BigDingus Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 So I saw this question on Twitter & thought I'd ask it here just for fun. What 3 players from 2000-2017 era of no playoffs would you guys choose to replace a current roster member with? Also, which specific known starters would you replace with them? ********** 1. Takeo Spikes, LB - He normally played ILB, but I'd replace Milano as I'd prefer to see him & Edmunds on the field together. But if it came down to it, I'd take him over Edmunds too. 2. Ruben Brown, LG - He sometimes was called "overrated" by fans, but the guy made 8x Pro Bowls & 4x 2nd team All Pro on the Bills. He made the playoffs, but he played for us until signing with the Bears in 2004. I'd replace Ryan Bates & hope Saffold can play RG 😁 3. Marshawn Lynch, RB - There's a lot of good picks for RB, but I think having a really powerful, hard to tackle back that can get those tough yards would be best. I know the conventional wisdom would suggest someone good at catching the ball & be a dual receiving threat, but I think Lynch would kill it in this setup. The field is so spread out, he'd have a field day, and Josh would be the additional running threat if plays break down. Plus, there are just those short yardage situations you'd prefer to have Lynch over a QB sneak or a more shifty guy like Shady. ********** Anyway, I really wanted to put Kyle Williams on the list, or an underrated guy like Terrance McGee who was a strong CB & ST guy (CB in particular has some nice candidates), but these are the 3 I'd love to take most. 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slippery Rubber Mats Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Prime Terrell Owens Prime Fred Jackson Brian Moorman 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MPL Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) I'd probably go all defense and say: London Fletcher - replace Edmunds or Milano Aaron Schobel - replace Epenesa or Basham Nate Clements - Put him across from White while Elam learns Larry Centers could be interesting... he caught 80 passes in 2001 as a FB! Edited June 3, 2022 by MPL 4 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Mario Williams for Rousseau Dareus for whoever's playing next to Oliver Jason Peters for Brown 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
julian Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Mario Williams Jason peters Lee Evans 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dma0034 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Kyle Williams Takeo Spikes Jason Peters 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Smith Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Spikes Winfield Peters 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfanmiamioh Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Id add Terence McGee to a couple already brought up since he could return kicks as well. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Mario Williams, Takeo Spikes, and Nate Clements. We would have an all time great defense. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, dma0034 said: Kyle Williams Takeo Spikes Jason Peters Cant believe I had to read so far down before someone said Kyle Williams 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aristocrat Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Robert woods, Gilmore and Marshawn 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Kyle Orton as our backup QB. Stevie Johnson in front of everyone else after Diggs and Davis at WR. Clements at CB 2 just bc of the Brady hit. 🤷♂️ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 7 minutes ago, John from Riverside said: Cant believe I had to read so far down before someone said Kyle Williams Some say he is not a draught era player for he made the playoffs. Make Mine Moorman! Brian Moorman, P - better than every punter in camp including the god and he made other special plays besides punting. Ruben Brown, LG - he continued playing well in Chicago. Eric Wood, C - better than any center last few years. Can I choose a coach? Rusty Jones, damn best conditioning coach in the league. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phypon Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, NoHuddleKelly12 said: Kyle Orton as our backup QB. Stevie Johnson in front of everyone else after Diggs and Davis at WR. Clements at CB 2 just bc of the Brady hit. 🤷♂️ I think you mean "just bc Nate Clements hit on Brady". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Htt2821 Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Jason Peters (slide Dawkins to G or RT) Mario Williams (pair up with Miller) Lynch (Beastmode) 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 55 minutes ago, GoBills808 said: Mario Williams for Rousseau Dareus for whoever's playing next to Oliver Jason Peters for Brown This is the right answer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 This is a good question to entertain us when not much is going on. Narrowing it down to three is hard. Gilmore. It's a passing league and we have one premier - but hurt - CB. Giving him a partner would make this defense incredibly stout. Schobel. It would be a shame to take away snaps from the youngsters but I'm not yet confident any of them will be a good bookend for Miller. Jackson. Freddy could block, catch and run. It kills me not to include Kyle. I'm in the camp that thought Ruben Brown was overrated but I'd love to have him now. I'd love Jason Peters even more. Eric Moulds would thrive - if he stayed healthy - in this offense. Beast Mode would be interesting because it would put defenses in a quandary: how do you stop a team that can throw it anywhere on the field but also has a power running game? I'm not sure about the LBs mentioned because we now play a 4-2 Nickel that's designed to stop the pass. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allen2D̶i̶g̶g̶s̶TBD Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Josh Allen to Lee Evans would be absolutely unfair for opposing defenses. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenMac Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Eric Moulds Fred Jackson Ruben Brown 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted June 3, 2022 Author Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Limeaid said: Some say he is not a draught era player for he made the playoffs. Make Mine Moorman! Brian Moorman, P - better than every punter in camp including the god and he made other special plays besides punting. Ruben Brown, LG - he continued playing well in Chicago. Eric Wood, C - better than any center last few years. Can I choose a coach? Rusty Jones, damn best conditioning coach in the league. Rusty Jones, now that's a cool choice! Totally forgot about him. Remember Marv talking highly of him, but don't remember much else honestly. And even though some of these guys made the playoffs at some point, I'd include anyone who was stuck on those Bills teams at any point during the drought. Very few guys started & finished their careers in Buffalo during that point, Kyle Williams & Aaron Schobel