BrooklynBills Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 Akiem Hicks has the market value and can probably be signed for less gtd $$. I think this is just Phillips pricing himself out of what the Bills want to spend for a 1T, 2 down DT. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 You get the sense that even if the Bills want to keep guys like Harrison, Wallace, etc they know that there will be some ridiculous deals thrown around in FA especially with the salary cap figure going upwards again. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuco Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 4 hours ago, No_Matter_What said: If Bills want to do that basic RFA stuff with Bates, when is the deadline for it? Pretty sure the deadline for the RFA tender is before the start of the new league year - next Tuesday. Then the deadline for the player to get and present an offer sheet from another team is usually around a week before the draft. April 22ish I think it is this year. Worth mentioning, once the RFA tender is applied the amount counts against our cap right away. So for example, we are already something like $3.5 mil over the cap. If they put a tender out there on Bates for whatever amount, say $4 mil, the $4 mil instantly figures into our top 51 cap figure and raises the already over $3.5 mil by that much more. The Bills need to start making cap moves soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FilthyBeast Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 1 minute ago, Tuco said: Pretty sure the deadline for the RFA tender is before the start of the new league year - next Tuesday. Then the deadline for the player to get and present an offer sheet from another team is usually around a week before the draft. April 22ish I think it is this year. Worth mentioning, once the RFA tender is applied the amount counts against our cap right away. So for example, we are already something like $3.5 mil over the cap. If they put a tender out there on Bates for whatever amount, say $4 mil, the $4 mil instantly figures into our top 51 cap figure and raises the already over $3.5 mil by that much more. The Bills need to start making cap moves soon. This...and it's a little concerning that even some of the minor expected moves like dumping Feliciano hasn't happened yet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarleyNY Posted March 8, 2022 Share Posted March 8, 2022 10 minutes ago, FilthyBeast said: This...and it's a little concerning that even some of the minor expected moves like dumping Feliciano hasn't happened yet We will see stuff happen around the league now. The biggest domino (Rodgers) fell. Minutes later the second biggest (Wilson) followed suit. Plus it’s getting to be crunch time anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bills Fan In Pittsford Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Tuco said: Pretty sure the deadline for the RFA tender is before the start of the new league year - next Tuesday. Then the deadline for the player to get and present an offer sheet from another team is usually around a week before the draft. April 22ish I think it is this year. Worth mentioning, once the RFA tender is applied the amount counts against our cap right away. So for example, we are already something like $3.5 mil over the cap. If they put a tender out there on Bates for whatever amount, say $4 mil, the $4 mil instantly figures into our top 51 cap figure and raises the already over $3.5 mil by that much more. The Bills need to start making cap moves soon. Good Call 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Barbarian Posted March 9, 2022 Share Posted March 9, 2022 7 hours ago, BrooklynBills said: Akiem Hicks has the market value and can probably be signed for less gtd $$. I think this is just Phillips pricing himself out of what the Bills want to spend for a 1T, 2 down DT. I'd take Hicks in a heartbeat !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman3 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 I hate to say I told you so, but....🙂 8 1 1 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rico Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 minute ago, wiseman3 said: I hate to say I told you so, but....🙂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: I hate to say I told you so, but....🙂 Hey I vouched for you! It never seemed that unbelievable to me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheyCallMeAndy Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: I hate to say I told you so, but....🙂 I will give props where it’s due! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 5 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: I hate to say I told you so, but....🙂 Did anyone doubt he might not be back? That was a forgone possibility to most I think. That you actually met Phillips BEST FRIEND and he shared intimate details of his intentions is what I doubted. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giuseppe Tognarelli Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 8 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: I hate to say I told you so, but....🙂 You got lucky. You had a 50/50 shot at being right. 1 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papazoid Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: I hate to say I told you so, but....🙂 i wasnt even in this thread.....but after reading all those naysayers.....some apologies are forth coming..... dont take it personally....most of these type of predictions dont pan out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strive_for_five_guy Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 10 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: I hate to say I told you so, but....🙂 What’s even funnier is when people still aren’t willing to believe your story. Is there evidence that you are known to make this stuff up for attention? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrPJax Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/5/2022 at 10:44 PM, wiseman3 said: Met Harrison's best friend out in Buffalo tonight...showed texts to prove that he will not be coming back in free agency. I don't expect anyone to really believe this, but you'll just have to believe me haha. He will not be a Bill next year You are truly wise, man, well done! Sad to see , but you nailed it with your insider connection. Tough loss of a very classy , great guy who was all you could want as a role model for Bills players. Will miss him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOUSE Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 This rumor was exaggerated Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiseman3 Posted March 15, 2022 Author Share Posted March 15, 2022 4 minutes ago, strive_for_five_guy said: What’s even funnier is when people still aren’t willing to believe your story. Is there evidence that you are known to make this stuff up for attention? Haha no, I really don't post here besides game reactions and defending JA17. Oh well. I think Harrison needs to reevaluate what friends he shares info with. Alcohol is a hell of a drug! