FLFan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 4 hours ago, IronMaidenBills said: Scary good team now. Wow Here we go. The first of the annual” the Browns are a juggernaut” posts. The Browns are the Browns, with or without Watson. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 46 minutes ago, bobobonators said: Due to my job im well aware of how easy it is to indict someone. It doesnt take much at all. Not to get political, but not being able to indict Watson in TEXAS of all places, on any of the charges, leads me to believe the allegations were quite overblown if not downright false. If we can move past the dog killer Vick we can get past Watson saying “hey wanna see this rocket?” A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Wiz Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 minute ago, FLFan said: Here we go. The first of the annual” the Browns are a juggernaut” posts. The Browns are the Browns, with or without Watson. Honestly got worse with him. Hated by fans, no draft picks and no cap left to help him. The fans that are ok with him will turn sour quickly with what he has to work with. 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Hindsight Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 42 minutes ago, ColoradoBills said: He'd be sculking around and known as "The Phantom of the First Energy". The curse of Baker Mayfield 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloRebound Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: I'm not sure what the MPH sweepstakes tell us, but for comparison, do you know what were Mac Jones and Burrows' numbers? Or Herbert? When I watch (say) Mac Jones throw, I'm like "wow, that ball's taking its time to get there". I don't see that with Watson, or at least I didn't last time I saw him play. https://www.ourlads.com/story/default/Quarterback-Ball-Velocity-at-NFL-Combine-2008-2017/10243/dh/ only through 2020 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breakout Squad Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 hours ago, Virgil said: In fairness, no one has enough information to know what he actually did or if he’s guilty. C’mon man. They knew he was guilty but there wasn’t enough to convict. 22 women all lied? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 10 minutes ago, billsintaiwan said: A grand jury would indict a ham sandwich Not quite. A grand jury can be persuaded to indict a ham sandwich *if the district attorney wants them to* If the district attorney wants no part, Welp Then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 I don't know who in the NFC is getting Baker - they sure as heck aren't trading him to the Colts - which would make that team instantly the favorite in the AFC South. Unlike the Texans who clearly don't expect to be good for 3 plus years didn't care but the Browns will. GM Watson is going to try to trade Baker for DK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Big Blitz said: I don't know who in the NFC is getting Baker - they sure as heck aren't trading him to the Colts - which would make that team instantly the favorite in the AFC South. Unlike the Texans who clearly don't expect to be good for 3 plus years didn't care but the Browns will. GM Watson is going to try to trade Baker for DK. I'm hoping for a Saints/Brees - Chargers/Rivers situation. Edited March 19, 2022 by Warcodered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Blitz said: I don't know who in the NFC is getting Baker - they sure as heck aren't trading him to the Colts - which would make that team instantly the favorite in the AFC South. Unlike the Texans who clearly don't expect to be good for 3 plus years didn't care but the Browns will. GM Watson is going to try to trade Baker for DK. Do you really think Pete Carroll is up for another tempermental Shrimp at QB right now? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsintaiwan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 minute ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Not quite. A grand jury can be persuaded to indict a ham sandwich *if the district attorney wants them to* If the district attorney wants no part, Welp Then. Yes, ha. Still have my license, but haven't practiced in years. As I recall, the state has no duty to present exculpatory evidence. All depends on that DA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirAndrew Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 3 hours ago, Sestak4ever said: I don't believe Stefanski is a very good coach, even though the media builds him up. His game management is poor. I don't think this works out well for Cleveland. They are not getting much for Mayfield. Time will tell. The media loves to overhype every skinny jean wearing millennial head coach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Do you really think Pete Carroll is up for another tempermental Shrimp at QB right now? Washington makes the most sense to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ganesh Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 24 minutes ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: Baker has 3 strikes against him: 1) he's coming off a down year and had off-season surgery 2) he's only signed for 1 year 3) he's got a fully guaranteed cash contract for that 1 year 1) and 2) make him less valuable and 3) makes him harder to fit in a team's cap. IIf a team is going to give up a 1st or 2nd round pick to get him, they will also want him to sign a team friendly 2-3 year extension, I am sure teams like the Colts will figure out a way. I am surprised that the Texans didn't swap for Baker, He is much better than what they have, Just now, Big Blitz said: Washington makes the most sense to me They just traded for Wentz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 4 minutes ago, billsintaiwan said: Yes, ha. Still have my license, but haven't practiced in years. As I recall, the state has no duty to present exculpatory evidence. All depends on that DA. Yeah, that's kind of the theme of a couple of cases we've had locally. If the DA wants the case to go to trial, the exculpatory evidence never makes it to the Grand Jury. If he doesn't want the case to go to trial, the Grand Jury gets every iota. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niagara Bill Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Hapless Bills Fan said: That's....completely hysterical It's a truism that if you've got a true Franchise QB, you can win. Deshaun Watson is, in fact, that level of talent IMHO. So I guess the Browns will be investigating whether it's really true or not. A true franchise QB does not get himself in the position he has been in. He played well, but did not win anything. We shall see if he becomes a franchise QB. My money would be on the downside, especially with Cleveland. I see an overhyped guy with athletic ability, who failed to work and study hard enough to elevate his team before he was unmasked. IMHO 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dopey Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 32 minutes ago, Freddie's Dead said: Genius. Can't take credit.,😃 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Blitz Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 14 minutes ago, ganesh said: They just traded for Wentz Like I said.