being the most noteworthy & relevant (I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando Tim Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Jason Peters and Reuben Brown would make an offense with no question marks for me, and I think a DB just for depth. Moulds should not be on the drought list seeing as he has the most receiving yards in a playoff game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njbuff Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Eric Moulds. Terrance McGee, starting opposite Tre and being a lethal KR. Pat Williams in the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobobonators Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Not based on which player was strictly the best but also based on overall impact to current roster/team: 1. London Fletcher 2. Marshawn Lynch 3. Ruben Brown 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 1 minute ago, BigDingus said: Rusty Jones, now that's a cool choice! Totally forgot about him. Remember Marv talking highly of him, but don't remember much else honestly. Good article on Rusty Jones I bookmarked for him after he was lured out of retirement. https://www.colts.com/news/i-m-the-most-blessed-guy-alive He was the one who reshaped Bruce Smith (Bruce says so himself). He was the one who made K-Gun possible keeping team in shape to run it. His program is what kept Bills on average with low injury rate. When a new head coach came in he was promoted upstairs so head coach could bring in his own strength and conditioning coach. He hated it. Ruben Brown left the Bills in a huff to Bears after reportedly attacking coach in meeting. When he got there he told them about Bills' spinach and they hired him as strength and conditioning coach. Bears had injury issues before and then they went down. https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-2007-02-01-0702010327-story.html Quote Nutrition advice has made such an impact on players that Brian Urlacher says, "If Rusty tells me to eat dirt, I'll eat dirt." 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill from NYC Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 1) Jason Peters (by a rather big margin) 2) Mario Williams 3) Aaron Schobel Edited June 3, 2022 by Bill from NYC 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wppete Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Fitzpatrick Stevie Johnson Fred Jackson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Fred Jackson Eric Moulds Mario Williams 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BattlinBill Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Lynch Peters Williams Honorable Mention: Moulds (sorry, couldn't do just three) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msw2112 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Spikes, Peters, Evans - honorable mention to Freddy Jackson. As mentioned above, Allen to Evans (in his prime) would be one hell of a combination. I loved watching Evans catch bombs from JP Losman, and Allen > Losman, at least a little bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrimeTime101 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 *TO **Jackson ***Darius *TO even at the age we had him on this WR team would give defenses nightmares. **Fred Jackson MR. "You aint getting me for 3-yard losses" ***Someone tell me how the HECK they double team Oliver, Darius, Miller on that line. Would be the best line hands down. Special mention... Gilmore, Lynch. Why Fred Over Lynch you ask? Fred was DEPENDABLE... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HereComesTheReignAgain Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Eric Moulds Eric Moulds Eric Moulds this offense would be insane with the addition of Moulds. 3 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Good topic 1. Jason Peters 2. Reuben Brown 3. Aaron Schobel It was painful to leave off Spikes and Winfield. But I prioritized pass rush and the OL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rigotz Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Insane to see so many people picking Freddy Jackson and Marshawn Lynch over impact players at valuable positions. CB: Gilmore, Winfield, Clements, McGee LB: Fletcher, Spikes DE: Mario, Schoebel LT/RT: Jason Peters WR: Moulds, Evans, TO Good lord, pick any of those over a running back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 James Hardy JP Losman Mike Williams 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nextmanup Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 hour ago, Bill from NYC said: 1) Jason Peters (by a rather big margin) 2) Mario Williams 3) Aaron Schobel I was going to say that Peters is--by far--the best Bill to play during the draught era. So he would be my first choice. then maybe peak Mario Williams or peak Marshawn Lynch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 3 hours ago, KenMac said: Eric Moulds Fred Jackson Ruben Brown So I’m on the fence on Moulds. He’s on my list. But he made the playoffs his first 3 years. But was apart of the first 6 of the drought. If Moulds is allowed I probably go Marshawn Lynch Mario Williams Eric Moulds Otherwise probably Peters or motivated Dareus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhode Island Red Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 10 minutes ago, Rigotz said: Insane to see so many people picking Freddy Jackson and Marshawn Lynch over impact players at valuable positions. CB: Gilmore, Winfield, Clements, McGee LB: Fletcher, Spikes DE: Mario, Schoebel LT/RT: Jason Peters WR: Moulds, Evans, TO Good lord, pick any of those over a running back. NFW. Those are all really good players, and important cogs for us. Take your pick of any two and pair them with Fred Jackson. Incomparable ability to get what was needed, do what was needed, fire up the whole team… totally love Freddy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimBob2232 Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) Gosh. So many different directions to go. Best positional fit based on what we have? Most loved players? Players you would just love to see enjoy this time? The Best players? Im going to go with: Takeo Spikes Bryce Paup Jarius Byrd Im assuming Pat Williams and Antoine Winfield arent considered drought either. Edited June 4, 2022 by JimBob2232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mango Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 1 minute ago, Nextmanup said: I was going to say that Peters is--by far--the best Bill to play during the draught era. So he would be my first choice. then maybe peak Mario Williams or peak Marshawn Lynch. I don’t think there is much argument there. But I think there’s a world where the level of improvement for the entire roster is better with Williams > Rousseau or Lynch > Singletary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
without a drought Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 If they played in the playoffs with the Bills, it's hard to consider them drought era Bills. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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