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 19 minutes ago, wiseman3 said: I hate to say I told you so, but....🙂 Don't like you're happy to say it You deserve your receipts, Enjoy them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Augie Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 minutes ago, papazoid said: i wasnt even in this thread.....but after reading all those naysayers.....some apologies are forth coming..... dont take it personally....most of these type of predictions dont pan out Not at all. He said it was a certainty, then he said it was a possibility. It was never a certainty, but it was always a possibility. That is true with every FA. We all knew it was possible. The process has to play out, then we know. I wish him well, especially against AFC teams! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 You can always tell which posters on the board never leave their house or keyboard when these type of threads pop up....it's the guys who just can't fathom these guys are real people who have real lives, real friends, and people in the real world socialize. I've had a few run ins with players or friends of players over the years(it's really not that uncommon for those of us who are local to WNY) and things don't always get kept as close to the vest as you would think. 2 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not at the table Karlos Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/6/2022 at 12:54 AM, Not at the table Karlos said: Well this aged well 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KDIGGZ Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 Props to Wiseman. It's not that big of a town, people talk, not that hard to believe. Buffalo (especially OP/Hamburg/Aurora) is unique in that it is small and the players live among us. Josh Allen's new house is on my road. Tre White used to live in the same development as my cousin. I hear things and don't post them because I'd rather not get my head bitten off if for some reason it doesn't happen. People need to be a little more accepting. Just say ok thanks for the info, let's see if it happens, and then go on with your day. We might be missing out on some good info if people are scared to post 4 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 20 minutes ago, Giuseppe Tognarelli said: You got lucky. You had a 50/50 shot at being right. Actually I think he had a better than that probability, regardless of whether or not the story was true But I don't mean to cast shade, OP was right about Phillips and deserves his LAMP 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed_Formerly_of_Roch Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 I'm guessing Bills made him an offer, he went out to see what he could get and was much higher than what Bills were offering so he took it. If it were close to Bills offer, maybe he'd have resigned. Likely too he assumed he'd get much more, hence in his mind he wasn't coming back. And apparently he was right about his value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said: Hey I vouched for you! It never seemed that unbelievable to me I vouched for him too given I met Levi Wallace’s college best friends at the home opener sitting next to them and still keep in touch on IG. Why people here always find it so hard to believe is always puzzling to me. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ndirish1978 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, wiseman3 said: I hate to say I told you so, but....🙂 I'll eat crow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
longtimebillsfan Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 On 3/5/2022 at 7:44 PM, wiseman3 said: Met Harrison's best friend out in Buffalo tonight...showed texts to prove that he will not be coming back in free agency. I don't expect anyone to really believe this, but you'll just have to believe me haha. He will not be a Bill next year You are never to be doubted again.😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceVilanch Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 1 hour ago, BillsPride12 said: things don't always get kept as close to the vest as you would think. I have a family member who is incredibly high up at Nike, and the amount of stuff agents/league reps tell him is insane, most of it ends up being true. Alcohol is usually involved. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 23 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I vouched for him too given I met Levi Wallace’s college best friends at the home opener sitting next to them and still keep in touch on IG. Why people here always find it so hard to believe is always puzzling to me. When you first met Levi's BEST FRIEND did he reveal private information to a total stranger? Just wondering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RocCityRoller Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 CIAO... Good luck Harry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCBills Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 (edited) Solid/Good player when healthy. GREAT person. Fwiw.. i’m surprised he got a contract like this. Edited March 15, 2022 by SCBills Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Einstein Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 55 minutes ago, The Dean said: When you first met Levi's BEST FRIEND did he reveal private information to a total stranger? Just wondering. I wouldn’t doubt it. People like to feel important. What quicker way to do that than to show a fan of your best friends team, secret stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillsPride12 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 7 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: I have a family member who is incredibly high up at Nike, and the amount of stuff agents/league reps tell him is insane, most of it ends up being true. Alcohol is usually involved. I believe it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 9 hours ago, The Dean said: When you first met Levi's BEST FRIEND did he reveal private information to a total stranger? Just wondering. I mean there were 4 of them, and yes, they told us a lot about Levi. But they have since messaged with me on IG about how much Levi loves Buffalo, the mafia, the team, etc and his preference would be to stay in Buffalo. On another note…I have a brand new product coming out this summer that a few close friends know about who also know it’s hush hush and top secret. Yet one of these fools was telling everybody at the bar about it Saturday because he thinks it’s so cool and gonna be huge. And he’s one of my groomsman in my wedding. And trust me, that info is wayyyy more sensitive and secret than a mediocre nfl players FA plans. So yeah, it happens. