Mr. WEO Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 11 minutes ago, Augie said: The “Toronto Bills” would make about as much sense as the Utah Jazz. Sure, that made sense in New Orleans, but Salt Lake City is one of the last places I would ever think of when jazz comes up. If the Miami Hurricanes moved to Minneapolis, or the Phoenix Suns moved to Buffalo……. Did nobody think to come up with a new name? 🤷♂️ Did "Buffalo Bills" ever make sense? It was picked in an essay contest Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xwnyer Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 (edited) Well trump did congratulate the great state of Kansas for the KC SB win Edited March 29, 2022 by Xwnyer 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Let's Go Buffalo Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 I think some already may have alluded to this, but my guess is that if they did move the stadium, it would still be in Kansas City, just in the Kansas portion of Kansas City, and not the Missouri side like it is currently.....The Chiefs and Royals are both located just barely across the State Line, the way it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punching Bag Posted March 29, 2022 Share Posted March 29, 2022 45 minutes ago, WotAGuy said: Reminds me of the 70s and 80s when you had to go to Fort Erie to get the good beer and strip joints. Border Guard: “Bringing anything into the States?” Me: “Just a case of Brador!” Border Guard: “👍” Beer, gas and Chinese food. There was guy from one of the fraternities who would go around in dorm asking "Who wants free Chinese food?" Guys would put up their hands. Next who has a valid ID showing old enough to buy beer? If you do show them. Hands would go up and he would pick 5 guys and my observation more "skill" types than "beef". We would drive to border and before border guard he would say "No funny stuff or you walk back." IDs would be asked and everyone would show and we went into to beer store where he loaded it up with 12 cases of beer. We would go to this Chinese takeout place and he would order food. You could say what you wanted within limits. He would go to gas station, fill up tank, and return to border. At gate US border guard would ask "What were you in Canada for?" We got into a pattern and would reply "Beer, gas and Chinese food." in unison. Sometimes guard would ask for IDs. Once guard asked "Go to strip clubs?" and a guy said "Maybe we can next time rather than Chinese food." It was a pattern for me most of my 1st semester in college once a week. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, MJS said: There aren't two. It's the same city, but since it is on the boarder, the city has portions on both sides. 3 hours ago, WotAGuy said: So, Kansas City is one entity and the state line has no effect? That seems odd. Otherwise, they are in fact two separate cities with independent municipal and state governments. Upon reading further, it seems the two entities combine to form the “Kansas City metropolitan area”. So in that sense, they are one entity. Interesting! AFAIK, they are two different cities with two different mayors, just like Niagara Falls, NY, and Niagara Falls, Ontario. Both KC's are in the same metropolitan area. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo716 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 6 minutes ago, chongli said: AFAIK, they are two different cities with two different mayors, just like Niagara Falls, NY, and Niagara Falls, Ontario. Both KC's are in the same metropolitan area. Yea but those are 2 different countries These are atleast boundary states Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharky7337 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 hours ago, WotAGuy said: This brings up a question - why the hell are there two Kansas Citys? Makes no sense. Why isn’t the town on the Mizzou side called Missouri City? Every state near the territory had a Kansas in it at one point. Arrrrrrrkansas just went full pirate to hide it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RiotAct Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, Momma Pecoraro said: Free-Soil or bust! Tippecanoe and Tyler Too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JakeFrommStateFarm Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, MJS said: There aren't two. It's the same city, but since it is on the boarder, the city has portions on both sides. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Noggin Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Augie said: The “Toronto Bills” would make about as much sense as the Utah Jazz. Sure, that made sense in New Orleans, but Salt Lake City is one of the last places I would ever think of when jazz comes up. If the Miami Hurricanes moved to Minneapolis, or the Phoenix Suns moved to Buffalo……. Did nobody think to come up with a new name? 