AFCCG - Bengals @ Chiefs

[stevewin]

23 minutes ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

The result was perfect. I always root for the team that’s never won a Super Bowl. Mahomes looked terrible in the second half @Zerovoltz

Waiting for him to come in and lecture us on the majesty of Mahomes

[Green Lightning]

7 minutes ago, Solomon Grundy said:

He looked superhuman the 1st half

Rush 3 and flood the passing lanes. Like we should have done with 13 secs left. I just can't get over it yet. Dammit.

[Bruffalo]

2 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

Maybe its a knee jerk reaction, but what this game showed me is that we need a new defensive coordinator. The Bengals ADJUSTED within

the game. 

There's a big pattern of the Bills having defensive meltdowns and losing in big moments.  McD always kinds of handwaves it away with "execution", as if the scheme and playcalling is above criticism. 

 

I think you're right but I also think it's not going to happen. I would love to see a much more aggressive approach to defense because we know that the offense is capable of always putting up a lot of points.  The prevent "bend don't break" style is for teams that win by dominating clock.  It's not who we are and I wish we could adjust. 

[Real McClappy]

4 minutes ago, HappyDays said:

Ugh the more I think about it the more this result frustrates me. We let the Chiefs offense do whatever they wanted all game long. The freaking Bengals gave them more trouble.

My exact thoughts as well Hap.  We played scared conservative ball the entire game on D. Our 2 all pro safeties 10-15 yards off the Ball all day were non existent. 

 

Glad the Bengals won, it will make the SB much better for me overall. 

Edited January 31, 2022 by Real McNasty

[Miyagi-Do Karate]

8 minutes ago, Scott7975 said:

 

Im sorry?  Where did you see Bengals safeties playing 40 yards back and the Bengals coverage unit nowhere near Kelce and Hill?

i am referring to the bulk of the game. I agree that both the scheme

and execution was not right in the 13 seconds.  But the overall defensive scheme that the Bills ran was the same as the bengals did today. Bengals just executed better and Mahomes executed at a much poorer level. 

[Slack_in_MA]

13 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

About the same. I live in Cincinnati and it’s like buffalo, but with less snow, no lake and a lot more hilly.

And more tornadoes and the sun sets REALLY late because it’s on the very western edge of the Eastern time zone!

[Solomon Grundy]

12 minutes ago, thenorthremembers said:

I dont know why someone of you bother watching football, it clearly makes you miserable.   So far I've read:

 

• Bills are screwed because the Bengals have Joe Burrow and Cap Space
• The Bills defense is beyond repair is complete shambles. 
• Drafting players doesn't work.  Only spending a ton on free agents does.
• Bengals did this today with no high picks (Despite having the #1 overall draft pick at QB, the #5 overall pick at WR, and the #11 overall pick at Tackle)

Take a breath and come back to reality. 

So the Bills don't have a top rated QB, WR and T? Teams are similarly comprised

[bigduke6]

1 minute ago, Tulsabillsfanz said:

That near pick needs to be pointed out.  I heard Jimmy Johnson saying no one should blame Mahomes because the OT interception was a tipped pass. Johnson failed to mention his previous pass should have been a game ending pick 6! 

funny thing about that Pass Jimmy doesnt think is Pattys fault,   Patty still threw it into double coverage...

[Marvlevydraftdaygenius]

1 minute ago, Flucod said:

Really, was not great, But how about our offense at Jacksonville or Texans or Steelers or Indy or Patriots first time. We will any of those games and we host KC and win. There is blame to go around on everyone. One screw up does not decide a season.

Yeah patriots ran for over 2 hundred yards against us.

[Nextmanup]

I feel bad for Ickey Woods!  The dude looks like he weighs 450 lbs.

 

 

[PetermansRedemption]

Fire Frazier

[Ross Murdock]

2 minutes ago, Nextmanup said:

Just finished watching the game a little behind real time.

 

Good for the Bengals!  They marched in there and did what we couldn't do, even after losing the toss in OT.

 

Better DL play, better coaching/adjustments in 2nd half, and a semi-off game for Mahomes all contibuted to the win IMO.  Of course the turnovers but that's part of Mahomes' down game.

 

It turned into a really good game and I enjoyed it; all I was asking for.

 

I just hope the next one is as good, and the SB is too.

 

Also, for me, the Bills loss in KC is now easier to take.

It wasn't meant to be our year.

 

"it wasn't meant to be our year". That's all you got? Pretty lame. When will it be "Meant to be our year"? When we win? Why do you even watch the games if it's up to things like the stars being aligned, or having your lucky Bills mug in your hand. I guess the 4 Bills super bowl loses were just "Meant to be"? Bills lost last week because their coaching staff were like dears in the headlights when it mattered most. I guess maybe that was just "Meant to be" as well... Maybe you should just stick to bowling.    

[Rico]

Damn shame Miami got Tua instead of trading up for Burrow the year before.

 

Here's to Josh and Burrow getting the State Farm gig while Rat and Rodgers get demoted to Taco Bell and My Pillow.

