dpberr Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 My take: He got lazy after getting paid, and this team is not going to suffer a Dareus situation. Even with COVID, I'm sure these guys had to check in with the team on working out, weight, etc., and there was something there that did not sit well. Some guys only perform when they feel "disrespected" or with something to prove. Jordan Phillips comes to mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoBills808 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 6 hours ago, BADOLBILZ said: Spain is a lot like Jordan Phillips...........bite the hand that feeds you..........then treat the team that picks you up off the scrap heap like they are just the best! Cardinals can save $4.3M on the cap by cutting Phillips this offseason............seems like an obvious cut...........this board will blow up if he becomes available and I don't have a problem bringing him back but the Bills basically gotta' let he and his agent get a "no" from 30 other teams first before taking him on dirt cheap.........or risk being the @ssholes in the same fashion that Spain turned on them the first time they bench or inactivate him. Pass on Phillips for me Not a great fit stylistically for what they like the dline to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John from Riverside Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 8 hours ago, FilthyBeast said: I don't have a problem with Spain speaking on this subject because if anything it's another clear example of how this regime has grossly mismanaged their roster and been poor evaluators of talent. And between the Spain situation and trading Wyatt Teller you really have to wonder what they are looking at in terms of offensive line evaluation. Throw in poor FA signings like Feliciano and other bad draft picks like Cody Ford and it's puzzling to say the least. ...................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoSaint Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 5:12 PM, eball said: Yup, this is where I’m at. Don’t want any young punk QB winning another one in the AFC before Josh. I’d like to see the Rams bury them. Bobby Johnson SUCKED and SUCKS. The Kromer hire is going to be looked back upon as *the* move that made the Bills offense unstoppable. Kromer is very smart in both coaching up the OL but also run game design in general. was quite happy with the hire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Areola Grande Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 4:50 PM, AlCowlingsTaxiService said: I certainly would have preferred Spain at OG over the Mongo/Ford dumpster fire. It was worse than that, and why I don't blame Spain at all for his comments. We brought in Brian Winters and THAT is who he was benched for... Winters was hot garbage, so yeah... his beef is legit in my book. Thankfully (hopefully) that OL room operates with some more consistency now that the headache that was Bobby Johnson is gone and Cromer brings in a wealth of experience at that position group 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunnerBill Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 32 minutes ago, Areola Grande said: It was worse than that, and why I don't blame Spain at all for his comments. We brought in Brian Winters and THAT is who he was benched for... Winters was hot garbage, so yeah... his beef is legit in my book. Thankfully (hopefully) that OL room operates with some more consistency now that the headache that was Bobby Johnson is gone and Cromer brings in a wealth of experience at that position group Something went on with Spain behind the scenes. He went from a season where he didn't give up a single sack, to a nice extension, to benched after 1 bad game in week 2. No way was that short a leash performance based. There was something else at play. There had to be. I think we are up to 6 different men having started a game at guard for the Bills since we released him. None of them are better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JMF2006 Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 5:02 PM, Southern_Bills said: Seems he didn't want to compete. I get what he's saying but if just outplayed the other guy he wouldn't have had issues. Glad he got somewhere he's comfortable but I'm not sure I'd want a guy that runs from competition, especially on OL. I kind of figured he was pissed at getting benched back then. Compete for a job? what a waste of energy To get back on the field you need to get out of the buffet line and back to the gym Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 14 hours ago, GoBills808 said: Pass on Phillips for me Not a great fit stylistically for what they like the dline to do Yeah he's a 3T only..........he was worse than 2021 Vernon Butler at 1T..........and assuming they re-sign Zimmer(which might not be assuming too much) he wouldn't seem like a lock to get a lot of snaps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BADOLBILZ Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 4 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Something went on with Spain behind the scenes. He went from a season where he didn't give up a single sack, to a nice extension, to benched after 1 bad game in week 2. No way was that short a leash performance based. There was something else at play. There had to be. I think we are up to 6 different men having started a game at guard for the Bills since we released him. None of them are better. It seems like when guys fall out with McDermott some kind of practice habit issue is often at the core. Being a "process" guy he probably sees a player who is careless on the practice field as a threat to keeping the rest of the team focused. Hard to argue with the results as a whole.........though there are certainly times when they've clearly not used their best personnel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 5 hours ago, GunnerBill said: Something went on with Spain behind the scenes. He went from a season where he didn't give up a single sack, to a nice extension, to benched after 1 bad game in week 2. No way was that short a leash performance based. There was something else at play. There had to be. I think we are up to 6 different men having started a game at guard for the Bills since we released him. None of them are better. Yes...100%. No way one bad performance sees the bench. Ford, Feliciano and Winters had several bad games before they were sat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlCowlingsTaxiService Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 8 hours ago, Areola Grande said: It was worse than that, and why I don't blame Spain at all for his comments. We brought in Brian Winters and THAT is who he was benched for... Winters was hot garbage, so yeah... his beef is legit in my book. Thankfully (hopefully) that OL room operates with some more consistency now that the headache that was Bobby Johnson is gone and Cromer brings in a wealth of experience at that position group Brian Winters … how could I forget that paragon of great OG talent? 😂 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bermuda Triangle Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 4 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverboat Ritchie Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 In his defense, nobody was stopping Donald but that was first thing I texted after that play. He whiffed bad on that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