🤷♂️ In many ways, the Bills should probably be the Bisons. Outside of Berman's "nobody circles the wagons" refrain, no one is thinking about "Buffalo" Bill Cody and his iconic status in the execution and romanticization of the U.S.'s fraught history of Westward expansion/colonization. We're mostly thinking about stampeding herds of bison, obscured visibly by nostril jets of vapor on a wintry plain and audibly by the seismic rumble of their unstoppable advance. (Ironically, eventually stopped by the likes of Cody and those he inspired.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djp14150 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 5 hours ago, Just Jack said: Just words at the moment... Chiefs Fans Are Furious About The Stadium Speculation i have lived in the KC area KC is on the Missouri/ Kansas border. There is a KC, .mso and a KC, KS. The Missouri River is the boundary when it gives north/ south. In dientoennKC it turns east/west so south of this turn the border is a state line. I-70 crosses east west and the main beltway loop surrounds the city. on the Missouri side of 70 and beltway is where the football and baseball stadiums are sharing a lot. On the Kansas side of 70 and the beltways is the nascar racetrack, the MLS soccer stadium and a major outdoor amphitheater. A large shopping mall is near all these. Overland Park, is is where the corporate headquarters of sprint and Cerner health are systems were HQ. There are other tech jobs innthus area as well as the Kansas university medical school/ hospital are located near here. like buffalo, K.c metro area has a racial divide in the population. In buffalo generally west of Main Street is a clear racial divide other than a few pockets. in KC the racial divide is a line right around the state boundary just east in Missouri that gives thru much of the Missouri side including the stadium area. the likeky plan woukd be to put this stadium in the high income/ corporate HQ area of Overland Park area near where I-35 thst diagonally crises KC hits the beltway. This area is 20 miles away from Kansas university in Lawrence. the north side of KC is where the airport is located. Fir comparison purposes it’s equivalent of buffalo to the Niagara falls falls airport/ guard base is to buffalo. KC arena is in downtown KC is in Missouri that gives pretty unused since there is no nhl/ nba team there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K-9 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, msw2112 said: Not really relevant to this discussion, but I once went skiing in Lake Tahoe and had one leg in Nevada and the other in Caifornia as I straddled the state line. That was at the top of the mountain. You can do the same at street level, but the Nevada leg would be inside of a casino and the California leg would be out in the street, so it might get run over by a car. Arrowhead is in outlying area (from downtown KC) bounded by interstates and it directly adjacent to the KC Royals stadium. Not certain, but they may share some parking lots. So, yes, a new stadium could be in another state and yet still be more of a "downtown" stadium than it currently is. That’s nothing. I went to the Four Corners Monument and had my hands and feet in four separate states at once. Edited March 30, 2022 by K-9 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 They need a rebrand period The whole Chiefs thing, the drum, the chanting...cringe af 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 7 hours ago, GoBills808 said: They need a rebrand period The whole Chiefs thing, the drum, the chanting...cringe af I could live without ever seeing that stupid tomahawk chop thing they do ever again...... 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 14 hours ago, WotAGuy said: This brings up a question - why the hell are there two Kansas Citys? Makes no sense. Why isn’t the town on the Mizzou side called Missouri City? Because we already stole it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missouri_City,_Texas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nucci Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 But then they can't claim to be the only team in the state....kinda like Bills fans obsession about being only NYS team Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 The networks will continue to use stock shots of bbq being prepared for the commercial lead ins. Similar to the chicken wing prep shots in Buffalo and long shot of Niagara Falls, which were filmed in 2006. 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 14 hours ago, Arkady Renko said: I am sure most Giants and Jets fans in New York City weren't thrilled about their teams playing in New Jersey either. Jets fans hated it. Here is a look back at the final game at Shea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 15 hours ago, Warcodered said: If it's still in the Kansas City area then this would be such a dumb thing to get mad about. I, unfortunately, live in the KC area right now. Most of the fans I've talked to don't care very much. There is some lingering affection for Arrowhead. But the biggest concern about a change in location is about commute times, not state address per se. For most fans I think, if the new location would be closer to their home, they'd like it. Kansas City, MO, has a population of roughly 500,000 compared to KCK's population of 150,000. So the Missouri version of Kansas City is much bigger and includes most of the tall buildings, the financial district, the museums, and so on. But the KC metro area is more evenly divided between the two states. For example, Johnson County in Kansas is part of metro KC and has a population of 600,000. About 40% of the people in metro KC live in KS while 60% live in MO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