[No_Matter_What]

33 minutes ago, Bad Things said:

You think their fans are calling for Andy Reid to be fired?

I'd like to know but I promised to myself I will never visit chiefsplanet again.

[Casey D]

Today also shows if the Bills had won last week, today would not have been an automatic W.  Bengals defense is not much, but it was good today for a 1/2 plus.  Whether it was their D or KC hitting a wall after last week's game, who knows for sure.

[Iiiiiiiiive Got a Feeeelin]

Cant really tell if it was Bengals pressure or what but Mahomes looked like hot trash ever since they missed scoring at the end of the first half.  This one is all on Pat and I love it.

[Billsforumsucks]

2 minutes ago, Marvlevydraftdaygenius said:

Yeah patriots ran for over 2 hundred yards against us.

And only scored 14 points, Daboll screwed us with not allowing Allen, the best player on the field throw the ball and when he did we almost won. I am very happy he is gone, promote Dorsey and let’s go.

Edited January 31, 2022 by Flucod

[buffalojedwardo]

20 minutes ago, FrenchConnection said:

Because it probably got buried up thread, I’ll say this again. This is the worst case scenario for the Bills. Cincinnati is going to the SB and have 50 million in cap space this off season. The Bills are screwed.

All the big spenders always win right? 

[atlbillsfan1975]

2 minutes ago, stevewin said:

Waiting for him to come in and lecture us on the majesty of Mahomes

He is a complete troll. I went into the Josh Allen draft reaction thread. @Zerovoltzwas on the first page laughing about the pick. 
Mahomes played like hot garbage in the second half and Reid went back to looking like the choke artist who lost in Philly all those years. 
 

[Heitz]

9 minutes ago, bobobonators said:

Maybe its a knee jerk reaction, but what this game showed me is that we need a new defensive coordinator. The Bengals ADJUSTED within

the game. 

Their D line certainly started getting home in the second half!  In the first, they had a few moments like ours, I was thinking "Not this slippery Mahomes stuff again...".  Is that scheme or effort?  Regardless it worked.  

 

 

[Boatdrinks]

Good for the Bengals. Definitely makes the Bills loss easier ( a little bit) to take. I still think the Bills would have bea the Bengals in OP because Josh is just better and his rushing / passing would be too much for them.  Can’t comment on their defense too much as I didn’t see any of the game except the final few minutes. All 22 will tell the story. Good news is maybe  there won’t be so much Mahomes GOAT talk now. Chiefs fans needed some misery. 

Edited January 31, 2022 by Boatdrinks

[HappyDays]

2 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

i am referring to the bulk of the game. I agree that both the scheme

and execution was not right in the 13 seconds.  But the overall defensive scheme that the Bills ran was the same as the bengals did today. Bengals just executed better and Mahomes executed at a much poorer level. 

 

Yeah scheme wasn't the problem last week until the final 13 seconds. The problem was no one on defense made an exceptional play. It's telling that former bust Eli Apple made more plays in this game than both of our CBs combined.

[SCBills]

Chiefs, in retrospect, played the seed gaming perfectly by dropping down to 4. 

[MasterStrategist]

5 minutes ago, Miyagi-Do Karate said:

i am referring to the bulk of the game. I agree that both the scheme

and execution was not right in the 13 seconds.  But the overall defensive scheme that the Bills ran was the same as the bengals did today. Bengals just executed better and Mahomes executed at a much poorer level. 

Disagree.  Cincy did run our strategy in the 1st half, then adjusted in the 2nd half.  Granted they got some breaks, dropped passes etc.  

 

But they mixed it up with blitzing LBs, and running 3 man pass rushes w/spy or delayed Blitzer.  They realized at halftime that their defensive strategy just wasn't going to cut it, and followed up by only giving up 3 points in the 2nd half and stopping Mahomes in OT.  

 

Way different coaching strategy, not just execution.

 

Will add that they completely shut down Tyreek in the 2nd half...by changing their coverages.  At no point, did we adjust like Cincy. instead we played scared to give up the big pass play.  

Edited January 31, 2022 by MasterStrategist

[goober]

1 minute ago, atlbillsfan1975 said:

He is a complete troll. I went into the Josh Allen draft reaction thread. @Zerovoltzwas on the first page laughing about the pick. 
Mahomes played like hot garbage in the second half and Reid went back to looking like the choke artist who lost in Philly all those years. 
 

Chiefs regress 2 straight years in playoffs.  Sugar high Patrick just didn’t get it done

[Billsforumsucks]

Hutchinson was the difference today, big motor and was in shape to pursue for 5 quarters. He gave 💯, did you see him on the sideline puking due to effort. We NEED that guy. We don’t have it, Klein is the closest but lacks a ton of speed.

[Bruffalo]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

McDs 8-9 man line rotation is also above criticism.

Yeah, I think it's a pretty silly concept too.  I've said it a lot, but I'm sick of seeing Mario "kind of got close but whiffed" Addison eat away snap counts and slow the development of our actual future at the position. 