transient Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bermuda Triangle said: 22 sacks in 4 games. Set the record for sacks against in a playoff game AND a Super Bowl in the same post season. Wonder if he’ll be similarly perplexed when Cincinnati moves on from him as well. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madbillsfan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 5:13 PM, BuffaloBillyG said: Ford was one of the guys. I had no issue with them playing Ford as the did invest in him...had to try and get it to work out. It didn't. But that's not the issue. The other guy they brought in and played over Spain was Brian Winters who was awful. He was awful the years before with the Jets, too. Some players know who’s shitttier than them before coaches do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Not only did Spain miss on Donald, which is easy to do; the play before, 3rd and 2, he got beat as well. It was his man who made initial contact to stop the Bengals RB and then Donald came in to help clean it up. I was talking to my buddy who is a Bengals fan early in the day before the game and said Spain is the only Bengal player I don’t like after his comments. They made zero sense and then his performance showed why he got let go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billsfan1959 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, mjfbillsfan said: In his defense, nobody was stopping Donald but that was first thing I texted after that play. He whiffed bad on that one. Actually, I don't think it really much mattered who was on the Dline. The Bengals' Oline didn't stop anybody the entire year.... Edited February 14, 2022 by billsfan1959 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gobills404 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 He mad 1 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thenorthremembers Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 minute ago, gobills404 said: He mad Qs in his feelings again. Has the mind of a 13 year old boy. Played like one last night as well. Very glad the Bengals lost. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donuts and Doritos Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 If Spain had laid down like a speed bump he'd of obstructed Donald's path to the QB better than he did as a blocker. Terrible whiff at critical moment. & His reaction after... No accountability. Glad he's not a Bill. Doubt he'll be a Bengal for long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Bills comment on release of Spain: "See, that's why" 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlbillsfan1975 Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, gobills404 said: He mad This pretty much sums up why he isn’t on the Bills. He needs to focus on himself. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2o Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 26 minutes ago, gobills404 said: He mad Poor Quinton 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aussie Joe Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Quinton needs to step away from social media probably most of the time, but particularly an hour after you have just lost the SB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevewin Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 1 hour ago, gobills404 said: He mad Have to say the jordan-crying-bengal in the comments was pretty inspired 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 7 hours ago, Aussie Joe said: Quinton needs to step away from social media probably most of the time, but particularly an hour after you have just lost the SB I looked at the time and my jaw dropped. They just lost the Super Bowl 60 minutes ago and this is on his mind? Fighting on Twitter? He's definitely self absorbed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrDawkinstein Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Q still coming out of his stance and Donald is already by him. LOL 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) 8 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said: If Spain had laid down like a speed bump he'd of obstructed Donald's path to the QB better than he did as a blocker. Terrible whiff at critical moment. & His reaction after... No accountability. Glad he's not a Bill. Doubt he'll be a Bengal for long. The rain from Spain falls mainly on Joe Burrow. Edited February 14, 2022 by Special K 1 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Royale with Cheese Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Q still coming out of his stance and Donald is already by him. LOL "I approve!" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFunPolice Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 23 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Q still coming out of his stance and Donald is already by him. LOL Spain looks like he's blocking air! LOL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DabillsDaBillsDaBills Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, DrDawkinstein said: Q still coming out of his stance and Donald is already by him. LOL Example #6,587 of why a screengrab is not a good way to evaluate a play 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foreboding Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Example #6,587 of why a screengrab is not a good way to evaluate a play You're right, the video makes it look much, much worse. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Donuts and Doritos said: If Spain had laid down like a speed bump he'd of obstructed Donald's path to the QB better than he did as a blocker. Terrible whiff at critical moment. & His reaction after... No accountability. Glad he's not a Bill. Doubt he'll be a Bengal for long. Pretty much this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Process Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, DabillsDaBillsDaBills said: Example #6,587 of why a screengrab is not a good way to evaluate a play The video makes him look worse LOL 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Otreply Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Alright, we are up to eight pages, if we continue re-hashing at this pace we can reach a board goal, and surpass that TE thread from earlier this season… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 On 2/10/2022 at 11:45 AM, GunnerBill said: I just think relying on the final 5 games and standing pat would be a mistake. They have to be aggressive in improving the line this offseason IMO. They did play better down the stretch, no question. But I don't think it is a big enough sample size to say "okay we are good here." The line cost us wins in 2021. That can't happen again. I think Beane recognizes this. His comment on the OL during his end of season presser was that it was "something to build on" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloBillyG Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Spain and Simmons going at it in Twitter. In fairness Spain would have ended the convo sooner...but he doesn't know how to use the "block" button. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warcodered Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Spain and Simmons going at it in Twitter. In fairness Spain would have ended the convo sooner...but he doesn't know how to use the "block" button. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hapless Bills Fan Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 2 minutes ago, BuffaloBillyG said: Spain and Simmons going at it in Twitter. In fairness Spain would have ended the convo sooner...but he doesn't know how to use the "block" button. It shows enormous (Ha!) lack of self-awareness. Your team just lost the Superbowl, and part of the "L" was having your "Comeback Player of the Year" QB take 7 sacks on his reconstructed knee, and injure his knee to boot. This is NOT the right time to be chirping with someone on twitter and calling them "a B word on the field and off the field" Just log out. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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