\GoBillsInDallas/ Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 27 minutes ago, hondo in seattle said: But the KC metro area is more evenly divided between the two states. For example, Johnson County in Kansas is part of metro KC and has a population of 600,000. About 40% of the people in metro KC live in KS while 60% live in MO. You said "Johnson" 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhoTom Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Just use a Sharpie to make both cities part of Missouri. 1 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCbillsfan Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 16 hours ago, MJS said: There aren't two. It's the same city, but since it is on the border, the city has portions on both sides. I lived there for 7 years back in the 90s. Specifically Overland Park KS which is like Orchard Park in relation to Buffalo. They are two different cities with different state governments etc. Kansas City KS is a dying city and in a lot of ways undesirable. Violent crime, high unemployment etc. Kansas City Missouri is in much better shape economically. They have the Plaza which is a nice area for shopping, restaurants, and bars. They have also a nice art museum. There is a big difference between the 2 cities despite having the same name. Edited March 30, 2022 by DCbillsfan 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T master Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 17 hours ago, WotAGuy said: This brings up a question - why the hell are there two Kansas Citys? Makes no sense. Why isn’t the town on the Mizzou side called Missouri City? There are other cities that have the same situation Bristol Tn is cut in 2 by the state line part in Tn the other in Va. Maybe when the cities first were laid out they were in one state but as they grew they went over the line into the other state . Who knows but i would hate to see the Chief's move just the same as i would have the Bills a little different but still the revenue would go to a different state than where they are now so that would be something to argue about . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 17 hours ago, WotAGuy said: This brings up a question - why the hell are there two Kansas Citys? Makes no sense. Why isn’t the town on the Mizzou side called Missouri City? Wouldn't it be more amusing if there was a Missouri City in Kansas to balance it out? Shove the Chiefs over there instead. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALF Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2010 The Chiefs completed a $375 million renovation on the stadium in 2010. They've also done various smaller projects in the past few years. Opened: August 12, 1972 They are looking at the Bills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 stadium cost have gotten dumb... Check out this list: https://www.stadiumsofprofootball.com/comparisons/ Lincoln Financial Field cost $518 million. Arizona's crazy stadium with the roll out field cost $455 million. An open air stadium in the Buffalo market costs 1.4 BILLION? In 10 years a stadium will be 2+ billion at a minimum. Team costs will be 5-6 billion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chandler#81 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 The Kansas Chiefs? That’s better than the San Antonio Bills! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 19 hours ago, Just Jack said: Just words at the moment... Chiefs Fans Are Furious About The Stadium Speculation Always thought it should be in Kansas but honestly dont care. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethan in Cleveland Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 While it may not matter to people viewing the games. Wouldn't it make a big deal in terms of tax revenue? One would think state sales tax would flow to the respective state based on location. 