. Case Keenum: "Still Processing A Lot Of It" Bills quarterback, Case Keenum addressed the media and the situation surrounding Matt Araiza following the Bills' 21-0 loss to the Carolina Panthers in the preseason. https://www.buffalobills.com/video/case-keenum-still-processing-a-lot-of-it Matt Barkley: "There's A Lot To Work Through" Bills quarterback, Matt Barkley addressed the media and the situation surrounding Matt Araiza following the Bills' 21-0 loss to the Carolina Panthers in the preseason. https://www.buffalobills.com/video/matt-barkley-there-s-a-lot-to-work-through Tim Graham is the Athletic's version of Sullivan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pigpen65 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Quote They could have avoided a ***** load of terrible PR by doing it immediately but ok, at least they are more level headed then a good bunch of folks here. Having said that we still deserve answers wtf they were thinking letting him make the team with what they knew several weeks before. Such a horrible look. Entire thing is just complete disappointing. 3 2 3 2 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Maybe Cleveland will pick him up. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shake_My_Head Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Tim Graham not having any of this. Is that supposed to matter? 6 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsFan130 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said: This is really the bottom line. Even if they had known about this as simply an accusation in April, he would have been off their board. That is frankly why it is so easy to root for this team. We don’t have to be like chiefs fans and try to weakly justify all the terrible misconduct by our players. The Bills want a team of high character guys, and it means passing on guys where there are even question marks. True to a certain degree. But It is a little strange the bills knew about about this in late July apparently, but still went with him over Haack. That is the strange part to me. 1 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, pigpen65 said: They could have avoided a ***** load of terrible PR by doing it immediately but ok, at least they are more level headed then a good bunch of folks here. Having said that we still deserve answers wtf they were thinking letting him make the team with what they knew several weeks before. Such a horrible look. Entire thing is just complete disappointing. They didn't know what we are all reacting to now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, PromoTheRobot said: Tim Graham not having any of this. Of course not. He is trying to stir press conference. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generic_Bills_Fan Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 16 minutes ago, Airseven said: Is all this silly hype and anticipation simply about Araiza getting released? When he does, then what? Hugs? What exactly are people craving to hear? Hopefully they address the initial 53, some of the injury decisions, and fringe roster competition. It was really hanging over the head of the season imo….some things are bigger than football and it wouldve been hard to root for a team that was going to bat for someone in araizas position 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PromoTheRobot Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, Shake_My_Head said: Is that supposed to matter? To Tim. He's looking for a weakness. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Grundy Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Great headline, "Oh Punt God, you Devil" 😎 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 I am removing the bag now 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damj Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Good. The right move. Time to move on 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubba Gump Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 1 minute ago, YoloinOhio said: Such an idiot. Ruined the rest of his life. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aceman_16 Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 Just now, HOUSE said: I am removing the bag now Nah....keep it on. Suits ya better and saves our eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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78thealltimegreat Posted August 28, 2022 Share Posted August 28, 2022 It was the only thing Beane could do. Matt this week is probably going to be speaking with a defense attorney they didn’t need this hanging over their heads. If he truly didn’t do this he’ll get the chance at discovery in a court case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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