 

I don't even think it's a talent problem why we don't see the D-Line manifest sacks, I think it's the coaching.

[Billsfanatic8989]

Bengals winning today doesn't ease the pain of last week. It actually makes it worse.

 

What you saw in the 2nd half today was a great defensive game plan.

 

Frazier has better players on D.

 

And yet...we are the ones getting roasted.

[CoudyBills]

47 minutes ago, Turk71 said:

The Bills played one of the 5 easiest schedules in the league this season. Their #1 defense played 15 of their games against a who's who of terrible qbs. Next year's schedule not nearly as easy. Their soft shell bend don't break d only works against inefficient qbs who can't sustain drives and makes no adjustments for qbs who can. They will have to improve.

Yessir.  They need a real pass rush and a serious coverage guy...probably a mlb too.

[CoudyBills]

1 minute ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Bengals winning today doesn't ease the pain of last week. It actually makes it worse.

 

What you saw in the 2nd half today was a great defensive game plan.

 

Frazier has better players on D.

 

And yet...we are the ones getting roasted.

Frazier doesn't have better players on defense outside of probably Poyer and Hyde.

[Jukester]

6 minutes ago, Bruffalo said:

There's a big pattern of the Bills having defensive meltdowns and losing in big moments.  McD always kinds of handwaves it away with "execution", as if the scheme and playcalling is above criticism. 

 

I think you're right but I also think it's not going to happen. I would love to see a much more aggressive approach to defense because we know that the offense is capable of always putting up a lot of points.  The prevent "bend don't break" style is for teams that win by dominating clock.  It's not who we are and I wish we could adjust. 

Yep, the Houston playoff game where we choked away a 16 point lead is another example

[PrimeTime101]

THE SB This year was Buffalo VS KC. .......... do not care who plays the SB now... nothing will be as good as Buf. V KC

 

 

[BillsFan692]

6 minutes ago, Flucod said:

And only scored 14 points, Daboll screwed us with not allowing Allen, the best player on the field throw the ball and when he did we almost won. I am very happy he is gone, promote Dorsey and let’s go.

he might take dorsey with him

[iccrewman112]

1 minute ago, Billsfanatic8989 said:

Bengals winning today doesn't ease the pain of last week. It actually makes it worse.

 

What you saw in the 2nd half today was a great defensive game plan.

 

Frazier has better players on D.

 

And yet...we are the ones getting roasted.

 

I am not sure if the bills have better players. Perhaps on the whole. But they have Hendrickson and Reader. Two positions the bills fans/gm’s want to upgrade.

[JerseyBills]

5 minutes ago, Flucod said:

Hutchinson was the difference today, big motor and was in shape to pursue for 5 quarters. He gave 💯, did you see him on the sideline puking due to effort. We NEED that guy. We don’t have it, Klein is the closest but lacks a ton of speed.

Look at my posts. I wanted him on this team so bad. Single handed difference maker. We have to get a difference maker on the edge in FA. We tried the draft and AJ, Groot and Boogie might be great but we need a proven guy in FA. 

Tre White doesn't have a fluke injury, we're SB bound so who really knows 

Edited January 31, 2022 by JerseyBills

[Bookie Man]

It all started with that last drive in the 1st half, where they came away with no points. Mahomes made a bad decision to throw it in front of the endzone and ran out of time. I feel like that mental blunder stuck with him. He just seemed off after that. They looked equally unstoppable in the 1st half today. After that play, everything seemed to change. 

[Steptide]

I know everyone feels different, but that game was closure for me for the pain of this last week. Ya, I'll always wish it was the bills playing today, but to see kc upset the way they were today was about the best gift I could've gotten after that terrible loss last week 

Edited January 31, 2022 by Steptide

[MasterStrategist]

Just now, ScottLaw said:

How you watch that game and think the scheme was the same as the Bills is laughable. 
 

 

Agree, Cincy has similar overall talent.  But their dline is certainly a tier above ours.

 

We were relcutant/hesitant to change our scheme, perhaps bc it worked earlier in the season when Mahomes was being more careless and not taking the check downs.  Def coaches need to take a long look in the mirror this offseason and decide what type of defense they want to have to compete for a super bowl.

[MPT]

Amazing what happens when you play defense instead of sitting back and hoping they don't score too many points.

[CoudyBills]

6 minutes ago, MasterStrategist said:

Disagree.  Cincy did run our strategy in the 1st half, then adjusted in the 2nd half.  Granted they got some breaks, dropped passes etc.  

 

But they mixed it up with blitzing LBs, and running 3 man pass rushes w/spy or delayed Blitzer.  They realized at halftime that their defensive strategy just wasn't going to cut it, and followed up by only giving up 3 points in the 2nd half and stopping Mahomes in OT.  

 

Way different coaching strategy, not just execution.

 

Will add that they completely shut down Tyreek in the 2nd half...by changing their coverages.  At no point, did we adjust like Cincy. instead we played scared to give up the big pass play.  

The Bills defensive strategy against the Chiefs is just give it to them.