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 6 minutes ago, Alphadawg7 said: I mean there were 4 of them, and yes, they told us a lot about Levi. But they have since messaged with me on IG about how much Levi loves Buffalo, the mafia, the team, etc and his preference would be to stay in Buffalo. On another note…I have a brand new product coming out this summer that a few close friends know about who also know it’s hush hush and top secret. Yet one of these fools was telling everybody at the bar about it Saturday because he thinks it’s so cool and gonna be huge. And he’s one of my groomsman in my wedding. And trust me, that info is wayyyy more sensitive and secret than a mediocre nfl players FA plans. So yeah, it happens. Weed suppository? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphadawg7 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Weed suppository? Hahaha those already exist believe it or not. Right industry, but this is a brand new product and category that doesn’t exist. We had to engineer and build our own machines to make it. It’s gonna be huge. We have patents on the machines and designs, and full trademarks on both our branding and the new categorical terms too. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Dean Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 2 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I mean there were 4 of them, and yes, they told us a lot about Levi. But they have since messaged with me on IG about how much Levi loves Buffalo, the mafia, the team, etc and his preference would be to stay in Buffalo. On another note…I have a brand new product coming out this summer that a few close friends know about who also know it’s hush hush and top secret. Yet one of these fools was telling everybody at the bar about it Saturday because he thinks it’s so cool and gonna be huge. And he’s one of my groomsman in my wedding. And trust me, that info is wayyyy more sensitive and secret than a mediocre nfl players FA plans. So yeah, it happens. You know what else happens, I'd venture to say far more often? People tend to exaggerate the level of their "friendship" to famous people/athletes/musicians, when dealing with strangers to impress them. They also mis interpret remarks and put their own spin on things, on purpose or unintentionally. A remark like "I I won't be back in Buffalo next year" (because he sees the writing on the wall) can get mangled into "He wants to leave Buffalo" or "There is no way he will come back to the Bills", etc. Now neither of us know exactly Harrison's relationship to this person, what the exact nature of the conversations he has had with him or the exact nature of the texts that prove he is Harry's best friend. I would be highly skeptical in that situation. In my extensive bar experience (on both sides of the bar) I've found bulls#it exceeds actual information by quite a wide margin. And the information that seems to be real should be treated with caution and some suspect as to its exact nature. And maybe it's because my best friend has been my best friend for 60 years, and several others with 50+ years of friendship, but I can't imagine one of them telling a stranger my very personal business. And I can guarantee you, if I found out they had, they would not only not be my "best friend", but not sure they could be considered a friend at all. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridgewaycynic2013 Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 13 hours ago, BruceVilanch said: I have a family member who is incredibly high up at Nike, and the amount of stuff agents/league reps tell him is insane, most of it ends up being true. Alcohol is usually involved. Phil Knight always DID strike me as a 'stoner'. 🤨 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BringMetheHeadofLeonLett Posted March 15, 2022 Share Posted March 15, 2022 3 hours ago, Alphadawg7 said: I mean there were 4 of them, and yes, they told us a lot about Levi. But they have since messaged with me on IG about how much Levi loves Buffalo, the mafia, the team, etc and his preference would be to stay in Buffalo. On another note…I have a brand new product coming out this summer that a few close friends know about who also know it’s hush hush and top secret. Yet one of these fools was telling everybody at the bar about it Saturday because he thinks it’s so cool and gonna be huge. And he’s one of my groomsman in my wedding. And trust me, that info is wayyyy more sensitive and secret than a mediocre nfl players FA plans. So yeah, it happens. 21 minutes ago, The Dean said: You know what else happens, I'd venture to say far more often? People tend to exaggerate the level of their "friendship" to famous people/athletes/musicians, when dealing with strangers to impress them. They also mis interpret remarks and put their own spin on things, on purpose or unintentionally. A remark like "I I won't be back in Buffalo next year" (because he sees the writing on the wall) can get mangled into "He wants to leave Buffalo" or "There is no way he will come back to the Bills", etc. Now neither of us know exactly Harrison's relationship to this person, what the exact nature of the conversations he has had with him or the exact nature of the texts that prove he is Harry's best friend. I would be highly skeptical in that situation. In my extensive bar experience (on both sides of the bar) I've found bulls#it exceeds actual information by quite a wide margin. And the information that seems to be real should be treated with caution and some suspect as to its exact nature. And maybe it's because my best friend has been my best friend for 60 years, and several others with 50+ years of friendship, but I can't imagine one of them telling a stranger my very personal business. And I can guarantee you, if I found out they had, they would not only not be my "best friend", but not sure they could be considered a friend at all. Sounds like we got us some friend asses that need a kickin!! Let's get a posse together boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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