52 minutes ago, BUFFALOBART said: I used to walk over the Peace Bridge, to buy beer in Ft. Erie. "What's your purpose of coming to Canada"??? "I'm buying the best beer in the world". The Customs guy would smile, and wave me through. On the American side, Customs would laugh at the skinny kid, with a backpack full of beer, and waive the 75¢ duty.. I walked the bridge in Niagara Falls all the time. I wasn't even aware you could walk on the Peace Bridge. FYI my grandfather was a crane operator and helped build the Peace Bridge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 19 hours ago, loyal2dagame said: Build a chiefs stadium right on the state line. Half in Missouri, half in Kansas. Done. Hmmm, for a bunch of potential locations, "A River Runs Through It" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hondo in seattle Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 4 hours ago, DCbillsfan said: I lived there for 7 years back in the 90s. Specifically Overland Park KS which is like Orchard Park in relation to Buffalo. They are two different cities with different state governments etc. Kansas City KS is a dying city and in a lot of ways undesirable. Violent crime, high unemployment etc. Kansas City Missouri is in much better shape economically. They have the Plaza which is a nice area for shopping, restaurants, and bars. They have also a nice art museum. There is a big difference between the 2 cities despite having the same name. Agreed - big difference between the two KCs. Overland Park is a nice place - as far as KC Metro goes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CookieG Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 3 hours ago, ALF said: 2010 The Chiefs completed a $375 million renovation on the stadium in 2010. They've also done various smaller projects in the past few years. Opened: August 12, 1972 They are looking at the Bills And the Kansas angle came up at the time. It probably is what led to the renovations. The Chiefs' lease for Arrowhead had a provision that Arrowhead would be a state of the art facility. By 2010, it wasn't and needed work. The KC Metro Sports Authority, or whatever it is called...was dragging its feet and/or balking on renovations. Wyandotte County, Kansas and I think Johnson County, Kansas got involved and offered to build a new stadium on the Kansas side. I think it was going to be by the NASCAR track, about 10 miles West of KCMO. That is all it took. The funding for upgrades was done in the fall. It wouldn't surprise me if these comments aren't being used the same way...as some type of bargaining chip. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greatdane21 Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 Them sod busters in mizzou have had the team long enough ,it’s time for Kansas to take over! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 7 hours ago, Greg S said: Jets fans hated it. Here is a look back at the final game at Shea. Somehow i dont think bills fans or fans in general in this era are going to rip up the stadium. I suspect parts will be sold like the Aud. Edited March 30, 2022 by Buffalo Barbarian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg S Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Buffalo Barbarian said: Somehow i dont think bills fans or fans in general in this area are going to rip up the stadium. I suspect parts will be sold like the Aud. The only difference is the Bills aren't moving. Isn't the new stadium going to be right across the street from the current one. With the Jets going from Queens, NY to NJ was a pretty big move. Most of the fanbase back then came from NYC-LI. Even today some fans wish they would move back to NY (not happening) and its been 38 years since they left. Edited March 30, 2022 by Greg S 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkady Renko Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Greg S said: The only difference is the Bills aren't moving. Isn't the new stadium going to be right across the street from the current one. With the Jets going from Queens, NY to NJ was a pretty big move. Most of the fanbase back then came from NYC-LI. Even today some fans wish they would move back to NY (not happening) and its been 38 years since they left. They almost built a new stadium for the Jets in Manhattan as part of the Bloomberg NYC Olympics bid IIRC. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chongli Posted March 30, 2022 Share Posted March 30, 2022 (edited) On 3/29/2022 at 3:45 PM, Augie said: The “Toronto Bills” would make about as much sense as the Utah Jazz. Sure, that made sense in New Orleans, but Salt Lake City is one of the last places I would ever think of when jazz comes up. If the Miami Hurricanes moved to Minneapolis, or the Phoenix Suns moved to Buffalo……. Did nobody think to come up with a new name? 🤷♂️ On 3/29/2022 at 3:50 PM, Motorin' said: Or the Minneapolis Lakers moving to LA? Or the Philadelphia Warrions moving to Oakland (Golden State Warriors). (Warriors is historically connected to a Delaware Indian tribe, near Philadelphia.) Or the Atlanta Flames moving to Calgary. Or the Charlotte Hornets moving to New Orleans and keeping their name (before becoming the Pelicans). (Charlotte was referred to a "hornet's nest of rebellion" by a British general.) Probably a lot more examples too. Edited March 30, 2022 by chongli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigAl2526 Posted March 31, 2022 Share Posted March 31, 2022 That's mainly an issue for governments. A fair amount of tax revenue is probably at stake. Who gets it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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