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 My guess is this greatly complicated negotiations in Baltimore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Big Blitz said: Awful people attract awful people Yeah. This was so weird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 39 minutes ago, The Wiz said: Honestly got worse with him. Hated by fans, no draft picks and no cap left to help him. The fans that are ok with him will turn sour quickly with what he has to work with. Just saw that at least the first year, Watson will only cist $10m against the cap, actually saving $8.5m vs Mayfield this year, so they should still have money for some more help. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Real McClappy Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 minute ago, cle23 said: Just saw that at least the first year, Watson will only cist $10m against the cap, actually saving $8.5m vs Mayfield this year, so they should still have money for some more help. Baker is still there though. How comical will it be if nobody makes an offer for Mayfield and he is stuck with the team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cle23 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Just now, Real McNasty said: Baker is still there though. How comical will it be if nobody makes an offer for Mayfield and he is stuck with the team? Too many QB needy teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy1 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 On social media, I’ve seen several Browns fans looking for another team. Many are looking down Lake Erie at the Bills. This move is a real hard sell to be the “face if the franchise”. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoHuddleKelly12 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Cleveland front office busy congratulating themselves for saving a buck by drafting this contract without an attorney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 he really nailed this one. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Behindenemylines Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, gordong said: 3 first round picks, a 3rd round pick and a 4th round pick. Cleveland gets Watson and a 5th round pick... WOW. IDIOTS ESPN The Browns and Texans are still finalizing the trade compensation, but the Texans are expected to receive three first-round picks, a third-round pick and a fourth-round pick while sending a fifth-round pick back to Cleveland along with Watson, league sources told ESPN. The Browns are also set to give Watson a new five-year, $230 million contract, sources told Schefter. He would receive $184 million over the first four years of his new contract -- a $48 million raise over what he was scheduled to make under his current contract. And knowing the Texans they use those three firsts on a punter, long snapper, and kick returner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakingfane Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 18 minutes ago, cle23 said: Just saw that at least the first year, Watson will only cist $10m against the cap, actually saving $8.5m vs Mayfield this year, so they should still have money for some more help. Wow if that's the first year, Cleveland is looking at no first round picks AND cap hell in a few years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakingfane Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Carmel Corn said: Well, since Progressive may ditch it's Baker at home campaign, maybe the stadium can reinvent itself as Deshaun's Massage Envy home ads. Or they'll try to film an at home with Deshaun ad for Progressive but as the camera approaches the stadium its all btch slappin and ripped shirts running away screaming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigduke6 Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Watson better come out on fire, be a choir boy, or the Browns fanbase will riot and send that FO packing. should be an interesting show. kinda feel bad for Browns fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 (edited) The Browns-Steelers playoff game is on NFL network and I just realized, Stefanski hasn't won a playoff game with the Browns yet, but Baker has. Edited March 19, 2022 by Warcodered Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDingus Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 5 hours ago, Big Blitz said: One "great" year - chasing garbage yards every game. They went 3-13 Tbf he was amazing even in the 3-13 year, but the incompetent organization kept steadily dismantling all this help & relevant teammates... 70% completion rating with 8.5 yards per completion is insane, and every other QBs in history who pulled it off won the SB that year. Watson went 3-13. That speaks volumes to how bad that team was. So unfortunately, it looks like the AFC is stuck with another great QB. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 And yet again, things go Brady's way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loyal2dagame Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Pathetic that a guy with 22 claims of sexual assaul/abuse gets a 43 million dollar raise. Burn it down..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicken Boo Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Leading up to today, more than a few posters were hoping Watson got traded away from the AFC to an NFC team. Now that the Browns have him, it's an awful trade and Watson is a noodle-armed bum. Gotta love NFL fans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DCOrange Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 59 minutes ago, Real McNasty said: Baker is still there though. How comical will it be if nobody makes an offer for Mayfield and he is stuck with the team? Teams will trade for him. The only question is if Cleveland can get a 1st for him or have to settle for a day 2 pick instead. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldmanfan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 2 hours ago, bobobonators said: Due to my job im well aware of how easy it is to indict someone. It doesnt take much at all. Not to get political, but not being able to indict Watson in TEXAS of all places, on any of the charges, leads me to believe the allegations were quite overblown if not downright false. If we can move past the dog killer Vick we can get past Watson saying “hey wanna see this rocket?” Some didn’t get over Vick either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 1 hour ago, Real McNasty said: Baker is still there though. How comical will it be if nobody makes an offer for Mayfield and he is stuck with the team? TBH, I'm not sure the trade for Watson and his new contract can go through if the Browns don't ship Mayfield out Maybe it's fairer to say other contracts. Spotrac has Watson "pencilled in" but there are several players signed whose contract details aren't "in" yet and Cleveland only has $2.6M of cap showing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wjag Posted March 19, 2022 Share Posted March 19, 2022 Great talent. Great douchebag. Great google-moogly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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